Mike's TSA Adventure

I just got back from my honeymoon with the lovely wife. The wedding went a lot better than I was afraid weddings were supposed to go. GI Joes on the wedding cake (which were later put in compromising positions), and a keg of Sam Adams made it a pretty decent event. The bachelor party on the other hand was an event to behold.

So I’m going through airport security on the first leg of our honeymoon and I place my carry-on on the x-ray belt. It is stopped and I am ordered to have a seat. My wife informs the TSA guy that he doesn’t have to be rude to which she is told to, “shut [her] mouth.”

It appears that I had a full magazine in a small pouch. I kinda laugh realizing that I’m a dumbass. I had been tackled in the bathroom the morning of my bachelor party and didn’t get to properly check my pack. I apologize and tell him it’s an accident.

Multiple times during this “interrogation” I have to inform the TSA agent that he is the only person who has been rude or raised their voice when I am told to shut up when asking questions. My wife was repeatedly told to shut her mouth when asking me or him questions.

The TSA agent informs me that he is writing up a report about me that is going to DHS in a permanent file on me. He then threatens me, saying that my attitude and the tenor of our encounter would reflect how he wrote his report. He said he could either make the presence of the magazine sound like an accident or like an intentional incident and began to throw around words like felony, prison time, ect.

I asked him for a copy of the report and was denied. I asked him to speak to a supervisor and was denied. I then told him that I intended to write my congressmen and needed his name. He pointed to his first name on a badge with it and 5 numbers and said, “That’s all you are going to get.”

My wife of 20 hours is at this time crying heavily. We went through a little more sparring before she asked me to just get us out of there, so I finally complied. There’s actually a hell of a lot more to it, but this post is getting long.

It was really insane. I actually stayed calm with the whole scenario until I was threatened, then telling him I was a fucking veteran and didn’t deserve the treatment. I regret it, not for losing my bearing but because a vet doesn’t deserve to be treated any different from a citizen and neither should be treated like a felon.

I am starting to figure out that the only way to swallow a bitter pill is with a candy coating. I think that’s why in the places where we deal with gestapo, you see the most American flags. Those checkpoints are inundated with them. When those ask why I believe what I believe, these experiences are the answer. There is certainly no question where these people stand on the good guy/bad guy scale.

mike

Sorry to hear about the nonsense.

I’d like to mention things about authoritarianism and power tripping, but nobody cares what I say anyway.

I’m sorry your wedding has had this real shit-highlight

But that is the price you and your fellow americans pay for being free & safe, or at least this is what they tell me here in the political forum.

Sorry to hear about your experience.

It really sucks to hear about someone else submitted to idiots given too much authority and too little training.

Sorry to hear about that. I am so glad I don’t fly anymore.

I started flying quite a bit for work almost 20 years ago and these guys have always been power hungry jackasses. It certainly has not gotten any better since 9/11.

Just remember there are other options to travel. Vote with your dollars and use them as much as possible.

You guys have evidently never flown in Mexico.

At least you could understand what was being said to you.

Not so much down south. And they particularly hate whitey in the airports.

Mike

If they wrote a report up for carrying a loaded mag you are going to get a notice from the TSA in a few months. Ammo is prohibited in a carry-on. You will be asked to plead and pay a fine or contest it. You can negotiate the fine down. It is not an arrest nor is it a crime. It is a civil penalty. Hiring a lawyer to fight it was more then the cost of the fine after asking for a discount.

I had a diving knife in a bag at JFK. Forgot it was there. They called the Port Authority Police. They questioned me, determined I had no evil intent and took the knife. 6 mos. later I got the notice in the mail. It was a judgement call on the part of the police to make an arrest or call it an accident.

[quote]Mikeyali wrote:

mike[/quote]

mike,

Congrats on your wedding?

I’m sorry the guy was acting up.

However, I’m going to probably be the only guy who says it, “What were you thinking, you dumbass?”

It has to be said.

I know you like to push the envelope and make “political statements.”

However, did your really have to carry on the plane?

Did you really have to carry on the plane WITHIN 24 HOURS OF YOUR WEDDING?

Isn’t that just asking for extra scrutiny and potential trouble?

It’s like demanding to smoke at a gas station. Yes, it’s probably within your “rights” but, Jesus.

I’m not excusing rude behavior.

But, that TSA agent was frightened and his ass was on the line.

In summary, let me outline some of the things that you SHOULDN’T do post 9/11.

Don’t say the word bomb around uniformed people, don’t wave your gun/ammo around uniformed people, don’t praise bin laden around uniformed people. For God’s sake, don’t do these things in AIRPORTS!!!

Oh, check your luggage before going to the airport, as IT WILL BE CHECKED (I hope).

If anyone else has a list of things that seem completly obvious, please feel free to add to mine.

JeffR

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/april2006/260406likelyterrorists.htm

I would have given you a hard time too – I already turned in my neighbor. (I got suspicious when I saw him talking to a cop and he didn’t even take a swing at him). Luckily I had the pamphlet to know what to look for. Nice guy my ass. Man did he have me fooled with that “businessman” BS.

The worst part about your experience is that it happens to people who aren’t even carrying a ‘weapon’ or loaded clip. I’d be nice to see casual “observers” at the airports start standing up in people’s defense – soon they’d have to put everybody on the “watch list”.

Good thing you didn’t have a ‘sippy cup’ full of water…

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You’re acting all innocent and all, but we all know the magazine was just a decoy to keep the agent from finding the 4 oz bottle of shampoo you stashed away.

[quote]JeffR wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:

mike,

Congrats on your wedding?

I’m sorry the guy was acting up.

However, I’m going to probably be the only guy who says it, “What were you thinking, you dumbass?”

It has to be said. [/quote]

Actually, I was thinking, “Oh shit, I just got tackled in my bathroom by my friends, and now I’m naked, tied up in my front yard am being force fed port.” I didn’t have time to finish packing before this event. That said, I should have rechecked it before flying though. I already concede I am an airhead.[quote]

I know you like to push the envelope and make “political statements.”

However, did your really have to carry on the plane?

Did you really have to carry on the plane WITHIN 24 HOURS OF YOUR WEDDING?
[/quote]

Carry what? I didn’t have the pistol in there. Just a magazine. And this wasn’t about making a political statement. This was an honest knucklehead mistake.

Firstly, this was beyond rude behavior. He refused to provide me with a supervisor to talk to. He refused to give me a copy of his report. He refused to provide me with anything but his first name. He refused me counsel with a friend (who was on the phone with her attorney and saying this was all illegal). He refused me counsel with my WIFE.

But really, that is all irrelevant. JeffR, he blatantly threatened to doctor the report to make my accident appear intentional thereby increasing criminal penalties if I did not stop asking questions.

And secondly, what was he afraid of? It was a magazine. Last time I looked bullets didn’t fly out of magazines on their own. If he was afraid then he needs to grow a pair or get a new line of work.

I’m not saying that he shouldn’t do his job. He absolutely should have written a report on the incident. I used to work security at a casino and served many nights as duty NCO and assistant Officer of the Day while in the Corps. There’s nothing wrong with writing a report and it should be done. But a few questions and a report should have ended it.

I was pretty sure you were going to fall in on this side of the argument and I can kinda understand why. You think that I’m a much like a silly college kid looking for trouble and shaking up the peace with silly political statements. That’s fine. But do not let this color this incident. Everything was on the up and up here.

mike

[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
JeffR wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:

mike,

Congrats on your wedding?

I’m sorry the guy was acting up.

However, I’m going to probably be the only guy who says it, “What were you thinking, you dumbass?”

It has to be said.

Actually, I was thinking, “Oh shit, I just got tackled in my bathroom by my friends, and now I’m naked, tied up in my front yard am being force fed port.” I didn’t have time to finish packing before this event. That said, I should have rechecked it before flying though. I already concede I am an airhead.

I know you like to push the envelope and make “political statements.”

However, did your really have to carry on the plane?

Did you really have to carry on the plane WITHIN 24 HOURS OF YOUR WEDDING?

Carry what? I didn’t have the pistol in there. Just a magazine. And this wasn’t about making a political statement. This was an honest knucklehead mistake.

I’m not excusing rude behavior.

But, that TSA agent was frightened and his ass was on the line.

Firstly, this was beyond rude behavior. He refused to provide me with a supervisor to talk to. He refused to give me a copy of his report. He refused to provide me with anything but his first name. He refused me counsel with a friend (who was on the phone with her attorney and saying this was all illegal). He refused me counsel with my WIFE.

But really, that is all irrelevant. JeffR, he blatantly threatened to doctor the report to make my accident appear intentional thereby increasing criminal penalties if I did not stop asking questions.

And secondly, what was he afraid of? It was a magazine. Last time I looked bullets didn’t fly out of magazines on their own. If he was afraid then he needs to grow a pair or get a new line of work.

I’m not saying that he shouldn’t do his job. He absolutely should have written a report on the incident. I used to work security at a casino and served many nights as duty NCO and assistant Officer of the Day while in the Corps. There’s nothing wrong with writing a report and it should be done. But a few questions and a report should have ended it.

In summary, let me outline some of the things that you SHOULDN’T do post 9/11.

Don’t say the word bomb around uniformed people, don’t wave your gun/ammo around uniformed people, don’t praise bin laden around uniformed people. For God’s sake, don’t do these things in AIRPORTS!!!

Oh, check your luggage before going to the airport, as IT WILL BE CHECKED (I hope).

If anyone else has a list of things that seem completly obvious, please feel free to add to mine.

JeffR

I was pretty sure you were going to fall in on this side of the argument and I can kinda understand why. You think that I’m a much like a silly college kid looking for trouble and shaking up the peace with silly political statements. That’s fine. But do not let this color this incident. Everything was on the up and up here.

mike[/quote]

mike,

My bad.

Thought you had the gun as well.

JeffR

If you didn’t look like Saddam they may have let you pass.