[quote]UtahLama wrote:
I personally don’t mind a cell phone, provided it is a cheap pay as you go type.
What bothers me people in line at the store using their EBT cards while their 5 kids play on iPads.[/quote]
As long as it is a flip phone with no data or text plan. [/quote]
Or, a land line that costs about $10 a month…
Not that that is a necessity either. [/quote]
I have to agree those fucking poor people should not be able to fill out job applications on line , They should have to do it the old fashioned way . Walk from their cave for many days , because there are no caves in Metropolitan areas . Apply in person and wait for their telepathic message
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Or, they can drive their BMWs to the local Library and use the “free” internet there.
I already pay for that, why should I pay for individuals to have internet?
[quote]orion wrote:
No free man has ever sufferred a direct tax.
Not in the Greek city states, not in the Renaissance Italian states, not in the British colonies.
An income tax is indeed, tyranny. [/quote]
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Oh you two…[/quote]
You are perfectly free to look up who or what the original “tyrants” were and I could even throw in a spiel in there how and why Oedipus Tyrannos turned into Oedipus Rex and how cultural attitudes shifted and whatnot, but one of the defining characteristics of “Tyrants” was exactly that, an income tax.
[quote]orion wrote:
No free man has ever sufferred a direct tax.
Not in the Greek city states, not in the Renaissance Italian states, not in the British colonies.
An income tax is indeed, tyranny. [/quote]
[/quote]
Oh you two…[/quote]
You are perfectly free to look up who or what the original “tyrants” were and I could even throw in a spiel in there how and why Oedipus Tyrannos turned into Oedipus Rex and how cultural attitudes shifted and whatnot, but one of the defining characteristics of “Tyrants” was exactly that, an income tax.
Yale free online courses, fuck yeah. [/quote]
Like I said, offer a viable alternative to pay for public goods. I’m all ears errr eyes I suppose.
[quote]orion wrote:
No free man has ever sufferred a direct tax.
Not in the Greek city states, not in the Renaissance Italian states, not in the British colonies.
An income tax is indeed, tyranny. [/quote]
[/quote]
Oh you two…[/quote]
You are perfectly free to look up who or what the original “tyrants” were and I could even throw in a spiel in there how and why Oedipus Tyrannos turned into Oedipus Rex and how cultural attitudes shifted and whatnot, but one of the defining characteristics of “Tyrants” was exactly that, an income tax.
Yale free online courses, fuck yeah. [/quote]
Like I said, offer a viable alternative to pay for public goods. I’m all ears errr eyes I suppose.[/quote]
Well tariffs, they pay for roads and the military.
They wont pay for a whole lot of other nonsense though.
If you dont want to favor goods depending on how much they are produced in the country, make it a VAT on stuff nobody needs but wants.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It could be free , [/quote]
What color is the sky in your world?
It isn’t free, the taxpayer’s pay for it. Which is me, seeing as I’m firmly within the small percentage of people in this country that pay the vast majority of taxes collected.
Let this sink in for a moment:
Just because the government hands it to you, doesn’t mean it was free, someone, somewhere paid for it.
[quote]orion wrote:
No free man has ever sufferred a direct tax.
Not in the Greek city states, not in the Renaissance Italian states, not in the British colonies.
An income tax is indeed, tyranny. [/quote]
[/quote]
Oh you two…[/quote]
You are perfectly free to look up who or what the original “tyrants” were and I could even throw in a spiel in there how and why Oedipus Tyrannos turned into Oedipus Rex and how cultural attitudes shifted and whatnot, but one of the defining characteristics of “Tyrants” was exactly that, an income tax.
Yale free online courses, fuck yeah. [/quote]
Like I said, offer a viable alternative to pay for public goods. I’m all ears errr eyes I suppose.[/quote]
Well tariffs, they pay for roads and the military.
They wont pay for a whole lot of other nonsense though.
If you dont want to favor goods depending on how much they are produced in the country, make it a VAT on stuff nobody needs but wants. [/quote]
Tariffs are an interesting thought, although I’m not sure they work for even a modest military and infrastructure. Tariffs have implications.
I’ve got no problem with a VAT on wants assuming sales tax is eliminated among other things.
I’ve got no problem with a VAT on wants assuming sales tax is eliminated among other things.[/quote]
FFFFUUUUUCCCCKKKKKK that noise.
Given our government’s history, fuck a VAT. Just say no dude. Just say no. [/quote]
I just can’t win in this thread![/quote]
Nah, it is just a general inexperience in taxation…
The VAT sounds great on the surface, until you dig deep into the bowels of taxation and how far down the rabbit hole the blue pill takes you. Then you look at the VAT as the tax from hell that will be in this country. Sort of like the carbon tax will be, but its bigger, shitter and slightly less moronic brother.
