Michael Jackson Dead Today

[quote]SmallToBig wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
You nitwits jumping on the “pedophile” bandwagon are some of the simplest bastards on the planet.

Unfortunately the internet makes it easier for them to find each other… just visit 4-Chan for proof of this.[/quote]

…but they aren’t funny. What, we get 4 more pages of pedo jokes when the truth is, not one conviction was ever made because parents (who no one seems to question) accepted a paycheck over the supposed integrity of their own children?

You know, the one thing worse than supposedly being raped…is realizing your parents have a price on your head for which they will allow it to happen with their consent.

Some people are just really dumb.

Dude was crazy talented and just plain crazy! i don’t know if he was a molester, I wouldn’t put it past those parents to put their kids in harms way to make money.

[quote]Valor wrote:
One less pedophile in the world.[/quote]

Look bub.

I am no fan and have no horse in this race. I also have no problem differing from the results of a prosecution as this is no court of law. Since OJ has already been mentioned too, did the LAPD botch that investigation? You bet. Was the trial a circus? Absolutely. Was the jury pre-inclined to return an acquittal and did the people hand them that opportunity? Yep?

He was found not guilty and in the legal sense he therefore ISN’T, but don’t anybody tell me you don’t think he did it.

In the case of Micheal Jackson there are explanations excluding actual sexual contact with children that answer to the evidence more convincingly than “he’s a disgusting child molester who only escaped justice because of who he was”.

Some people just enjoy thinking the worst of others.

The scene that came together at the Apollo last night was cool to see.

I don’t care that Michael Jackson died. That is, I care no more than I would care if anyone else died. I empathize with his family and friends, of course. They suffered a loss. His fan base, however, have lost no more than they ever had. I have already heard the first of the tear-filled phone calls into the television “news” shows. I will no doubt read a number of pained eulogies from his fans on various bulletin boards and social sites. I cannot understand an emotional attachment to a stranger so strong that one would cry upon their death.

When Lady Di died, you saw a similar thing. When Elvis died you saw it. You saw it when John Lennon was murdered, and you’ve seen footage of people’s reactions to Kennedy’s assassination. People CRIED. People sniffled and showed overt displays of an emotional loss. When Andy Kauffman died, a coworker was miffed when he approached me with pictures of “Andy” and I didn’t join in in the sadness.

I am a fan of some people too, naturally. I would typefy meself as a fan of Cam Neely, Jimmy Page, Denzell Washington, etc. A few actors, musicians, authors, and what have you. But I have had a number of these people die without me feeling anything other than a small sense of personal regret in that I would be getting no more of whatever it was I got from them.

Is that it? Is that why people around me cry when one of their heroes, idols, or whatever they are dies? They are crying over a loss of whatever it was they were getting? But what on Earth were they getting that warrants such a strong emotion? If Jimmy Page were to die, I’d still have “The Song Remains the Same.” If Cam Neely dies, I’d still regard him as the greatest hockey player ever. I’d feel bad for their family and friends, but for myself it’d be a mild and easily forgotten sense of regret.

This “famdom” thing is bizarre anyway. Jackson, for instance, has done little more than act like a complete nutjob the last two decades. He was a freak show in a business of freak exhibitions. Why the tears? My own favourites, using Jimmy Page as an example, dragged a 13-year-old girl on tours with him as the “tour photographer,” and took so many drugs that he has done shows sitting down. How do people “idolize” these complete strangers?

Screw it. Again, Jackson’s family and friends have my sympathy, but his weeping fans need to regain their grasp on reality. Who in the Hell do they think he was? Do they imagine he cared one iota about them? Do they imagine that they were anything more than a market to be penetrated? Do they imagine that he gave them anything more than the next popular recording artist?

Like his music if you do. Regret the loss of more music from him. But dry up the freaking tears, you nutjobs.

What happened at the apollo…?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Valor wrote:
One less pedophile in the world.

Cute.

Tell me, what price would your parents say you go for when it comes to RAPE?

They would allow someone to rape you for…$1,000?

$20,000?

$1,000,000?

What is the price tag for someone to do anything to you when you were a kid so that they would forget the whole thing?[/quote]

How can you argue it one way or another? I think it’s foolish to not think that some parents might take some money at the expense of their kids. There’s a lot of fucked up parents in this world. We see crazy shit in the news all the time.
I for one can’t say either way, but it’s a bit weird to have kids sleep in your bed that aren’t yours.

[quote]MikeKubo wrote:

The guy came on tv in a sitdown interview, crying, because of how wretched the thought of doing what he was accused of was. Again, both families that accused him of this took him for a ride, plain and simple.

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Yeah, and OJ said he was innocent, and Kobe Bryant was crying on camera after the rape allegations, sure he was crying because he committed adultry, that’s cool

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
enrac wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
tom63 wrote:
I really could care less. The guy was a weirdo child molester. Hope he rots in hell.

You’re talking about the most famous man in the world. Yeah, there’s alot of famous people and most of them are weirdos, but none of them are Michael Jackson famous. Tom Cruise is famous, and he’s a fucking loon, but he’s not Michael Jackson famous. Angelina Jolie’s pretty fucking famous and pretty fucking weird, but she’s not Michael Jackson famous. There’s been three people in the history of the world who’ve attained that level of noteriety and they’ve all self destructed: Elvis, Michael Jackson, and Britney Spears, and maybe she’s young enough that she can somewhat do damage control. There reaches a point of being TOO famous, and these three hit it. I’m not condoning what he did, or allegedly did, but no one here will ever understand the level of insanity his life reached on every concieveable level. The first tape I ever bought was BAD when I was in kindergarten. He was the greatest entertainer in music history, and no one will be able to touch what he’s done. Show some fucking respect.

I agree with your sentiment, but I wouldn’t put Britney in the same company as MJ. Just saying…

For a time she was the most famous person in the world. She didn’t have the longevity, but she did reach that same peak.[/quote]

You serial? How old are you? Serially?

You think Elvis, MJ and Britney are the 3 most famous people in the world? I haven’t read past this retarded post, so if someone has already called you out, I apologize.

I’m not smart enough to go into this too much (and if I was, I’d be wasting my breath because you’re obviously dum), but I can throw out a few thoughts/names to prove you’re a retard:

  1. JFK is PROBABLY more famous than Elvis, MJ and Britney. He was the President of the US that was killed. They made like movies and wrote books and shit about it.

  2. Gandhi might be more famous than E, MJ and B…

  3. Hitler?

  4. Princess Di?

  5. Jesus?

I’m sorry if you’re not normally this stoopid and that you’re just overcome with grief and not thinking clearly. My guess is that it’s the former not the latter.

I love that Dave Chappelle skit where he was defending Michael Jackson “Michael is innocent” Why is that? “ummm…He made Thriller…(With a Duhh look on his face)”, then they asked him if he would let Michael watch his kids…He Said “Fu#$ NO!”…

Something like that, it was hilarious!

WHO FUCKING CARES!

END THIS THREAD B/C IT’S RETARDED.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
No matter what anyone says, he will go down in history as one of the most talented artists ever.[/quote]

He was no Maggie Gyllenhall.

Seperate the man from his music.

The music is legendary, like it or not. I think the Jackson 5 were the last big name band to roll out of Motown. Michael Jackson had an unbelievable voice. As frontman for The 5, he sounded like he was schooled in soul, even though he was just a kid. And while I’m not crazy about his music, I have to say Thriller was a watershed in his career. As a bassist, I feel the songs on that album have a beat that’s nearly obsessive.

There’s lots of weird celebrities, musicians and polititions. Comes with the territory. The music will outlast the man because of his talent. And that’s the best afterlife one can hope for.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
but she was the most famous person in the world for a period. That cannot be questioned.[/quote]

It can too you idiot (I say this with love in my heart you dopey kid)…just because something or someone resonates with you and the papparazzi doesn’t mean that makes it the most famous event/person ‘in the world’…you think the Chinese were paying attention to either of the fuctards you mentioned? How about India? anyone over in the entire continent of Africa?

Maybe tone down your hyperbole to ‘she was the most famous person on my tv’.

LOL, people are posting their feelings about one of the world’s most talented entertainers who just died at a relatively young age, suddenly, and their feelings about his life, death, career, memories of their own lives that he touched w/ his talent, etc.

You post a picture of Capt. Planet w/ the added intellectual brilliance of, “This is retardedz!!!”

We’re the ones polluting. Because you’re the super cool dude with 10 lbs balls and 12 foot dick. Super internet tough guy.

Man, I fucking hate stupid people nowadays. Some of you assholes need to grow up, learn what being a MAN is, and go buy yourselves some class and respect. Your parents, and the world around yourselves, have failed you miserably.

Kubo

[quote]Jereth127 wrote:
What happened at the apollo…?[/quote]

Bunch of people gathered under the marquis, sang songs played music, etc.

Look,

I’m one of those guys who was really surprised and shocked, though I didn’t have the glove or the jacket or any of that stuff I still listened to his music, watched his videos. I had a passive interest in the guy, but I was still taken aback by his death.

There are people who LOVE this guy. Loved his music, loved his image from the 80’s, all of that. I have a co-worker who had the Thriller album cover as her screen saver for as long as she’s worked with me. She’s destroyed today. Super upset.

Even though I don’t get it and never will, it does my soul good to see that people come together to lean on each other and mourn someone they mutually adored, and now mutually feel the loss of in their lives.

So, no matter what my opinion was of MJ, I think it’s appropriate for people to give the real mourners some slack. Shut the fuck up with the jokes and be a decent human being. No matter what I think or don’t think of Michael Jackson, I have a co-worker (and you all probably do too, or a family member) who is really affected by this, and we should be good people. Take this untimely event as an opportunity to better understand each other rather than stand on opposite sides.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
<<< Well said, Mike.

I can’t believe I’m defending Jackson… I was never a fan of his music as a solo artist (except for “Human Nature”), and I wasn’t entertained by his showmanship and fashion sense either.
I guess I’m defending the human that he was.

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I’m not even defending the human he was, but it’s very wrong to sully someone’s memory with something as serious as pedophilia when when there is very much more than a reasonable doubt. It’s not right.

[quote]Jereth127 wrote:
RIP

Possibly the most talented artist to ever live[/quote]

lol

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:

weak minded people believe everything other weak minded people tell them. [/quote]

like what they’re told from their psych 101 professor? or is it ‘teacher’ at community college?

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
So, no matter what my opinion was of MJ, I think it’s appropriate for people to give the real mourners some slack. Shut the fuck up with the jokes and be a decent human being. No matter what I think or don’t think of Michael Jackson, I have a co-worker (and you all probably do too, or a family member) who is really affected by this, and we should be good people. Take this untimely event as an opportunity to better understand each other rather than stand on opposite sides.
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My sister is pretty upset. She used to kiss his poster on her wall every night before she went to bed when she was younger.
Please retain some taste and avoid making jokes about what I just said(you know who you are)