Hello, new t-nation member here. I’m looking for some advice. I’ve been on TRT/on and off cycles using ugls for the past year or so and recently we’ve been notified that they are gonna start implementing random urinalysis drug tests for steroids specifically. How fucked am I? I’m gonna go ahead and jump off cycle and hope I don’t get selected for a random test anytime soon. But if I were to get tested is there a way to mask the results? Like via bringing up my epitestosterone levels any way?
To clarify, you are wanting advice on how you can mask your illegal drug use from your employer, the United States Military, so that you can continue to receive pay and benefits while not abiding by your contractual agreements and the oath you’ve sworn?
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The testing is new. Test usage is almost encouraged in this community until just recently. Its just test. Makes us better at our jobs, which allows more people to get home safely.
My understanding is that if you are actually diagnosed with hypogonadism you can have that documented on your medical records and receive TRT such that a urinalysis will be a non-issue.
Problem is their levels the docs here use are insanely low as a baseline. Like they say 250ngdl is acceptable and obviously current research shows thats not the case. So getting it prescribed is very very difficult.
And my natural levels tested were 340. Pretty bad.
I’m gonna have to go off now anyways regardless and just live with the sucky side affects of low T. And hope they dont test any time soon.
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Mine was 46 and 38 on 2 different measurements. I would have loved to have been at 340. Just getting to 400 was life changing for me.
Jesus…get off your high horse. If there’s one occupation that should be exempt from being penalized for steroid use, it’s the military.
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I’m not going to argue against shoulds or should nots here my dude: just want to understand the situation.
Jesus yea maybe I should count my blessings I wasnt that low. But I was having low t side effects at 340. Was trying my best to optimize my health and be as fit as possible. Live clean otherwise and eat and rest well.
I wish
This is probably your best bet.
When i was enlisted, they did random urinalysis with no notice, so you were totally fucked if your name was called.
If you have advance notice of a few days, you could probably get away with test prop.
It’s probably smartest to just not dabble with it. Too much lifetime risk of getting caught.
Then why did you word it with the tone you did? Sounded judgemental as fuck, dude.
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Yea I’m just gonna hop off for the remainder of the time I have in. I was more wondering if there was anything that could be taken right now to help mask the exogenous testosterone usage in case they like random test me in the next several weeks. The only thing I can think of is just doing a quick PCT sooner than later.
Well, you’re probably going to crash pretty hard without something to help you restart, but nothing is going to help you clear test faster.
Half life is 11ish days and your dose wasn’t too high so you’re reasonably safe.
I’ve read that what they test for in a urine sample is the testosterone to epitestosterone ratio. So not even how much T you have is even the problem. It’s that ratio. Epitestosterone is suppressed by the exogenous T. So I’m trying to figure out a way to boost that epitestosterone without having to source it itself. Cause it’s really hard to find.
If i were to guess, HCG would be a good bet.
It stimulates (?) LH, which signals the balls to produce more testosterone. Meaning the test being produced is “natural” test at that point.
I don’t know if this is proven, but HCG is a typical PCT thing anyways.
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