MLB Playoffs 2010

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
LOL @ NL West being the toughest division in baseball. Rays stinking it up? They won 96 games last year and they’re still a good team even with the losses in free agency. If you want to compete in the AL East you HAVE TO win 95 games.

You talk a lot about pitching, but the Giants still have a shitty offence and they have done nothing to address it. I can see them doing damage in the playoffs but only if they make it, which I’m unsure if they will.

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The second-best team in the NL West last year took a major hit and you think the defending WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS, who have literally the entire team returning might not even make the playoffs? I laugh. I would say any division with the best team in baseball is a pretty tough division. And like I said earlier, there’s actually a good reason to think that the staff in general will be even better this year than it was last year. And that shitty offense knocked around Halladay, Hamels, Lee and Oswalt much more than the vaunted Rangers and Phillies offense could do against the Giants staff.

And of course I talk a lot about pitching. It’s what separates the good teams from the great teams and it always has. The great Yankees teams from the 90’s won with pitching, not offense. The Indians teams from back then had great offenses, decent pitching and look where it got them. The Rangers had a great offensive team and the great pitching of the Giants shoved it right up their ass to the tune of a 4-1 series win. Great pitching masks any other weaknesses, as the Giants proved beyond doubt last year. It doesn’t work the other way around, as the 2010 Yankees can fully attest to.

I don’t think the Rays will finish .500 this year. They lost too much and they don’t have enough coming in to replace them. Plus, what kind of mental drag do you think those losses will be, combined with the fact that the fans (who didn’t show up to begin with) are definitely not going to be showing up?[/quote]

Of course, no one is denying the Giants pitching prowess, but it’s very difficult to make the post season with a shitty offence. I know winning teams are built around pitching and pitching rules in the post season.

The fact is the Giants offence also got weaker when they lost a 20+ HR hitting Uribe and they have done little to replace him. Why is it such a stretch that the World Series Champions (who barely got into the playoffs the year they won) miss the playoffs next year? If they had lost one more game last season you guys wouldn’t be celebrating. This isn’t basketball 16 teams do not make the playoffs, margin of error is much smaller. Look I’m not saying they won’t make the playoffs, but I think it’s far from a lock and there’s a decent chance they won’t.

What are you expecting out of Cody Ross this season? He’s never had a good season before.

What are you expecting out of Pat Burrell? Good move to bring him back cheap but the guys skillset is seriously declining.

What are you expecting out of a 37 year old Miguel Tejada?

What are you expecting out Renteria if he returns? He didn’t put up good regular season numbers this year or 2009. And I’m talking about during the 72 games he played, not for 162 games.

This team has a lot of holes in the offensive side.

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Extremely difficult to make the postseason with shitty offenses? Tell that to every Dodgers team from the 60’s.[/quote]

Just noticed I missed this. Why are you bringing up baseball stats from a different era of baseball? Show me a team that in the last 20 years that has won a World Series with an offence that was below the league average aside for the 2010 Giants.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
LOL @ NL West being the toughest division in baseball. Rays stinking it up? They won 96 games last year and they’re still a good team even with the losses in free agency. If you want to compete in the AL East you HAVE TO win 95 games.

You talk a lot about pitching, but the Giants still have a shitty offence and they have done nothing to address it. I can see them doing damage in the playoffs but only if they make it, which I’m unsure if they will.

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The second-best team in the NL West last year took a major hit and you think the defending WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS, who have literally the entire team returning might not even make the playoffs? I laugh. I would say any division with the best team in baseball is a pretty tough division. And like I said earlier, there’s actually a good reason to think that the staff in general will be even better this year than it was last year. And that shitty offense knocked around Halladay, Hamels, Lee and Oswalt much more than the vaunted Rangers and Phillies offense could do against the Giants staff.

And of course I talk a lot about pitching. It’s what separates the good teams from the great teams and it always has. The great Yankees teams from the 90’s won with pitching, not offense. The Indians teams from back then had great offenses, decent pitching and look where it got them. The Rangers had a great offensive team and the great pitching of the Giants shoved it right up their ass to the tune of a 4-1 series win. Great pitching masks any other weaknesses, as the Giants proved beyond doubt last year. It doesn’t work the other way around, as the 2010 Yankees can fully attest to.

I don’t think the Rays will finish .500 this year. They lost too much and they don’t have enough coming in to replace them. Plus, what kind of mental drag do you think those losses will be, combined with the fact that the fans (who didn’t show up to begin with) are definitely not going to be showing up?[/quote]

Of course, no one is denying the Giants pitching prowess, but it’s very difficult to make the post season with a shitty offence. I know winning teams are built around pitching and pitching rules in the post season.

The fact is the Giants offence also got weaker when they lost a 20+ HR hitting Uribe and they have done little to replace him. Why is it such a stretch that the World Series Champions (who barely got into the playoffs the year they won) miss the playoffs next year? If they had lost one more game last season you guys wouldn’t be celebrating. This isn’t basketball 16 teams do not make the playoffs, margin of error is much smaller. Look I’m not saying they won’t make the playoffs, but I think it’s far from a lock and there’s a decent chance they won’t.

What are you expecting out of Cody Ross this season? He’s never had a good season before.

What are you expecting out of Pat Burrell? Good move to bring him back cheap but the guys skillset is seriously declining.

What are you expecting out of a 37 year old Miguel Tejada?

What are you expecting out Renteria if he returns? He didn’t put up good regular season numbers this year or 2009. And I’m talking about during the 72 games he played, not for 162 games.

This team has a lot of holes in the offensive side.

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Extremely difficult to make the postseason with shitty offenses? Tell that to every Dodgers team from the 60’s.[/quote]

Just noticed I missed this. Why are you bringing up baseball stats from a different era of baseball? Show me a team that in the last 20 years that has won a World Series with an offence that was below the league average aside for the 2010 Giants.[/quote]

It depends on what you would call “below average”, but I would start with the 2002 Angels. The 2001 D’Backs weren’t a great offensive team either. Neither were the 1991 Twins. Show me a team with below average pitching that won the World Series in the last 20 years.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
The funny part is I haven’t said they won’t make the playoffs, just it’s not guaranteed like you are claiming it is. [/quote]

I’m not guaranteeing anything other than the Giants’ staff will be better this year than it was last year, barring some catastrophic injury.

Look, we’re going around in circles here. You were wrong about the Giants last year and you clearly don’t have the same understanding of how the game is played that I do, so there is no reason for me to give your claims any special creedence. We’ll see what happens…

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
The funny part is I haven’t said they won’t make the playoffs, just it’s not guaranteed like you are claiming it is. [/quote]

I’m not guaranteeing anything other than the Giants’ staff will be better this year than it was last year, barring some catastrophic injury.

Look, we’re going around in circles here. You were wrong about the Giants last year and you clearly don’t have the same understanding of how the game is played that I do, so there is no reason for me to give your claims any special creedence. We’ll see what happens…[/quote]

Yeah, my prediction of the Giants in the postseason were wrong. But don’t act like you went 100% in your picks, if I recall correctly you picked the Twins over the Yankees. I’m surprised you missed that with your vast knowledge of the game. LOL

But once again, post season play has little to do with predicting how a team will play in the regular season.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
LOL @ NL West being the toughest division in baseball. Rays stinking it up? They won 96 games last year and they’re still a good team even with the losses in free agency. If you want to compete in the AL East you HAVE TO win 95 games.

You talk a lot about pitching, but the Giants still have a shitty offence and they have done nothing to address it. I can see them doing damage in the playoffs but only if they make it, which I’m unsure if they will.

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The second-best team in the NL West last year took a major hit and you think the defending WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS, who have literally the entire team returning might not even make the playoffs? I laugh. I would say any division with the best team in baseball is a pretty tough division. And like I said earlier, there’s actually a good reason to think that the staff in general will be even better this year than it was last year. And that shitty offense knocked around Halladay, Hamels, Lee and Oswalt much more than the vaunted Rangers and Phillies offense could do against the Giants staff.

And of course I talk a lot about pitching. It’s what separates the good teams from the great teams and it always has. The great Yankees teams from the 90’s won with pitching, not offense. The Indians teams from back then had great offenses, decent pitching and look where it got them. The Rangers had a great offensive team and the great pitching of the Giants shoved it right up their ass to the tune of a 4-1 series win. Great pitching masks any other weaknesses, as the Giants proved beyond doubt last year. It doesn’t work the other way around, as the 2010 Yankees can fully attest to.

I don’t think the Rays will finish .500 this year. They lost too much and they don’t have enough coming in to replace them. Plus, what kind of mental drag do you think those losses will be, combined with the fact that the fans (who didn’t show up to begin with) are definitely not going to be showing up?[/quote]

Of course, no one is denying the Giants pitching prowess, but it’s very difficult to make the post season with a shitty offence. I know winning teams are built around pitching and pitching rules in the post season.

The fact is the Giants offence also got weaker when they lost a 20+ HR hitting Uribe and they have done little to replace him. Why is it such a stretch that the World Series Champions (who barely got into the playoffs the year they won) miss the playoffs next year? If they had lost one more game last season you guys wouldn’t be celebrating. This isn’t basketball 16 teams do not make the playoffs, margin of error is much smaller. Look I’m not saying they won’t make the playoffs, but I think it’s far from a lock and there’s a decent chance they won’t.

What are you expecting out of Cody Ross this season? He’s never had a good season before.

What are you expecting out of Pat Burrell? Good move to bring him back cheap but the guys skillset is seriously declining.

What are you expecting out of a 37 year old Miguel Tejada?

What are you expecting out Renteria if he returns? He didn’t put up good regular season numbers this year or 2009. And I’m talking about during the 72 games he played, not for 162 games.

This team has a lot of holes in the offensive side.

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Extremely difficult to make the postseason with shitty offenses? Tell that to every Dodgers team from the 60’s.[/quote]

Just noticed I missed this. Why are you bringing up baseball stats from a different era of baseball? Show me a team that in the last 20 years that has won a World Series with an offence that was below the league average aside for the 2010 Giants.[/quote]

It depends on what you would call “below average”, but I would start with the 2002 Angels. The 2001 D’Backs weren’t a great offensive team either. Neither were the 1991 Twins. Show me a team with below average pitching that won the World Series in the last 20 years. [/quote]

Below average = bottom half of the league (16th-30th) in offensive production. No idea about the 1990 Twins but the 2002 and 2001 teams you mentioned had some really good hitters (Luis Gonzalez and Troy Glaus)

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
LOL @ NL West being the toughest division in baseball. Rays stinking it up? They won 96 games last year and they’re still a good team even with the losses in free agency. If you want to compete in the AL East you HAVE TO win 95 games.

You talk a lot about pitching, but the Giants still have a shitty offence and they have done nothing to address it. I can see them doing damage in the playoffs but only if they make it, which I’m unsure if they will.

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The second-best team in the NL West last year took a major hit and you think the defending WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS, who have literally the entire team returning might not even make the playoffs? I laugh. I would say any division with the best team in baseball is a pretty tough division. And like I said earlier, there’s actually a good reason to think that the staff in general will be even better this year than it was last year. And that shitty offense knocked around Halladay, Hamels, Lee and Oswalt much more than the vaunted Rangers and Phillies offense could do against the Giants staff.

And of course I talk a lot about pitching. It’s what separates the good teams from the great teams and it always has. The great Yankees teams from the 90’s won with pitching, not offense. The Indians teams from back then had great offenses, decent pitching and look where it got them. The Rangers had a great offensive team and the great pitching of the Giants shoved it right up their ass to the tune of a 4-1 series win. Great pitching masks any other weaknesses, as the Giants proved beyond doubt last year. It doesn’t work the other way around, as the 2010 Yankees can fully attest to.

I don’t think the Rays will finish .500 this year. They lost too much and they don’t have enough coming in to replace them. Plus, what kind of mental drag do you think those losses will be, combined with the fact that the fans (who didn’t show up to begin with) are definitely not going to be showing up?[/quote]

Of course, no one is denying the Giants pitching prowess, but it’s very difficult to make the post season with a shitty offence. I know winning teams are built around pitching and pitching rules in the post season.

The fact is the Giants offence also got weaker when they lost a 20+ HR hitting Uribe and they have done little to replace him. Why is it such a stretch that the World Series Champions (who barely got into the playoffs the year they won) miss the playoffs next year? If they had lost one more game last season you guys wouldn’t be celebrating. This isn’t basketball 16 teams do not make the playoffs, margin of error is much smaller. Look I’m not saying they won’t make the playoffs, but I think it’s far from a lock and there’s a decent chance they won’t.

What are you expecting out of Cody Ross this season? He’s never had a good season before.

What are you expecting out of Pat Burrell? Good move to bring him back cheap but the guys skillset is seriously declining.

What are you expecting out of a 37 year old Miguel Tejada?

What are you expecting out Renteria if he returns? He didn’t put up good regular season numbers this year or 2009. And I’m talking about during the 72 games he played, not for 162 games.

This team has a lot of holes in the offensive side.

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Extremely difficult to make the postseason with shitty offenses? Tell that to every Dodgers team from the 60’s.[/quote]

Just noticed I missed this. Why are you bringing up baseball stats from a different era of baseball? Show me a team that in the last 20 years that has won a World Series with an offence that was below the league average aside for the 2010 Giants.[/quote]

It depends on what you would call “below average”, but I would start with the 2002 Angels. The 2001 D’Backs weren’t a great offensive team either. Neither were the 1991 Twins. Show me a team with below average pitching that won the World Series in the last 20 years. [/quote]

Below average = bottom half of the league (16th-30th) in offensive production. No idea about the 1990 Twins but the 2002 and 2001 teams you mentioned had some really good hitters (Luis Gonzalez and Troy Glaus)
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So did the 2010 Giants: Buster Posey and Aubrey Huff.

And it was the 1991 Twins, not the 1990 Twins. The Reds won it all in 1990, but now that you mention it, there’s another team that wasn’t a great hitting team.

Come on man, this is ridiculous. All you’re arguing is that the weakest link on the Giants (hitting) will be the reason they miss out on the playoffs if they don’t make it. No shit. I can say the same thing about every team in the league. How weak that link is seems to be the real issue here, and I’m done arguing about it. It wasn’t weak enough to keep them out last year, but it was close. But their pitching could very well be better this year than last which gives their offense at least the same margin of error.

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DBCooper, I fervently follow all three sports: NFL, MLB and NBA. I typically post in the NBA threads. I’ve started posting over in the NFL thread and seen your posts there and now here. At least when it comes to MLB and NFL, you are one of few that knows what the hell they’re talking about.

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[quote]randman wrote:
DBCooper, I fervently follow all three sports: NFL, MLB and NBA. I typically post in the NBA threads. I’ve started posting over in the NFL thread and seen your posts there and now here. At least when it comes to MLB and NFL, you are one of few that knows what the hell they’re talking about.[/quote]

Well don’t stop there, tell me more!

No just kidding. Seriously though, as a former Div I athlete and someone who has a couple years experience coaching 13/14 year olds in baseball, I understand the difference between stats and performance in the win column. I don’t think rajraj understands this. The Giants may not stack up well statistically, but for whatever reason, they did stack up well on the playing field itself, and there’s no substitute for that in ANY sport.

I can’t always explain why the team that is clearly better on paper loses to an inferior team. But it happens, and the ability to win is a statistic than can be measured; it’s in the win column. People seem to forget that wins/losses is a statistic as well, and the most important one at that. So when I hear someone slam the offense of a world champion, it rings hollow. You don’t have to be stacked on both sides of the ball, you don’t have to be stacked on either side. You don’t have to dominate in the regular season and coast into the playoffs. You just have to make it into the playoffs. You just have to win. It can be ugly, it can be pretty, whatever. It just has to happen.

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I could not agree more. Basketball is the least objective sport; meaning that stats don’t fully capture the ability to value players and teams and the various intangibles that define champions. Football can be better measured by stats and baseball is even moreso. But even with baseball there are those intangibles of which team has the “it” factor at the moment.

As soon as the Giants and Rangers took the field, there were a number of subjective factors that convinced me the Giants were going to win. For all I know there “stats” also backed this up but I think you get my point. Even down to the magic moments of Steve Perry being in the stands of game 2 and lip syncing his own “don’t stop believing” song while 43,000 fans sang along.

There also seems to be some magic moments for the eventual champion that happen along the way. A ball bounces this way or that way, a few lucky plays go in their direction, a rock anthem sing along happens at the game, etc.

That being said, stats still matter. For sure.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
LOL @ NL West being the toughest division in baseball. Rays stinking it up? They won 96 games last year and they’re still a good team even with the losses in free agency. If you want to compete in the AL East you HAVE TO win 95 games.

You talk a lot about pitching, but the Giants still have a shitty offence and they have done nothing to address it. I can see them doing damage in the playoffs but only if they make it, which I’m unsure if they will.

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The second-best team in the NL West last year took a major hit and you think the defending WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS, who have literally the entire team returning might not even make the playoffs? I laugh. I would say any division with the best team in baseball is a pretty tough division. And like I said earlier, there’s actually a good reason to think that the staff in general will be even better this year than it was last year. And that shitty offense knocked around Halladay, Hamels, Lee and Oswalt much more than the vaunted Rangers and Phillies offense could do against the Giants staff.

And of course I talk a lot about pitching. It’s what separates the good teams from the great teams and it always has. The great Yankees teams from the 90’s won with pitching, not offense. The Indians teams from back then had great offenses, decent pitching and look where it got them. The Rangers had a great offensive team and the great pitching of the Giants shoved it right up their ass to the tune of a 4-1 series win. Great pitching masks any other weaknesses, as the Giants proved beyond doubt last year. It doesn’t work the other way around, as the 2010 Yankees can fully attest to.

I don’t think the Rays will finish .500 this year. They lost too much and they don’t have enough coming in to replace them. Plus, what kind of mental drag do you think those losses will be, combined with the fact that the fans (who didn’t show up to begin with) are definitely not going to be showing up?[/quote]

Of course, no one is denying the Giants pitching prowess, but it’s very difficult to make the post season with a shitty offence. I know winning teams are built around pitching and pitching rules in the post season.

The fact is the Giants offence also got weaker when they lost a 20+ HR hitting Uribe and they have done little to replace him. Why is it such a stretch that the World Series Champions (who barely got into the playoffs the year they won) miss the playoffs next year? If they had lost one more game last season you guys wouldn’t be celebrating. This isn’t basketball 16 teams do not make the playoffs, margin of error is much smaller. Look I’m not saying they won’t make the playoffs, but I think it’s far from a lock and there’s a decent chance they won’t.

What are you expecting out of Cody Ross this season? He’s never had a good season before.

What are you expecting out of Pat Burrell? Good move to bring him back cheap but the guys skillset is seriously declining.

What are you expecting out of a 37 year old Miguel Tejada?

What are you expecting out Renteria if he returns? He didn’t put up good regular season numbers this year or 2009. And I’m talking about during the 72 games he played, not for 162 games.

This team has a lot of holes in the offensive side.

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Extremely difficult to make the postseason with shitty offenses? Tell that to every Dodgers team from the 60’s.[/quote]

Just noticed I missed this. Why are you bringing up baseball stats from a different era of baseball? Show me a team that in the last 20 years that has won a World Series with an offence that was below the league average aside for the 2010 Giants.[/quote]

It depends on what you would call “below average”, but I would start with the 2002 Angels. The 2001 D’Backs weren’t a great offensive team either. Neither were the 1991 Twins. Show me a team with below average pitching that won the World Series in the last 20 years. [/quote]

Below average = bottom half of the league (16th-30th) in offensive production. No idea about the 1990 Twins but the 2002 and 2001 teams you mentioned had some really good hitters (Luis Gonzalez and Troy Glaus)
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So did the 2010 Giants: Buster Posey and Aubrey Huff.

And it was the 1991 Twins, not the 1990 Twins. The Reds won it all in 1990, but now that you mention it, there’s another team that wasn’t a great hitting team.

Come on man, this is ridiculous. All you’re arguing is that the weakest link on the Giants (hitting) will be the reason they miss out on the playoffs if they don’t make it. No shit. I can say the same thing about every team in the league. How weak that link is seems to be the real issue here, and I’m done arguing about it. It wasn’t weak enough to keep them out last year, but it was close. But their pitching could very well be better this year than last which gives their offense at least the same margin of error.[/quote]

All I’ve said from the beginning is I don’t think the Giants will run away with it in the NL West and it’s possible they could miss the playoffs (I consider the Rockies and Padres real competition for the Giants).

I wouldn’t be surprised if their offense gets worse. With respect to Posey, it’s not uncommon for rookies who have excellent rookie campaigns to struggle in their sophomore year. And once again Cody Ross, Miguel Tejada, Pablo Sandoval, Belt (if he’s on the team), Burrell and Renteria (if he comes back) are question marks. Even if Renteria and Burrell aren’t starting bench players still play a huge role in the NL.

I would still argue 2001 and 2002 Championship teams had better offenses than the Giants of 2010.

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And for a guy calling out my predictions, you completely shit the bed on your AL playoff predictions.

I still can’t believe you think the Rays will be a sub .500 team. That’s ridiculous

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Gosh isn’t it interesting that a baseball game involved both offense and defence?

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
And for a guy calling out my predictions, you completely shit the bed on your AL playoff predictions.

I still can’t believe you think the Rays will be a sub .500 team. That’s ridiculous[/quote]

I’m not calling you out on your predictions, I’m calling you out on your understanding of how the game is played. Otherwise you wouldn’t refer to the Giants’ offensive ranking in one category as a good indicator of their hitting prowess. All the Giants offense has to do is score enough runs to win, and they did it 92 times and 11 more in the postseason. If you knew anything about how the game itself is played, you would understand the inaccuracy in assessing offenses strictly through a look at their team batting avg.

Of course you know that your knowledge of how the game is played is lacking, which is why you have resorted to poring over 30 pages of posts trying to find my “predictions”. Predictions don’t mean shit, as all the so-called experts over at ESPN can tell you. The game is played on the field, not in a stat sheet. When push came to shove, the Giants offense was actually more than good enough to win World Series. Will this happen again? Maybe, maybe not.

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[quote]Hallowed wrote:
Gosh isn’t it interesting that a baseball game involved both offense and defence?[/quote]

What’s your point? I said they might not produce enough offensively to support their pitching this year. Apparently this is a huge stretch for all you Giants fans.

If you want to talk to pitching lets see how well Madison Bumgarner pitches this year seeing how he hasn’t pitched a full season in the major leagues.

But you guys are right, it’s not as if developing players ever take a step back…oh wait. cough Sandoval cough

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yer all gay.

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It’s not a stretch for a World Series Champion to miss the playoffs the following year. It’s happened several times in recent history.

Angels didn’t make the playoffs in 2003

Marlins missed the playoffs in 2004

Whitesox missed the playoffs in 2006

Cardinals missed the playoffs in 2007

Rays who didn’t win but made the World Series in 2008 didn’t make it in 2009.

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:
yer all gay.[/quote]

You’re right. You’re fucking right! This IS gay. I’m arguing about America’s national pasttimw with someone who lives in fucking Ontario. Who probably is tucked into his bed and sound asleep by the time the Giants’ games started out here on the West Coast. Why am I arguing about this? I’m not necessarily proud to admit it, but I understand the way the game of baseball is played better than I understand anything else. I’m just beating my brains against a brick wall here.

Feb.20th: first Spring Training game in Arizona. Are you excited Hallowed? I think it’ll even be broadcast on KNBR.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
And for a guy calling out my predictions, you completely shit the bed on your AL playoff predictions.

I still can’t believe you think the Rays will be a sub .500 team. That’s ridiculous[/quote]

I’m not calling you out on your predictions, I’m calling you out on your understanding of how the game is played. Otherwise you wouldn’t refer to the Giants’ offensive ranking in one category as a good indicator of their hitting prowess. All the Giants offense has to do is score enough runs to win, and they did it 92 times and 11 more in the postseason. If you knew anything about how the game itself is played, you would understand the inaccuracy in assessing offenses strictly through a look at their team batting avg.

Of course you know that your knowledge of how the game is played is lacking, which is why you have resorted to poring over 30 pages of posts trying to find my “predictions”. Predictions don’t mean shit, as all the so-called experts over at ESPN can tell you. The game is played on the field, not in a stat sheet. When push came to shove, the Giants offense was actually more than good enough to win World Series. Will this happen again? Maybe, maybe not.[/quote]

lol first off I clicked on page 1 because that’s where all the predictions are. You can talk all you want about intangibles but stats paint a realistic picture. The fact is they played in so many 1-run games and their offence has gotten worse from last year. This team has shit load of question marks in their lineup and gasp there’s a fair chance they won’t make the playoffs like a lot of previous World Series Champions haven’t in the past decade.

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I think the Giants can do damage in the playoffs again IF they make it to the post season.

But for me that’s a big IF.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:
yer all gay.[/quote]

You’re right. You’re fucking right! This IS gay. I’m arguing about America’s national pasttimw with someone who lives in fucking Ontario. Who probably is tucked into his bed and sound asleep by the time the Giants’ games started out here on the West Coast. Why am I arguing about this? I’m not necessarily proud to admit it, but I understand the way the game of baseball is played better than I understand anything else. I’m just beating my brains against a brick wall here.

Feb.20th: first Spring Training game in Arizona. Are you excited Hallowed? I think it’ll even be broadcast on KNBR.[/quote]

You gotta understand that your arguing with someone who will make judgments about an NBA team’s chances of greatness based on their performance in December. A zing on therajraj… ;0