Yes, Mexicans. Other Latinos don’t even like Mexicans. Their culture is crap aside from the fact that they generally don’t abandon their elderly. As CB mentioned, they see no problem with stealing anything that’s not locked down. And they’re absolutely racist to the core.
I’m hereby offering G_L, Schlenk, and anyone else who wants to experience some real vibrant diversity some tours of some real vibrant diverse areas in LA county.
Bring a level II vest with you.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
You might have also taken into account that Cockney had said something like “virtually all” and this post was a response to that.
Actually, cockney said:
This is simply not true. The vast majority enter legally and overstay.
Oddly enough, your link, even when looking at the entire migrant pop. shows that more than half entered ILLEGALY.
“The rest of the unauthorized migrant population, somewhat more than half, entered the country illegally”
And his response, was to Maximus:
MaximusB wrote:
Most people from South of the border do not come on a Visa, so they are not overstaying anything. They are walking across the border knowingly and willingly.
[/quote]
So is all of this your strange way of thanking me for providing information that is making this point?
Why is it odd that my link said what I quoted? What exactly do you think you’re “proving” here? And why did you capitalize “illegally”? Are you trying to get me to look up more specific data for you?
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
You might have also taken into account that Cockney had said something like “virtually all” and this post was a response to that.
Actually, cockney said:
This is simply not true. The vast majority enter legally and overstay.
Oddly enough, your link, even when looking at the entire migrant pop. shows that more than half entered ILLEGALY.
“The rest of the unauthorized migrant population, somewhat more than half, entered the country illegally”
And his response, was to Maximus:
MaximusB wrote:
Most people from South of the border do not come on a Visa, so they are not overstaying anything. They are walking across the border knowingly and willingly.
So is all of this your strange way of thanking me for providing information that is making this point?
Why is it odd that my link said what I quoted? What exactly do you think you’re “proving” here? And why did you capitalize “illegally”? Are you trying to get me to look up more specific data for you?
[/quote]
Sorry, I’ll let the conversation stand as is for others to make up their mind. Not going in circles with you.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
You might have also taken into account that Cockney had said something like “virtually all” and this post was a response to that.
Actually, cockney said:
This is simply not true. The vast majority enter legally and overstay.
Oddly enough, your link, even when looking at the entire migrant pop. shows that more than half entered ILLEGALY.
“The rest of the unauthorized migrant population, somewhat more than half, entered the country illegally”
And his response, was to Maximus:
MaximusB wrote:
Most people from South of the border do not come on a Visa, so they are not overstaying anything. They are walking across the border knowingly and willingly.
So is all of this your strange way of thanking me for providing information that is making this point?
Why is it odd that my link said what I quoted? What exactly do you think you’re “proving” here? And why did you capitalize “illegally”? Are you trying to get me to look up more specific data for you?
Sorry, I’ll let the conversation stand as is for others to make up their mind. Not going in circles with you.[/quote]
You are VERY funny sloth. What is the point you are trying to make here?
When you see signs like this on the 5 or 805 freeways, they are not meant for Visa overstayers. These are signs found near the border, so you know that you might see people trying to cross the freeway.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
he point being, at that time, Cockney and PR seemed narrowly focused on Mexicans.
Yes, Mexicans. Other Latinos don’t even like Mexicans. Their culture is crap aside from the fact that they generally don’t abandon their elderly. As CB mentioned, they see no problem with stealing anything that’s not locked down. And they’re absolutely racist to the core.
I’m hereby offering G_L, Schlenk, and anyone else who wants to experience some real vibrant diversity some tours of some real vibrant diverse areas in LA county.
Bring a level II vest with you. [/quote]
You are right, many Latino cultures despise Mexicans because they give all Latinos a bad names. Typically speaking, they are the most crass, crude, an vulgar of the Latino people. I have known many people from Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua who are very nice and pleasant people. They do not like to be associated with people of Mexico.
When I went to USC, I remember walking to my car after football practice and Mexico would be playing a soccer game at the Coliseum. It was horrible to see such drunken foolishness. These are some of the only people who destroy shit even when their team wins. If Mexico ever wins a World Cup, which I don’t think they can because they are not very good, they will need to have riot cops out on the streets of LA. Last year during the Laker parade, you had Mexicans looting shops of Mexicans, yes their own people. There really aren’t any rules with them, they get drunk and create a huge mess.
GL would not be able to handle what real immigration problems look like, because he lives on the ass end of the country from the border. Honestly, can you get any farther away? Come here to LA County on May 1, illegal alien day, la cucaracha day. When you see 1/2 million Mexicans marching up Figueroa, waving the Mexican flag, demanding amnesty, claiming we are the racist evil whites. Your shit won’t be the same ever again.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
he point being, at that time, Cockney and PR seemed narrowly focused on Mexicans.
Yes, Mexicans. Other Latinos don’t even like Mexicans. Their culture is crap aside from the fact that they generally don’t abandon their elderly. As CB mentioned, they see no problem with stealing anything that’s not locked down. And they’re absolutely racist to the core.
I’m hereby offering G_L, Schlenk, and anyone else who wants to experience some real vibrant diversity some tours of some real vibrant diverse areas in LA county.
Bring a level II vest with you.
You are right, many Latino cultures despise Mexicans because they give all Latinos a bad names. Typically speaking, they are the most crass, crude, an vulgar of the Latino people. I have known many people from Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua who are very nice and pleasant people. They do not like to be associated with people of Mexico.
When I went to USC, I remember walking to my car after football practice and Mexico would be playing a soccer game at the Coliseum. It was horrible to see such drunken foolishness. These are some of the only people who destroy shit even when their team wins. If Mexico ever wins a World Cup, which I don’t think they can because they are not very good, they will need to have riot cops out on the streets of LA. Last year during the Laker parade, you had Mexicans looting shops of Mexicans, yes their own people. There really aren’t any rules with them, they get drunk and create a huge mess.
GL would not be able to handle what real immigration problems look like, because he lives on the ass end of the country from the border. Honestly, can you get any farther away? Come here to LA County on May 1, illegal alien day, la cucaracha day. When you see 1/2 million Mexicans marching up Figueroa, waving the Mexican flag, demanding amnesty, claiming we are the racist evil whites. Your shit won’t be the same ever again. [/quote]
I dated a Salvadoran chick for awhile who hated Mexicans.
How about it, boys? Down for a little diversity tour?
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
he point being, at that time, Cockney and PR seemed narrowly focused on Mexicans.
Yes, Mexicans. Other Latinos don’t even like Mexicans. Their culture is crap aside from the fact that they generally don’t abandon their elderly. As CB mentioned, they see no problem with stealing anything that’s not locked down. And they’re absolutely racist to the core.
I’m hereby offering G_L, Schlenk, and anyone else who wants to experience some real vibrant diversity some tours of some real vibrant diverse areas in LA county.
Bring a level II vest with you. [/quote]
I would have to argue on the culture side. The culture here is fantastic.
Also, Mexicans here in Mexico are some of the hardest working people I have seen anywhere. Most people in addition to working a full time job have some sort of personal business that they are working in their spare time in order to improve their situation.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
They took arr jobs!
The biggest mockers always live in the whitest areas. [/quote]
I certainly don’t live in california or anywhere like it, but I’m not culturally isolated. I’m not mocking you either, that’s just a funny clip.
The only way to solve the immigrant situation in the u.s. is for our government to help support the Mexican economy. Not just with donations, but we should also be more than willing to work with there government to help create jobs on their side of the border. They are our neighbors after all.
[quote]I certainly don’t live in california or anywhere like it, but I’m not culturally isolated. I’m not mocking you either, that’s just a funny clip.
The only way to solve the immigrant situation in the u.s. is for our government to help support the Mexican economy. Not just with donations, but we should also be more than willing to work with there government to help create jobs on their side of the border. They are our neighbors after all.[/quote]
You’re an idiot. In saying this you have demonstrated that you are not entitled to have an opinion on the subject.
Mexico is the 11th biggest economy in the world. The gross per capita of Mexico City, is 30 grand a year USD, and this is a city of 25 million people. Mexico is more than capable of preventing much of the poverty in their country, however, they are run by corrupt oligarchs who do not want to invest into the well being of the lower classes so…they encourage illegal immigration as what would otherwise be a netloss, turns into a profit, amount to about 20 billion dollars a year from their illegal invasion of the Norte.
Mexico has no armed forces trying to prevent the illegals from crossing over, yet have garrissons upon garrisons guarding their southern border so they do not have to absorb poorer central americans stialing their jobs and services…ironic isn’t it?
The USA owes Mexico nothing, in the same way, I owe you nothing and you owe me nothing. Noone helped the USA develop itself, the people met the resources, and made their civilization. This is how all nations must be built.
Now cry on your crabcake in your pos pseudo-European state while the rest of us deal with the realities of living in places that have large plebian classes, and not just crusty old living-dead white people who encourage their nephews to fuck eachother in the ass and get married, because those are the kind of life-changing questions you irrelevant New England partricians are so passionate about, while the rest of us deal with life’s real issues.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
GL would not be able to handle what real immigration problems look like…[/quote]
This is my policy for the border. Make a bunch of these, and create a no-man-lands, and then patrol above it with these beasts equiped with anti-personnel weapons.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
How about it, boys? Down for a little diversity tour?
[/quote]
Here’s something we can all agree on.
[quote]3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
I certainly don’t live in california or anywhere like it, but I’m not culturally isolated. I’m not mocking you either, that’s just a funny clip.
The only way to solve the immigrant situation in the u.s. is for our government to help support the Mexican economy. Not just with donations, but we should also be more than willing to work with there government to help create jobs on their side of the border. They are our neighbors after all.
You’re an idiot. In saying this you have demonstrated that you are not entitled to have an opinion on the subject.
Mexico is the 11th biggest economy in the world. The gross per capita of Mexico City, is 30 grand a year USD, and this is a city of 25 million people. Mexico is more than capable of preventing much of the poverty in their country, however, they are run by corrupt oligarchs who do not want to invest into the well being of the lower classes so…they encourage illegal immigration as what would otherwise be a netloss, turns into a profit, amount to about 20 million dollars a year from their illegal invasion of the Norte.
Mexico has no armed forces trying to prevent the illegals from crossing over, yet have garrissons upon garrisons guarding their southern border so they do not have to absorb poorer central americans stialing their jobs and services…ironic isn’t it?
The USA owes Mexico nothing, in the same way, I owe you nothing and you owe me nothing. Noone helped the USA develop itself, the people met the resources, and made their civilization. This is how all nations must be built.
Now cry on your crabcake in your pos pseudo-European state while the rest of us deal with the realities of living in places that have large plebian classes, and not just crusty old living-dead white people who encourage their nephews to fuck eachother in the ass and get married, because those are the kind of life-changing questions you irrelevant New Englanders partricians are so passionate about.[/quote]
I think Mexico would be ok if they could get rid of their corrupt officials there. I know people will yell and say we have corrupt officials, and we certainly do. But their gap between rich and poor is even wider than we have here in the US. I do think it is ironic how the Mexican troops are on their southern border, and Bill O Reilly called Vicente Fox out on it on his show years ago live on the air, and Fox denied it. After the denial, O Reilly showed video of is and shut Fox up in a New York minute.
It is wider, and that is what I’m saying. Mexico is not umpteen poorer than the USA, the problem is their rich are greedy and don’t provide shyt for their lower classes and try to deny upward mobility as much as possible. They’ve turned their issues with social inequity and poverty into a international scam syphoning cash out of th USA into Mexico.
[quote]3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
I think Mexico would be ok if they could get rid of their corrupt officials there. I know people will yell and say we have corrupt officials, and we certainly do. But their gap between rich and poor is even wider than we have here in the US.
It is wider, and that is what I’m saying. Mexico is not umpteen poorer than the USA, the problem is their rich are greedy and don’t provide shyt for their lower classes and try to deny upward mobility as much as possible. They’ve turned their issues with social inequity and poverty into a international scam syphoning cash out of th USA into Mexico.[/quote]
SOCIALIST!
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
I think Mexico would be ok if they could get rid of their corrupt officials there. I know people will yell and say we have corrupt officials, and we certainly do. But their gap between rich and poor is even wider than we have here in the US.
It is wider, and that is what I’m saying. Mexico is not umpteen poorer than the USA, the problem is their rich are greedy and don’t provide shyt for their lower classes and try to deny upward mobility as much as possible. They’ve turned their issues with social inequity and poverty into a international scam syphoning cash out of th USA into Mexico.
SOCIALIST!
;-)[/quote]
Well, at least, I’m a right wing socialist. In the case of Mexico the upper classes did not get there from hardwork, innovation and ability. For the most part they are kleptocrats or descendants of privilege, that just syphon the nation’s wealth into their bank accounts.
That is true, I read somewhere that Mexico’s #2 GDP is the money sent back by illegal aliens in the US, right behind their oil production. I am surprised they have not had a revolution on their own government. Usually, the people are very nice there, they just cannot get anything going because their government provides them no opportunity, along with the drug cartels screwing it up.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
That is true, I read somewhere that Mexico’s #2 GDP is the money sent back by illegal aliens in the US, right behind their oil production. I am surprised they have not had a revolution on their own government. Usually, the people are very nice there, they just cannot get anything going because their government provides them no opportunity, along with the drug cartels screwing it up. [/quote]
If you study in Mexico you can indeed progress. I will not put all the burden of the failure of lower classes on gov’t and wealthy. However, the gov’t does see Illegal Immigration as a column of their poverty mitigation policy. Whether they do so obviously or clandestinely doesn’t really matter, their actions speak louder than their propaganda.
[quote]3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
I think Mexico would be ok if they could get rid of their corrupt officials there. I know people will yell and say we have corrupt officials, and we certainly do. But their gap between rich and poor is even wider than we have here in the US.
It is wider, and that is what I’m saying. Mexico is not umpteen poorer than the USA, the problem is their rich are greedy and don’t provide shyt for their lower classes and try to deny upward mobility as much as possible. They’ve turned their issues with social inequity and poverty into a international scam syphoning cash out of th USA into Mexico.
SOCIALIST!
Well, at least, I’m a right wing socialist. In the case of Mexico the upper classes did not get there from hardwork, innovation and ability. For the most part they are kleptocrats or descendants of privilege, that just syphon the nation’s wealth into their bank accounts.[/quote]
Sounds like the US.