Methyl Masterdrol

My workout & Masterdrol Result Summary.

Hi Gents;

1- As previously mentioned on 04/23, I have compiled my notes and have summarized my results and thought I would share them with you guys. I am 68 and my goals are to stay good shape, and have a healthy lifestyle. I retired in 2000 after working for 44 years for the same company. Traveled on average of 42 weeks per year and never really had time to exercise seriously while on the road other than your normal push-ups, sit-ups and a jog here and there.

2- It wasn?t until I retired that I had the time to exercise a bit more seriously. Once a month I had lunch with some friends to talk good times, etc. After a while all I was hearing was about aches, pains, what type meds is one taking, etc. So, little by little I purchased some equipment until I had what I needed to train on a more consistent basis and have been doing so ever since.

3- With that behind me, this past January I made up a 4-day split routine and based it around a ?12 Week Arm Program? by T-Nation. My planned workout routine started 02/06 through 04/29, that also included a four week LG: Masterdrol (MD) cycle starting on weeks 5 through 8 and PCT weeks 9 through 12. My meals (4-5 meals per day) for the most part were basically clean. My main goal with this four day a week work out program and MD cycle was to add strength, reduce BF and gain any lean hypertrophy I could. I used a lot of variation regarding specific exercises during the 12 weeks. Workout times ranged from 31 to 67 minutes. A typical week was as follows:

MON: Chest/Abs TUES: Arms
WED: Rest THURS: Legs and/or Back
FRI: Shoulders/Abs/Arms-(on weeks 1,4,7,10)

4- My starting weight was 220lbs., BF at 32.3% (see par.10) and I covered all other body parts in this workout as well but, my arms are where I am lacking the most. Since my arm workouts were every Tuesday, I took four evenly spaced additional arm workouts each of which was added on Friday after shoulders. Each of the additional arm workouts was to lift intensely with heavier weights and were done on the 1st,4th, 7th and 10th week workouts. The extra workout during those specific weeks I felt benefited me towards my arm goal of better strength and hypertrophy by using heavier weights. All other weeks had a single weekly session where rep range varied between 5-15 and involved quite a variance based on alternating weeks of Intensity, Volume and Density, using drop sets, extended eccentrics, giant sets, super sets, etc.

5- My daily water intake was approximately 1 to 1-1/2 gallons, at times more. Although I started my MD cycle on a Monday, I pre-loaded MD the Sat. and Sun. before at 20g. During my MD cycle, (20,30,30,30) I experienced minor lower back pains for the first 3 days. After that, the LB pain was gone. For joint pain-See Par 9.

6- During my first week of my MD cycle, I immediately noticed a strength increase but, I think that may have been a placebo effect. I had experienced a few leg cramps during the cycle but, that occurred upon awakening and stretching while in bed; therefore, I don?t think it was the MD because of my water intake. I had no flexibility problems what-so-ever. I had a little loss of libido during the four week MD cycle; however, I just kept taking my Tribulus, Saw Palmetto and 6-OXO, before, during the cycle and PCT. Four days into my PCT, I was back to normal. Also, not mentioned were other supps taken for each workout i.e., CEE, NO, et al.

7- Much has been said about the necessity of taking Nolvadex for gynecomastia when using MD; however, we all react differently and IMPO I didn?t think MD was that strong to include Nolvadex in my PCT. However, I did use Formadrol and 6-OXO among other supps. Other than sides listed above, I had no gyno, lethargy, hair loss or any other issues using MD and again that?s probably because before my MD cycle, I pre-loaded with a percentage of PCT supps and used the same percentage of supps during the MD cycle. The last four weeks of my planned workout routine also included my full PCT.

8- In order to reduce more BF, I eliminated my favorites, i.e., bread, pasta and potatoes during my last six weeks. (I know I should have been doing Cardio but, I hate doing that.) I actually was trying to keep my weight between 220-225 but, by week 9 (start of my PCT), I was at 233. However, during my MD cycle, my strength had increased as much as 30-40% on many of the exercises I did in my routine. Examples are:
Starting -BP-160+64(40%)=224-Ending
SQ 200+70(35%)=270
DL-225+78(35%)=303
CL-125+38(30%)=163

9- As a result of this strength increase, I experienced some joint pain occasionally but, by taking ?Therajoint? by ISS and Omega 3-6-9 oils helped soften the joint aggravation. I know I could have increased the weight on some exercises but, I held off at this point and finished my program and PCT with the increases I had attained. At my age I can?t be too careful, especially when it comes to joints and tendons.

10- I used a Digital Body Fat Caliper (by Accu Fitness) to obtain my overall BF. My starting weight of 220 and BF of 32.3%, (translates to 148.94lbs. lean body wt./ 71.06lbs. BFwt) falls into the ?POOR? category range of the Accu Fitness Chart for my age. After week 9 at 233lbs. my BF% was at 28.5%, (translates to 166.59lbs. lean body wt./ 66.41lbs. BFwt) falls into the ?FAIR? category. My final body weight as of 05/01/06 was 228 lbs. My finishing BF% of 25.7%, (translates to 169.4lbs. lean body wt./ 58.60lbs. BFwt.) which falls into the ?GOOD? category range. The ?VERY GOOD? BF% range for my age is between 20.1-24% according to the chart and the ?EXCELLENT? BF% range for me is 20.0%. To give you a comparison, an 18-24 year old in the EXCELLENT category should have a BF% of 11. I think what I have done so far is not too bad but, as you can see, for total BF, I still have a ways to go. My final results were a loss of 12.46lbs.of BF and a gain of 20.46lbs, of Lean Body Weight.

11- Although I am a hard gainer, as of 05/01/06, I?ve increased my arms by +5/8", Chest+ 1.0? , Shoulders+1-1/4?, Waist - 1-1/2?, Quads+1.0?, Calves+1/2?. Muscle gains and BF reduction get harder to obtain at my age but, I think that what I have gained is not too bad and my muscles are rock hard.

12- This is my second PH cycle that I have tried. Since my last physical and blood work (11/04), I?ve had no abnormalities what-so-ever with reference to WBC/RBC-Platelets/Enzymes-HDL/LDL, PSA, et al. I do believe that was attributed to proper diet, exercise and a good thought out plan for PCT. My next physical and b/w should work out well.

13- I?m taking a few days off and then try and keep the gains I have attained plus try to add a little more. I will put together a routine that will include compound exercises only with extended eccentrics and then return to a more normal routine. Hopefully that should help retain what I have gained.

14- Although I do this for every workout, what helped me immensely throughout this 12 week program, was to keep an organized scheduled outline of my workout, i.e., workout times, reps, sets, rest periods. Also where supplements are concerned, the quantity, dates, time of day supplements were taken, before/after workouts, meals, bedtime, etc.

15- Well, that?s the summary of my 12 week program, together with my cycle of LG: Masterdrol and PCT and I?m proud to say that I did not miss one workout throughout the 12 weeks.

Everyone, have a great day.
jram

Hey i recently heard about methyl masterdrol and i understand that i am only 17 and should not be messin around with this stuff at all but the bottom line is i heard from pro body builders that if you take it for a long period of time it will mess u up but if you take it just one cycle you wont have any permenant damage and it will just be a good experience. i want to try it to get a little bigger and just cycle on it 1 time and thats it never go on it agian. according to the body builder this should be ok if i only cycle once what do you guys think.?

[quote]Dima123 wrote:
Hey i recently heard about methyl masterdrol and i understand that i am only 17 and should not be messin around with this stuff at all but the bottom line is i heard from pro body builders that if you take it for a long period of time it will mess u up but if you take it just one cycle you wont have any permenant damage and it will just be a good experience. i want to try it to get a little bigger and just cycle on it 1 time and thats it never go on it agian. according to the body builder this should be ok if i only cycle once what do you guys think.?[/quote]

What pro body builder advised you to take steroids at 17 years of age?

I’m not a pro, but I’d advise you not to. Wait a few years and let your body grow naturally.

^^^^^^^^^Bump that.

dima dont touch the stuff, way to young, trust me 17 is a very good age to build naturally at, and so are the next few at LEAST.

dumb

Yes i agree taht 17 is a young age but lets say i just cycle only 1 time on it for the experience because i know some people who have done it and they are alright. i mean just 1 time and take light doses like 10-20 mg a day instead of 30 i mean just one cycle to try new things out wont kill me u know… so why not?

Why ask for people’s opinion when you already know what you’re going to do? This is not some run-of-the-mill supplement. It’s serious shit. I’m 30 and have been training naturally for years (on and off b/c of injuries). I have SD in my house but have decided not to do it because of the potential risks vs. rewards. Do youi think those risks would be less for someone your age, who is still growing, and hasn’t finished physically maturing into an adult?

i agree that there are risks and that this isnt a joke but i’m planning on having a good diet with alot of water and only cycle once on it and then anti-estrogen product. everyone always talks about the bad things that can happen but they always think about it long term. No one actually says wut will happen if u just take it for 1 cycle and thats it because i talked to a pro body builder and he said if u only take it for 1 cycle u might see only 1 or 2 threads of hair falling out literally and after finishing your cycle you can get your health back to the way it was originally. So please instead of having 1000 people saying taht this is serious stuff without half of them knowing exactly wut it does can you just give me some good advice of what to do while taking it and when to take it? Because honestly i already pretty much made up my mind and 1 cycle doesnt kill anyone since a bunch of people already took it at this age and way worse then i’m about to take it. I just want to know what kind of diet to have while on this stuff and when exactly to take the pills.

[quote]Dima123 wrote:
i agree that there are risks and that this isnt a joke but i’m planning on having a good diet with alot of water and only cycle once on it and then anti-estrogen product. everyone always talks about the bad things that can happen but they always think about it long term. No one actually says wut will happen if u just take it for 1 cycle and thats it because i talked to a pro body builder and he said if u only take it for 1 cycle u might see only 1 or 2 threads of hair falling out literally and after finishing your cycle you can get your health back to the way it was originally. So please instead of having 1000 people saying taht this is serious stuff without half of them knowing exactly wut it does can you just give me some good advice of what to do while taking it and when to take it? Because honestly i already pretty much made up my mind and 1 cycle doesnt kill anyone since a bunch of people already took it at this age and way worse then i’m about to take it. I just want to know what kind of diet to have while on this stuff and when exactly to take the pills.[/quote]

You know you shouldn’t yet you are.

  1. Your blood profile gets back to normal (how will you do this?)
  2. Your Testosterone production shuts down. (how will you get it to start again)
  3. Your growth can be stunted (do you even care?)
  4. Your BP will get higher, (any idea how to make it so this does not happen?)
  5. Your nuts will shrink a bit (WTF?)
  6. A good percentage of 1 cycle users experience Gyno, the lumpy, sore nipples. (enjoy them)

Come back, then tell us how 1000 guys are wrong. Also read this 1 cycle experience. Halodrol is close to SD:

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1051054

And finally, YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE DUMBASS.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Dima123 wrote:
because i talked to a pro body builder and he said if u only take it for 1 cycle u might see only 1 or 2 threads of hair falling out literally and after finishing your cycle you can get your health back to the way it was originally.
[/quote]

You still haven’t told us what professional bodybuilder told you this was okay.

[quote]
And finally, YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE DUMBASS.[/quote]

Rockscar posted a number of excellent questions that you should consider. To (partially) answer YOUR question, diet isn’t so important as the answers to the questions Rockscar posed. Those are critical with this “supplement.”

But, since you probably won’t answer any of those… I just quoted the most appropriate part of his post.

lets see i dont want to get any taller, i am cycling with formadrol extreme after so taht will get my test level’s back to normal and i am going to check my blood pressure every couple days to see what is going on. i am starting with 1 pill a day and slowly gonna move to 2. i am only going to do this for 3-4 weeks and then cycle with the formadrol extreme.

The body builders name is Chris Caito. so the only thing i have to worry about is gyno and none of the guys that took the product at school have seen it yet so tell me wut the chances are i will mess myself up with 1 cycle since i already started it slowly today.

and also instead of calling me dumb or w/e why cant you just give me some good advice of how to control my blood pressure etc… while taking this prodcut since i’ve already started i’d gladly appreciate this thank you.

Why are prohormones and steroids banned and have such a negative social stigma attached to them? Here is exhibit A…

Ok, here is some help for you. Check these links:

www.tooyoung.com

www.gynoRus.com
www.dosomeresearchyourself.com
www.usethefuckingsearchengine.com

www.whatsPCT?.com
www.lostallmygains.com

now, sarcasm aside, check out the searchengine and look for the old superdrol logs. good info there

good luck

[quote]Dima123 wrote:
and also instead of calling me dumb or w/e why cant you just give me some good advice of how to control my blood pressure etc… while taking this prodcut since i’ve already started i’d gladly appreciate this thank you.[/quote]

Why? Because you are the 5th dumbass to do the same exact thing in this thread.

Please read back…the answers are here, and I’m not feeling good about it at this point.

[quote]Dima123 wrote:
and also instead of calling me dumb or w/e why cant you just give me some good advice of how to control my blood pressure etc… while taking this prodcut since i’ve already started i’d gladly appreciate this thank you.[/quote]

You may also want to consider testicular atrophy at your age. The best thing to do to prevent this problem at your age would be to tightly tie a string around your testicle sack to prevent your testicles from moving upward and shrinking.

[quote]terribleivan wrote:
You may also want to consider testicular atrophy at your age. The best thing to do to prevent this problem at your age would be to tightly tie a string around your testicle sack to prevent your testicles from moving upward and shrinking.[/quote]

I’d be surprised if his testicles had dropped yet.

ok wow you guys are makign this seem as if i’m going to die and screw myself up after 1 cycle rofl. Can i remind you i know people who have taken this at my age and are still fine for one. Two, formadrol extreme gets your test level’s back to normal i dont think anyone can disagree with that…Three, i am only going to be on this for 3-4 weeks and then formadrol extreme for another 3-4 weeks. Four, your balls go back to normal also since at this age you produce so much test but regardless i am going to be on formadrol extreme after. So now tell me if you disagree with anything i just listed.

If you are producing so much test then why the fuck would you want to screw about with it. You just don’t seem to have any concept of the rammifications of what you are about to do. Just because your friends have done it and seem OK doesn’t mean that their internal chemistry isn’t out of whack. By all means try AASs or prohormones when you’re older and your natural Test levels have fallen, but to take them now is a big, BIG mistake.

I understand the pressures you are under as a young guy to be good at sports and to look good for the ladies (or guys if that’s your thing), but be smart. Life’s a marathon, not a sprint. Set yourself goals, research your training and nutritional needs and train hard. And above all enjoy your training, because as you get older you’ll realise that it is the journey, more than the destination, that matters in the end.

Peace,

Tone