MLB 2012: The Postseason Edition

Give me a fucking break Raj! Are you for real?!?!?!?!?!?

So, since the major league average LOB% is about 72%, anyone above or below it is lucky or unlucky? Really?

Did it ever occur to you that they were above that threshold because they pitch well with runners on base? Mariano Rivera’s LOB% is 90%. I’d be willing to bet that you will NOT find players more than one or two standard deviations from 72% who are not also really good players. If you consistently found guys like Zito or Billingsley or Randy Wolf and that sort of player more than one standard deviation from the norm I would say that yes, LOB rate is a measure of luck.

But the fact that really good pitchers tend to be the ones who are the statistical anomalies tells me that there is more than just luck involved.

BABIP is a little based on luck, but it too is a measure of a pitcher’s skill more than anything else. The fact is that BABIP does not take into account how hard a ball is hit. A poor pitcher gives up more hard-hit balls than a good one does. So when a hard-hit grounder finds a hole, on paper it looks like luck, especially when another grounder finds a glove. BABIP doesn’t take into account that a hard-hit ball doesn’t give an infielder as much time to get to it.

Hard-hit balls that an infielder doesn’t handle are going to be scored a hit more than an error, and certainly more often than a routine ball that isn’t fielded cleanly. So when a hard-hit grounder is bobbled and then the throw is a half-step late, that too looks like luck to a sabermetrician.

But it isn’t luck at all. Unless we are to start believing that how hard a hitter hits the ball is also luck. If that were the case then you could argue that the entire game is pure luck. But the reality is that the ONE THING a pitcher can control pretty well is where the ball is thrown and, as a result, how hard the ball is hit.

You know, it seems that when an AL team loses that should have won a series, whether it’s the ALDS, ALCS or the Series, it’s usually because they stopped hitting. Certainly held true for the Yankees and then the Tigers.

Perhaps if they could manufacture runs they wouldn’t go into the shitter when they stop hitting for power. It seems that the AL teams can be neutralized big-time by pitching well or around the 3-5 hitters. Not the NL though. What the fuck did Pence and Posey do in the big RBI spots for the Giants this postseason? Aside from Posey’s grandslam in Game 5 of the NLDS, not much at all. And yet they won it all. We KNOW that the Tigers can’t win without production from the 4-5 hitters and we KNOW the Yankees can’t win that way either.

Okay, how the FUCK did Jimmy Rollins win the Gold Glove at SS this year? It was bad enough that Brandon Crawford wasn’t even nominated. Now they’ve really blown it by awarding it to the worst of the candidates.

Other than that, nothing really glares out at me. I would say it’s an example of East Coast bias, but it’s the managers and coaches who vote which means that each division in each league is weighted equally. Although it did say in the article that UP TO six coaches from each team vote along with every manager. I wonder if that means that maybe a lot of East Coast teams have 6 coaches voting while teams out West have just 1 or 2. Probably not the case, but they sure as shit blew the vote at NL SS this year.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121030&content_id=40129166&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

Gold Gloves are meaningless. Rafael Palmeiro won a GG playing only 35 games at 1B and the rest as a DH.

Jeter has several and his best defensive years have been league average.

Adam Jones robbed Mike Trout too… I have a feeling he’s going to be robbed twice this year.

Well does anybody think he’s a good hitting coach, I always just figured Tony gave him the job to try and help his rep out somewhat if thats_possible. Cards have been decent offensively since he showed up article says top 6 last 3 years and players like Molina has really improved, coincidence?

It’s really hard to tell how effective non-manager coaches are. We know so little about what they do with the players individually, crediting success or failure to them is very difficult.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
It’s really hard to tell how effective non-manager coaches are. We know so little about what they do with the players individually, crediting success or failure to them is very difficult.

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You’ve never been coached by anyone in baseball. This conversation isn’t for you to participate in.

Irrelevant. You’re not in the clubhouse of these teams, you have no insider information to make that call either.

Holy Christ… Jays just landed a boat load of talent and didn’t even lose their best prospects.

Jays received

Jose Reyes
Josh Johnson
Mark Buehrle
John Buck
Emilio Bonifacio
$4million

for:

Yunel Escobar
Jeff Mathis
Henderson Alvarez

Prospects:
Jake Marisnick (OF),
Adeiny Hechavarria (SS),
Justin Nicolino (LHP)
Anthony DeSclafani (RHP)

It still hasn’t sunk in…

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Holy Christ… Jays just landed a boat load of talent and didn’t even lose their best prospects.

Jays received

Jose Reyes
Josh Johnson
Mark Buehrle
John Buck
Emilio Bonifacio
$4million

for:

Yunel Escobar
Jeff Mathis
Henderson Alvarez

Prospects:
Jake Marisnick (OF),
Adeiny Hechavarria (SS),
Justin Nicolino (LHP)
Anthony DeSclafani (RHP)

It still hasn’t sunk in…[/quote]

Every single one of those players is going to be counting the days until they can get the fuck out of Toronto, and if they’re buried in the standings by the All-Star Game, they’ll all be demanding trades.

The Marlins sucked fucking cock with all of those guys last year. What makes you think it’ll be any different with the Blue Jays? Gee, Josh Johnson finally managed to stay healthy except he sucked for most of the year. Reyes will probably develop chronic leg/labia issues playing on that turf, Buerhle is going to get absolutely fucking shelled pitching in that division and in that park and if John Buck and Bonifacio end up with a combined WAR above 5 I’ll change my fucking avatar to a picture of Cito Gaston.

I’m too happy to fall for your troll. I said it at the beginning of the 2011 season that the Jays year to compete would be 2013+ and now what I’ve said is looks like it’s coming to fruition.

Yes there are risk factors, but getting any type of star there pretty much is. I think you would’ve been ecstatic had the Giants signed Reyes in 2011 offseason. He had an MVP season in 2011 for the Mets and a really good year for the Marlins in 2012. Sure he may not hold up for the back end of his contract, but by that point it won’t matter anyway. Bautista, who the team is built around will be old too. Their window for a title run is during Bautista’s prime which will likely last 2 maybe 3 more years before he no longer is an ultra productive hitter.

As for Josh Johnson, he’s only signed through 2013, so if he ends up getting hurt really badly in 2013, they can let him walk. The Jays have reinforcements coming from their still loaded farm system so I’m not concerned. Plus, there may be another trade in the works since they currently have 3 everyday catchers on the roster with Arencibia, Buck and elite prospect Travis d’Arnaud.

I think this is a perfect time to take a big risk too. Every year we’ve been saying age will catch up with the Yankees, and now it’s finally looking like it’s happening. Their offseason plans look like resigning their players more than anything, in other words maintaining the status quo.

The Red Sox are a mess and it’s actually been reported they attempted to put together a deal but the Jays offered the Marlins more.

The O’s will be a 1 hit wonder.

I guess Tampa I’m still concerned about, they’re still really good. However Price and Shields are free agents after 2013, so they may be dealt during the season which would ultimately kill Tampa’s playoff chances. Tampa doesn’t have a hope in hell of resigning them.

Believe it or not, the biggest signing the Jays had prior to this was Frank Thomas in 2007. This is also the largest trade in Blue Jays history, bigger than the Alomar and Joe Carter for Tony Fernandez and Fred McGriff trade. Of course, we don’t know how this trade will compare in terms of level of impact, positive or negative.

Nothing you say that’s obviously trollish or mega negative will bother me. I’m too happy to care.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Nothing you say that’s obviously trollish or mega negative will bother me. I’m too happy to care.[/quote]

The fact that you’ve already mentioned that twice in two separate posts says otherwise.

Ignorance is bliss. That’s why I’m always a bit surly.

Holy shit though to what Loria did. Exploiting the taxpayers of Miami to fund his stadium, signing a bunch of free agents to give the appearance of operating in good faith, then shipping them all out the following offseason.

The way the new CBA works, there is a large amount of revenue sharing as well as higher draft picks given to lower payroll teams. There’s also luxury tax thresholds for teams who spend a certain amount. As their roster currently stands, they have $30M in commitments entering the 2013 season, obviously one of the lowest barring any further changes.

Every economic system has cheaters trying to beat the system, but holy fuck Loria is king.

What I find so impressive about his cheating is it’s in full view for the whole world to see but completely legal.

Really boss. Thank goodness he doesn’t own the Jays.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
The Red Sox are a mess

The O’s will be a 1 hit wonder.
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True and True

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Holy shit though to what Loria did. Exploiting the taxpayers of Miami to fund his stadium, signing a bunch of free agents to give the appearance of operating in good faith, then shipping them all out the following offseason.

The way the new CBA works, there is a large amount of revenue sharing as well as higher draft picks given to lower payroll teams. There’s also luxury tax thresholds for teams who spend a certain amount. As their roster currently stands, they have $30M in commitments entering the 2013 season, obviously one of the lowest barring any further changes.

Every economic system has cheaters trying to beat the system, but holy fuck Loria is king.

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Agreed. This guy should have the team taken away from him. Oh wait, MLB practically already did that with the Expos, except they then turned around and just gave him the fucking Marlins. This guy makes Frank McCourt look like Santa Claus.

If I were Jose Reyes I’d be fucking livid. He signed a huge contract to play in Miami and now he gets traded to baseball Siberia. I wonder if that was part of the deal. Miami should burn Loria’s fucking house down and drag his ass through the streets.

[quote]johnman18 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
The Red Sox are a mess

The O’s will be a 1 hit wonder.
[/quote]
True and True[/quote]

Nice avatar. What happened, you lose a bet or something?

Nate Silver, the guy who predicted the US election with surgical accuracy use to be a baseball prospect evaluator and sabermetrician.

Didn’t know that.