Mighty's Contest Updates & Q&A Thread

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
Stu - in your experience of drying out do you find it good to cycle off of creatine before a contest or do you stay on it all the way through? I can see both sides to it, it pulls water towards your muscles but I can see too much water retention also being an issue with it. Thoughts? Also you’re lookin amazing![/quote]

Yeah, there are always arguments for/against any sort of diet/training approach. Obviously you want water IN your muscles to avoid appearing flat, but you don’t wan the subcutaneous water which can obscure the finer details of your physique. That’s the reason behind a short term water drop. You will sometimes hear of competitors cutting their water 24-48 hours before a contest. To me, that’s just ridiculous.

In that amount of time, your body will realize what you did, and take water from your muscles for the rest of your body (essentially backfiring on what you were attempting to achieve). That’s why smarter competitors will either cut their water (completely, or just a very substantial drop off from previous days) much closer to their shows. Personally, while I don’t take a straight creatine supplement, I believe that there is a nice shot of it in the Anaconda, which I cease taking during my last week before a show (depletion week).

I do, however, take vegetable glycerol when I carb up the day before, and also backstage before the contest to try to get the muscles to suck up any extra water they can from the cubcutaneous areas. In Natty shows, conditioning is usually the deciding factor, so if given the choice between appearing 2 lbs bigger, but smoother, or 2 lbs less, but with veins running all across the surface of your skin,… I’d go for the later option.

S

Thanks for the input. I’ve got something I want to be absolutely peeled for so this definitely helps.

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I have, and still do think that HIIT is the superior choice of the two for better overall body composition changes. The smart competitor, however, will know how to use both to his/her advantage. The main metabolic-‘kick’ I rely on each week is a serious ass-kicking 25 mins of intervals done on a recumbant bike, 2x every 6 days.

This not only leads to a much higher EPOC (exercise post oxygen consumption), but many attribute a better degree of nurtient partitioning and as additional result (more LBM sparing!) The small bouts of steady state work serve as nothing more than some extra caloric ‘burn’, and aren’t even done at a very intense pace. My thinking is that ‘every little bit counts’, and as I’ve said in the past, I like eating and if a little 15 min ‘walk’ each day allows me to enjoy a few extra Tbsps of Peanut Butter, I’m all for it -lol.
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regarding those 25 minute ass kickers (lol), IIRC i think you said you go 30 seconds all out 90 seconds(or was it 2 mins?) rest, why that timing schedule?

i’ve been experimenting with HIIT on the bike for 10 mins or so PWO lately, usually 15 seconds all out 45 seconds rest and usually when doing that my BPM hit 155-165… then i tried a 30 second “sprint” and my BPM were easily 170-180.

i just went with the 15 second sprints b/c i saw CT recommend doing so once (i think he said anything under 15 seconds dominantly uses phosphagens for fuel)

anyway, basically im asking do you shoot for a certain BPM, is 30 second better than 15 etc?

thanks

My choice in interval times is basically in answer to ‘how long can I keep this up?’ or ‘how long do I need now in order to make the next spring fully productive?’

I always say that you should be pushing yourself so hard/fast during your sprints, that at 28 seconds, the pain is so unbearable that you’re basically running on discipline, and that even if someone had a gun to your head and said to keep it up for 31 seconds, you’d end up getting shot -lol.

As far as BPM, I don’t really get caught up in that. To me, it’s all perceived exertion. How hard does it FEEL like you’re working.

On an update note, I found out that the America contest that I’m doing in late May (my first show this season) will only allow me 60 seconds for a posing routine. In the past, I’ve always had minimum 90, and have adjusted and slightly tweaked my routine from last Spring expecting that. I’d hate to remove any poses, as I feel pretty good about my selection, so I’m trying to find a 60 second piece of music to use the routine with, albeit without holding each shot for more than a second (I’m imagining Franco Colombu quickly hitting his shots rat-a-tat fashion -lol). I

've found a few pieces of music that I could cut off/fade out after one verse completes, or I could try to find some instrumental piece that would be more ambiance than anything. Any suggestions would be appreciated. At the moment, I’ve got a short list, with Megadeth’s ‘Hanger 18’, and Twisted Sister’s ‘I am, I’m me’ towards the top.

S

Are you familiar with Dream Theater? They’re a kick ass band with a lot of heavy melodic instrumentals. You may want to search through their catalog. I’d stick to their newer stuff, as it sounds less 80’s-ish.

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
My choice in interval times is basically in answer to ‘how long can I keep this up?’ or ‘how long do I need now in order to make the next spring fully productive?’

I always say that you should be pushing yourself so hard/fast during your sprints, that at 28 seconds, the pain is so unbearable that you’re basically running on discipline, and that even if someone had a gun to your head and said to keep it up for 31 seconds, you’d end up getting shot -lol.

As far as BPM, I don’t really get caught up in that. To me, it’s all perceived exertion. How hard does it FEEL like you’re working.

On an update note, I found out that the America contest that I’m doing in late May (my first show this season) will only allow me 60 seconds for a posing routine. In the past, I’ve always had minimum 90, and have adjusted and slightly tweaked my routine from last Spring expecting that. I’d hate to remove any poses, as I feel pretty good about my selection, so I’m trying to find a 60 second piece of music to use the routine with, albeit without holding each shot for more than a second (I’m imagining Franco Colombu quickly hitting his shots rat-a-tat fashion -lol). I

've found a few pieces of music that I could cut off/fade out after one verse completes, or I could try to find some instrumental piece that would be more ambiance than anything. Any suggestions would be appreciated. At the moment, I’ve got a short list, with Megadeth’s ‘Hanger 18’, and Twisted Sister’s ‘I am, I’m me’ towards the top.

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Hanger 18 would be bad ass.

Of course I would be partial to Hallowed Be Thy Name from Maiden. And Curse the Sky by Iced Earth.

Again thanks for the updates and good luck.

Posing to megadeth has to be the coolest thing I am yet to see :slight_smile:

Well, last night sucked -lol. Such is the life of a NYC teacher. I had Parent conferences, so my day basically started with my getting up at 4:30, walking the pooch and doing my morning steady state work, working my usual hours, racing home to walk the pooch (and my neighbor’s pooch who I take care of each afternoon), racing back to work, chatting with parents until 9, then driving back home, going straight to the gym (I packed shorts and sneakers), doing my interval work (skipped the abs and forearm work, just too tired), dragged myself home, walked the pooch (again -lol), downed a Metabolic Drive shake, and passed out. Too much ‘stuff’ to do, and too little calories.

When someone in the gym informed me how ‘hardcore’ I am, I had to laugh. That’s a word I use almost jokingly. So many younger guys throw the word around seemingly in hope that others will hear it and see them in the light of ‘bad-assery’, or how serious and commited they are.

On the other hand, you’ve got guys who just do what needs to be done, quietly, efficiently, and because they want to do it for themselves. You don’t go into a contest prep half heartedly. You either do all that it entails, or you don’t. Last night, aside from the folks near the front desk,the majority of people that I usually chat with even know I was there (I’m just a bodybuilding ninja! -lol). Just did what needed doing, and left. Some days are like that.

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Stu - quick question about the vegetable glycerol. Where can you get it and how much should I take day before a show?

[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
Stu - quick question about the vegetable glycerol. Where can you get it and how much should I take day before a show?[/quote]

I’m not stu, but you can buy it at a Whole Foods. As on to how much, I’ll let stu answer that (I would trust him more with that answer).

I take a couple of Tbsps of the Glycerin in the afternoon when I drop my water, a couple more with my next meal, and yet again before bed with an herbal diuretic (‘shrink wrap’). The next day, before the show, I’ll usually take another few Tbsps with a high sugar food (ie. candy bar).

Update: Weighed in at 186 this morning, and narrowed my posing music choices to either the 1st 60 seconds of ‘Hanger 18’ by Megadeth, or seconds 10-70 of ‘Downfall’ by Trust Company. We’ll try them both out and see what clicks better.

S

Wow, 185.6 this morning. I got in late last night, and realized I had a nice chunk of cals left for the day (got thrown off schedule with the weekend). So, instead of just 2 scoops of Met Drive, I threw in some Almond Butter (this was just a few hours after downing yet another chicken breast, pickels and a diet coke in a movie theater). Such an amazing feeling, and totally contradictory to what most people (and mainstream media) think, when you force down more food before bed (gasp!), and wake up lighter. I love having real knowledge :smiley:

S

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
I take a couple of Tbsps of the Glycerin in the afternoon when I drop my water, a couple more with my next meal, and yet again before bed with an herbal diuretic (‘shrink wrap’). The next day, before the show, I’ll usually take another few Tbsps with a high sugar food (ie. candy bar).

Update: Weighed in at 186 this morning, and narrowed my posing music choices to either the 1st 60 seconds of ‘Hanger 18’ by Megadeth, or seconds 10-70 of ‘Downfall’ by Trust Company. We’ll try them both out and see what clicks better.

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Trust Company

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

Trust Company[/quote]

This. Haha. It may make me biased that I always get pumped up from this song because it’s on a “best of kevin levrone video” I always watch though.

[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

Trust Company[/quote]

This. Haha. It may make me biased that I always get pumped up from this song because it’s on a “best of kevin levrone video” I always watch though. [/quote]

lmao I love it for the very same reason! :smiley:

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stu- i sent you a message but failed to realize you are in the midst of prep yourself. i will share this thread w/ my partner, and she shall pluck it’s fruit so to speak, metaphorically of course…too much sugar in da fruitz to actually eat right now.

answer when you can understanding you must be busy right about now.

[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
stu- i sent you a message but failed to realize you are in the midst of prep yourself. i will share this thread w/ my partner, and she shall pluck it’s fruit so to speak, metaphorically of course…too much sugar in da fruitz to actually eat right now.

answer when you can understanding you must be busy right about now.[/quote]

And I PMed ya right back! -lol. You can ask here if you think it relevant to the topic of this thread or keep it to PMs if you’d like. You guys all know me by now, I try to keep everyone happy :slight_smile:

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thank you stu, hope your prep is going well. i’ll list a series of Q’s prep related you can answer them in the order which they are received (hehe)or entropy based if it’s more zany and fun that way, i’d prefer the former. links from others on this topic/q’s are cool too. i’ll go back and google or t-search to try and find answers. i apologize if you’ve answered this stuff a zillion times and also apologies for not combing through better, i’m busy and love things handed to me on a silver plater.

she is roughly the same # of weeks out, show second week of May. last yr the field of Female natural bb was pretty weak, not sure if you saw the female bb…there were like three, competetors 2 and 3 were pretty weak IMHO. additionally, posing from them was very lackluster, a caricature of posing so to speak…anyway, she is going to win this fucking show!!

it is her first show, she’s been training for a few yrs but over the past yr to six months really got her diet in check, as results came she decided to do the show. she’s not a fan of figure because of the pageantry, it sort of undermines the training, jelly heels, quarter turns, bling and hairspray. that said, natty bodybuilding is her thing because lets be honest freaky big ripped chicks are not very sexy. at 5’3" offseason she was in the 150’s but her diet was so so and she could have been leaner. currently she is about 127lbs and she’ll likely step on stage @117-120 best guess as her legs, hams, glutes will continue to come in along w/ the other details (i’ll add a few pics after the post).

NOT HIJACKING STU"S SHIT** actually if it is an issue please anyone reading PM me w/ comments/answers/ideas/links, can post here but would like Stu’s approval.

  1. color- she is bone white, see through white, ghost white. cannot base tan, she will be in the hospital. that said we are going to use jan tana via the advice of Pauline Nordin, she is following an outline of her diet as well w/ modifications.

when to start coating, how many coats…my guess based on other friends use is at least 8 coats!!! coat shower coat shower coat shower day three cut showers. a few face coats? coat then hairdryer? day of show no coat just touch ups, fresh coats cover details yes/no? sponge brush legs upward? and or rubber gloves use hands to pat on too?

she is very sensitive to foods/reactive GI…means to diminish bloat the day of the show? e.g. and additionally carb up when in relationship to going on stage, what about during the day of the show, first show i do not want her passing out/falling over but do what her to be at her best.

no cutting salt too early think it fucks up a lot of people and doesn’t allow for them to get rid of all the water, have heard ridiculous shit like cut all salt 1 month out. opinions?

black suit pre-judging to keep attention on muscles, color suit evening.

t-shits, baggy sweats, flip flops, legs up on wall to keep blood out of legs to hold details day of show. best thing to use to pump up? a band?

she is cycling carbs currently, bumping up a bit during day or days of the week depending on how she looks. she is a vegetarian who eats eggs so proteins are coming from whey, egg whites (tons), and Quorn a veggie patty which is a bacteria based protein w/ whey and egg. as the show gets nearer it will be hard to cut whey because of the variables previously mentioned but does it have to go?

Shit…that is it for now…thank you Stu and others. i’ll follow w/ a few pics if that’s alright. remember this is her first show and has only been seriously training a year! she’s an ass kicker though, md/phd, life long athlete, anything she decides to do, she does well.

  1. shoulder trap thickness

  1. general pic of physique, vascularity in shoulders arms beginning, her obliques and abs are coming in nicely (not seen hehehe)