@mnben87 your screenshots show your name, may wanna fix that
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Huh, in Aus GH is just obnoxiously expensive thenā¦ As is everything else.
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The highest Iāve seen for ugl is $300 a kit, which was being touted as pharmaceutical growth from a European country.
Thanks my man! They were sneaky with those. I made sure not to include the top as it had the name. Didnāt realize they had it at the bottom too.
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No problem, I had to assume it was overlooked. I got a buddy that is on growth now and I am waiting to see how it goes for him. Heās trying to bulk up from 200 to around 230 by October. So far heās up to about 207-208 after a month and he still has abs. The problem for me is heās fucking strong (he came from powerlifting to strongman) and I think he totaled around mid 1700ās under 200. Iām going to be competing against him in a couple of months at my next strongman competition. So I guess what I am saying is that, as well as I hope it goes for him, I hope it doesnāt since heāll be my competition lol.
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All of the good strongman competitors I personally know do both powerlifting and strongman. It seems many switch between the two, and seem to get stronger continually. I am planning on doing a strongman comp in the future. Iāll do a push pull meet first.
I guess the big difference is the purity. I have been talking with @iron_yuppie and @spiceweasel a bit on this. It seems that just going off of blood work isnāt completely indicative of quality. It seems even a slight amount of contamination can cause some of the side effects like red skin, swelling, inflammation. I guess if I go UGL (and low cost UGL for that matter), Iāll titrate up slowly.
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100% agree,
Thatās what this part was about lol. All a roll of the dice.
Before venturing into the world of statins you should investigate red yeast rice. Itās a naturally occurring statin (low grade, but still useful) and it may be enough. Your ratio isnāt too bad, actually. Mine was way worse back in August and itās down to the normal range already.
And yeah, your IGF-1 isnāt what Iād call optimal. Eventually anyone who spends time in the gym and has a knack for tinkering with their body finds themselves considering GH. Thereās a reason itās so widely used.
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What do you think about what @blshaw said about lowering both LDL and HDL? It seems that lowering all at the expense of lowered HDL is questionable given my HDL numbers.
I am considering HGH. A bit turned off by daily injections. I guess some do EOD. No issue pinning it with AAS in the same syringe correct?
I would probably want to monitor blood sugar too. A lot to learn in this GH realm, and I have only scratched the surface of AAS.
What else are you pinning sub q?
Statins lower LDL, triglycerides and marginally raise HDL. HMG-coa reductase inhibitors not only improve lipid profiles, but through various mechanisms elicit an antioxidant effect/blunt damage mediated via oxidative stress.
Is HGH required to be pinned subQ? I thought it could be pinned IM?
If lowering all gets your ratio in lone then that would be worth it. This assumes that HDL wouldnāt go too low, of course. But itās probably going to take some tinkering.
As for GH, I cannot find a good reason to do daily. Clinic data says eod is good and causes a lot less suppression of your natural system. Hard to justify doing it the old way when we know a different way works well enough.
I do subcutaneous because I mix it with HCG at times but IM is fine as well. My UGL was $180/kit. I only did the Roidstests, came fine, seems to be working very well IMO. Dropping fat without cardio quite rapidly. I have started red yeast rice since my last bloods. Just had blood drawn today. Iāll let you know if I see an improvement in the results.
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You learned me something
Is HGH fragile enough to be broken down by carrier oils/Chems from other steroids?
Hey man,
gonna chime in with some info and opinion.
The range doesnāt matter that much especially since itās the same unit and a very very sensitive method. Your MK doesnāt do shit to be frank.
Yes, your cholesterol values are suboptimal but not the worst. They could be better for long term risk reduction.
To the high cholesterol:
Low triglycerides with high LDL indicates a larger portion of LDL-A particles.
A common, heritable phenotype characterized by the predominance of small, dense LDL particles (LDL subclass phenotype B) is associated with relatively increased concentrations of plasma triglycerides, reduced levels of high density lipoprotein, and increased risk of coronary artery disease in comparison with subjects with larger LDL (LDL subclass phenotype A).
From:
- LDL-A particles are larger, less dense, and lower your risk.
- LDL-B particles are smaller, denser, and increase your risk.
When you have low triglyceride levels but high LDL levels, it could indicate that you have a diet filled with healthy fats.
Healthy fats will not only cause an increase in good cholesterol (HDL) but can also change the type of the LDL particles in the blood. Therefore, those high LDL levels may not actually be a bad thing.ā
From healthline
Also, thereās genetic influence on the type of particle you produce and then thereās dietary influence on cholesterol levels which can be acute. If you ate normal and healthy the days before, that chance is minimized.
Statins are known to raise HDL very slightly while lowering LDL tremendously.
I once reviewed a lot of literature in a post on here on this topic, I see if I can find it, was years ago.
In the meantime, this is good to check out:
Sums it up in the āhuman effect matrixā pretty well. HDL is lightly raised. No effect on LDL. Triglycerides go down.
Edit: found it
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Iād like to have any evidence of that. I searched a lot for good data on this because I was concerned for the amount of people getting prescribed statins even at a young age.
I couldnāt find anything. The only analyses I found even spoke about an improvement in cognition and a decreased risk of Alzheimerās.
So you are saying I likely have the worst ldl type?
No, I say, thereās a possibility that with your lipid values you got the better LDL type which lowers cardiovascular risk. To confirm that you would have to get another test. I just say itās a possibility that should keep you from making fast calls for medication.
You still have low HDL which is not good.
I miss read your post. Good to hear. I think for now Iāll try the fish oil, and re evaluate on the next blood work.
Shooting for a bit of fat loss, so that should help as well.