[quote]therajraj wrote:
Apparently the Giants Acquired Hunter Pence, no word who they gave up.
I wonder if it’s Belt[/quote]
That’s all a bunch of bullshit. They’ll probably end up with another typical Sabean piecemeal fix in Shane Victorino or Scott Hairston. The guy is the worst fucking GM in baseball.
He’s always pointing out that the Giants are financially-restricted every time they pick up some retread while everyone else picks up a legit difference-maker. Except that some of the contracts Sabean has dished out are what has hamstrung the team’s finances more than anything. HE is the one who signed Zito and Huff and thought that Freddy Sanchez would be able to play this year. He was stupid not to go out and acquire a right-handed reliever in the offseason. It was obvious that Wilson was a question mark coming into the season. He should have had his bases covered regarding Sanchez, instead of hoping he would healthy up, so that the team wouldn’t be left with Crawford, Arias and Theriot in the middle of the infield. Some combination of Huff, Pill and Belt at 1st base? Another horrible lapse of judgment. He traded their best prospect, by FAR, to the Mets for a rental player who he didn’t even offer a contract to in the offseason? He could have had Beltran for $15 million a year for two years and he didn’t even know it! And then he turns around and says that the Giants simply don’t have the payroll flexibility to make a move. Fucking fire everybody in scouting/player personnel because the only players they seem to hit on are no-brainers like Posey and Cain.
Getting Melky Cabrera for Jonathan Sanchez was more a result of the Royals being complete idiots than Sabean’s brilliance. Hell, Vogelsong is pure luck, as was Jeff Kent for Matt Williams in 1997.
Shit, everything he’s done that has turned out well has been mostly luck or has depended on the errors of others.
He’s done a good job building the pitching staff through the draft, but has butchered the drafting of position players save for Posey and Sandoval.
I also wouldn’t say the Royals were complete idiots for the Sanchez-Cabrera trade. In no way, shape or form could anyone have predicted Sanchez and Cabrera’s 2012 season.
Sanchez literally became the worst pitcher in baseball to the point where he was DFA’d while Melky is having the best season of his career. Did you expect Sanchez to be THIS bad or Melky THIS good in 2012? I saw Melky a bunch as a yankee and he sucked balls back then. I fully expected the the Royals to win this trade.
Long story short, this trade falls into the lucky category as well.
He’s done a good job building the pitching staff through the draft, but has butchered the drafting of position players save for Posey and Sandoval.
I also wouldn’t say the Royals were complete idiots for the Sanchez-Cabrera trade. In no way, shape or form could anyone have predicted Sanchez and Cabrera’s 2012 season.
Sanchez literally became the worst pitcher in baseball to the point where he was DFA’d while Melky is having the best season of his career. Did you expect Sanchez to be THIS bad or Melky THIS good in 2012? I saw Melky a bunch as a yankee and he sucked balls back then. I fully expected the the Royals to win this trade.
Long story short, this trade falls into the lucky category as well.[/quote]
I expected Sanchez to be absolutely horrendous and I did expect Melky to be a .300 hitter. I’ve seen too much of sanchez to think that he’s anything other than a head case with poor command.
I expected there to be a large disparity between their performances this year. Maybe I just guessed right, but I remember thinking that this trade could be really lopsided. My only worry was that Sabean would overvalue the acquisition of Cabrera and do literally nothing else the rest of the offseason to address their anemic offense, which is exactly what happened. I certainly didn’t think the Giants were trading away an impact player for a platoon-type player.
I expected Sanchez to be a quality 5th starter. 5th starters are pretty terrible across the board.
On the Pence deal, I’m not sure if you saw it but some local SF channel showed a 'shopped pic of Pence in a Giants jersey. I can’t believe that report actually made the airwaves. Shoddy journalism.
Damn, we were on a roll and then Sheets had to go on and mess it up. 7 game win streak has definitely cut the Nationals lead… I am hoping the Nat’s cool off in the next month or two. The Braves have had their slump, so we should be good for the rest of the. Uggla is cold as ice though, not happy there.
[quote]pat wrote:
Damn, we were on a roll and then Sheets had to go on and mess it up. 7 game win streak has definitely cut the Nationals lead… I am hoping the Nat’s cool off in the next month or two. The Braves have had their slump, so we should be good for the rest of the. Uggla is cold as ice though, not happy there. [/quote]
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Washington missed the playoffs entirely. There’s still every indication that Strasburg will be shut down in a month and the rest of the staff is still pretty young as well. Gio Gonzalez had a horrendous second half last year and Zimmerman’s never really pitched this deep into a meaningful season. Harper is slumping big-time, Desmond is out and they didn’t do much at the trade deadline. I’ll stick with my preseason prediction and say that the Braves will win the division.
The guy in the article doesn’t actually demonstrate why sabermetrics theories are demonstrably false he just states they are.
What’s funny tho is even non-saber guys hate Joe Morgan. There have been campaigns to get his ass fired and even BONEZ voiced his displeasure of him a while back.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I know Bryce Harper would eventually struggle, same with Brett Lawrie and Demond Jennings.
It’s unbelievable what Mike Trout has done thus far. He may turn out to be a generational player.[/quote]
Yes, he may be having the best rookie year ever. I think the best comparison is Ted Williams rookie year in which he hit .327 with a 1.045 OPS and led the league in Rbis. Trout hitting .348 with a 1.010 OPS This year. And they were both 20 their rookie year, and immediatly the best player on the team. It’s hard not to think that Trout isn’t that type of player right now.
The guy in the article doesn’t actually demonstrate why sabermetrics theories are demonstrably false he just states they are.
What’s funny tho is even non-saber guys hate Joe Morgan. There have been campaigns to get his ass fired and even BONEZ voiced his displeasure of him a while back.[/quote]
It’s not that I think they’re bogus. I think the way that a lot of people use sabermetrics to evaluate players assumes that they carry more import than they actually do.
I don’t like the fact that many sabermetricians are constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop on certain players’ seasons when said players are playing above and beyond not only their own peripherals, but the league’s average as well during a given season. It’s as if they wait for the “inevitalbe reversion to the mean” or whatever, when they don’t actually understand by watching the game that the player that accumulated all those previous stats they base their data on is simply not, for whatever reason, the same player this season.
In other words, I don’t think that sabermetrics is anywhere near sufficient enough to account for the MYRIAD ways that players can make adjustments, both physical and mental, and during the season and the offseason, to their games. There’s no reason why a player who accumulates a certain level of stats or profiles as a certain type of player over several seasons can’t suddenly have a MUCH better season one year and then maintain it for several seasons, especially if that player makes several necessary adjustments.
I think it’s almost as if sabermetricians have to look at the past quite a lot in order to evaluate what is happening in the here and now, and also what might happen in the future. Well, that isn’t always the best way to go.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
I know Bryce Harper would eventually struggle, same with Brett Lawrie and Demond Jennings.
It’s unbelievable what Mike Trout has done thus far. He may turn out to be a generational player.[/quote]
Yes, he may be having the best rookie year ever. I think the best comparison is Ted Williams rookie year in which he hit .327 with a 1.045 OPS and led the league in Rbis. Trout hitting .348 with a 1.010 OPS This year. And they were both 20 their rookie year, and immediatly the best player on the team. It’s hard not to think that Trout isn’t that type of player right now. [/quote]
He has also made some sick catches robbing homeruns.
Okay, I think I have a strong nominee for most mind-blowing statistic of the year.
The Giants have the highest-scoring offense when playing on the road. They score an average of 5.18 runs per game on the road, tops in the majors. That doesn’t count today’s 3-1 loss in St. Louis. I would have been shocked to hear they had the best road offense in their division, let alone the entire league.