Some japanese eat huge amounts of fish. You would assume that they would be the first people to start to experience the adverse effects. Yet i havnt heard anything about it, quite the opposite really.
There are fish other then tuna. Eating a broader range of fish could be a better option.
[quote]miniross wrote:
My understanding of this was that farmed oily fish tend to suffer from this more anyway.
However, with sun damage to skin, alcohol (if ye drink) and any other environmetal contaminent, its a small worry.[/quote]
I think the potential toxicity problem with smaller, oily farmed fish (e.g. salmon) is with possible PCB contamination, not with mercury levels.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Qoute “in August 1989, also in Michigan, four people living in the same house died of
mercury poisoning. The mercury fumes came from dental fillings. The fillings were
heated in the basement in order to extract the silver. Not only did all the occupants
die horrible deaths, but the house in spite of intense decontamination efforts,
remained uninhabitable and had to be demolished.”
Doesn’t sound so benign to me.
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they all died “horrible deaths” and the house had to be demolished. Sounds like bull to me. What reliable news source would write out “died horrible deaths”?
[quote]wressler125 wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
Qoute “in August 1989, also in Michigan, four people living in the same house died of
mercury poisoning. The mercury fumes came from dental fillings. The fillings were
heated in the basement in order to extract the silver. Not only did all the occupants
die horrible deaths, but the house in spite of intense decontamination efforts,
remained uninhabitable and had to be demolished.”
Doesn’t sound so benign to me.
they all died “horrible deaths” and the house had to be demolished. Sounds like bull to me. What reliable news source would write out “died horrible deaths”?[/quote]
The Detroit news, a Knight/Ridder syndication, one the largest in the country.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
wressler125 wrote:
Testy1 wrote:
Qoute “in August 1989, also in Michigan, four people living in the same house died of
mercury poisoning. The mercury fumes came from dental fillings. The fillings were
heated in the basement in order to extract the silver. Not only did all the occupants
die horrible deaths, but the house in spite of intense decontamination efforts,
remained uninhabitable and had to be demolished.”
Doesn’t sound so benign to me.
they all died “horrible deaths” and the house had to be demolished. Sounds like bull to me. What reliable news source would write out “died horrible deaths”?
The Detroit news, a Knight/Ridder syndication, one the largest in the country.[/quote]
Sounded like urban myth BS to me, too but I found it on the Center for Desease Control’s website. Check out Episode 1
So far, I can’t drink or smoke, if I eat too many anti-oxidants I’ll have a heart attack, I can’t drink anything out of a plastic container, the aluminium in deodorant will give me alzhiemers, the beef has too many steriods, the chickens have too many antibiotics, drinking water has too much chlorine in it, air has too much general shit in it to breathe, and now I can’t eat tuna?
I’m going to move to the moon and start again.
Better pack your sunscreen, then.
[quote]Massif wrote:
I’m going to move to the moon and start again.
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[quote]Massif wrote:
So far, I can’t drink or smoke, if I eat too many anti-oxidants I’ll have a heart attack, I can’t drink anything out of a plastic container, the aluminium in deodorant will give me alzhiemers, the beef has too many steriods, the chickens have too many antibiotics, drinking water has too much chlorine in it, air has too much general shit in it to breathe, and now I can’t eat tuna?
I’m going to move to the moon and start again.
[/quote]
Deodorant has aluminum in it? Tell me more.
[quote]Orbitalboner wrote:
Deodorant has aluminum in it? Tell me more.[/quote]
Actually, anti-perspirant has aluminum (usually aluminum chloride) in it, not deoderant. And you really don’t want to know–just another thing to fret about. Unless you Eeyore or something, but you look like a ninja turtle.
Here’s my story. I was eating about a can of tuna per day. Then I had to take three months off from the gym due to tendonitis in my hands. I stayed active. But since I wasn’t lifting, I stopped eating tuna. I don’t especially enjoy it. When I started training again, I ripped open an envelope of tuna that had been in my cupboard for three months, ate it, and promptly broke out in hives over 90 percent of my body and my lips and hands swelled up. I looked pretty nasty. I got tested for food allergies and everything came back negative. So I have always suspected that maybe my liver was having a reaction to the reintroduction of mercury. Of course I can’t prove this. But it’s the best theory I have.
[quote]bino wrote:
Orbitalboner wrote:
Deodorant has aluminum in it? Tell me more.
Actually, anti-perspirant has aluminum (usually aluminum chloride) in it, not deoderant. And you really don’t want to know–just another thing to fret about. Unless you Eeyore or something, but you look like a ninja turtle.
[/quote]
I hope this anti-perspirant scare doesn’t get propageted via the media - that could be one unpleasant summer coming up…
[quote]Sonny S wrote:
—There is a wide variety of foods you can eat without taking the “tuna risk.” Why would anyone want to ingest a known poisonous substance, whent they don’t have to? —
Isn’t it a bit sad or depressing that we are on a message board discussing how much tuna is safe to eat? A toxic pollutant has seriously contaminated our food chain and instead of doing something about it, we talk about switching to anchovies.
Instead of being upset and trying to cure the “disease” of mercury pollution, we cure the “symptom” by silently moving along to another foodstuff.
What needs to be done to improve this situation? I’m going to have to look into donating to groups that are fighting polution/polluters.[/quote]
Right on brother…that mercury didnt just magicaly appear in the flesh of Tuna. Neither did the estrogen in the silt of the delta of the missippi river just appear there.
[quote]Tungsten wrote:
Amalgam Dental fillings are far worse. They’re 50% mercury. Anyway, sardines or canned RED wild salmons are better alternatives than canned tuna which end to be low in fat. [/quote]
Hopefully this will make you feel better about your fillings. Minute amounts of mercury vapors (between 1-3 micrograms per day) may be released from an amalgam under the pressure of chewing which is less than what we are exposed to in food, air and water. There is no evidence that shows this small amount to be harmful. Yes, Mercury is about 45-50% of the compound but the Mercury is not poisonous (it is the mercury vapors that are poisonous). So as mentioned in other posts; Tuna, Sea bass, Marlin and Halibut have some of the worst contaminations of mercury and are much more harmful than an amalgam.
Hope this helps,
RK
Ok all this talk about mercury shit poisoning and what are the side effects if you get it? I eat at least 1 or 2 cans a day. The FDA comes out with something new every week to bitch about you only live once fuck it eat your tuna, eggs, and beef.
[quote]Beatnik wrote:
Some japanese eat huge amounts of fish. You would assume that they would be the first people to start to experience the adverse effects. Yet i havnt heard anything about it, quite the opposite really.
There are fish other then tuna. Eating a broader range of fish could be a better option.[/quote]
dude japan are you serious ?? take your head outta the keruac man . in japan they even have a name for mercury poisoning : minamata disease. named after the harbortown where back in the 50’s or 60’s a few hundred got infected from eating the mercury contaminated fish. it’s still going on. when’s the last time you read a japanese newspaper ?
btw new york state has issued an advisory not eat fish from the adirondack mountain range. that’s all of the lakes in the entire range. almost 6 million acres !that means ya can’t go for hike, start a fire and eat some fish ya just caught. and it’s not like the adirondack state park is an industrial area. mmmmmm mmmmm acid rain !
Although I don’t eat a particularly large amount of tuna, I really don’t worry about it at all. I’m gonna die from something. Why not tuna fish?
[quote]Massif wrote:
So far, I can’t drink or smoke, if I eat too many anti-oxidants I’ll have a heart attack, I can’t drink anything out of a plastic container, the aluminium in deodorant will give me alzhiemers, the beef has too many steriods, the chickens have too many antibiotics, drinking water has too much chlorine in it, air has too much general shit in it to breathe, and now I can’t eat tuna?
I’m going to move to the moon and start again.
[/quote]
Damn straight. Bottom line, you ALL eat a lot of chemicals and other crap. I don’t care how clean you eat. Mercury happens to get a lot of press. There’s plenty of other things we can’t help but ingesting that are no doubt not good for us.
Let’s see what Chuck Poliquin has to say about Mercury contamination in the body:
http://www.bodyofscience.com/issues/winter_2004/pdf/w2005_poliquin.pdf
[quote]WL: You mentioned to me that you got this treatment yourself first for
a medical condition.Do you mind me asking the details surrounding
that?
CP:Not at all. I had a series of heart attacks back in 1994. It was due
to mercury poisoning from my teeth.At first,they thought it was a magnesium
problem,which was true,but it was not the cause.Two of my
brothers died of heart attacks at a young age.You see,with mercury poisoning,
let?s say we both had a level of 50 mercury in the blood,and 3
is the acceptable norm,you might suffer from insomnia and prostate
pain,while I might have heart attacks but we may have the same mercury
dosage.
WL:I do understand that mercury poisoning can cause a very diverse
set of problems.
CP: It depends on which tissues it likes to go to and infect in the body.
There are people that have a mercury level of 18,which isn?t that high,
and they have chronic fatigue syndrome.The more protein you eat,the
more you can mask the mercury poisoning. I have seen a tri-athlete where their performance wasn’t going anywhere. I said, Okay, come and test your mercury", and it came back at 128, which is VERY high. This was a vice president of a major bank, very driven type of lady. We treated her for mercury, and in 6 treatments she’d down to 58. Without change in training, diet or anything, her bodfat went from 18 to 11. It was just from the mercury detox. We have found a lot of people
who can?t get lean no matter what they do.When we check their heavy
metals,they always test positive.Then we detox them depending on what
it is. You know, it?s different depending on whether you?re treating for
nickel,mercury,arsenic,or lead.We give them a detox protocol based
on what they need. If it?s teeth causing mercury, the teeth have to get
fixed first. If you don?t get the teeth fixed,nothing is going to happen.
After we remove the source ofmercury from the body,we treat to eliminate
what?s around.And as their strength start to go up,body fat starts
to go down.Mercury will block the conversion of T-4 to T-3.Basically,
it?s become a standard test that we do with every athlete.It?s amazing how
many people have some issue with heavy metals.
It?s amazing how many
people have some issue with
heavy metals.
WL: Just how common would you say it is?
CP: It?s common especially with guys who
have had a lot of dental work.Hockey players
have the worst teeth in pro sports,so the odds
are greater that they will need to detox for
mercury more so than football players.[/quote]
[quote]Kelly Baggett wrote:
Let’s see what Chuck Poliquin has to say about Mercury contamination in the body:
http://www.bodyofscience.com/issues/winter_2004/pdf/w2005_poliquin.pdf
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I don’t want to start a long debate here but your daily exposure of mercury from your amalgam fillings isnt enough to hurt you. See my post above. Sounds like Charles had some bad fillings to me.
http://www.ada.org/public/media/presskits/fillings/safety.pdf
Later,
TR
I wouldn’t put too much stock in that report or any other safety report sponsored by any other organization simply because they’re trying to save their own ass and are only concerned with averages. For example, it is now abundantly clear their were numerous cover-ups with thimerosol containing vaccines and autism. The FDA never came out and said “alright this shit is causing autism so you need to get it the hell out of your vaccines”. They did however say “we recommend based on potential probability that you guys quit selling this thimerosol vaccine”. Hmmm…what is th eprobablility that they would recommend the stuf be pulled if they didn’t know it was dangerous? The difference in the wording is the difference between 0 and billions of dollars in lawsuits.
Now with amalgams…imagine the lawsuits if some organization did admit there were problems? What’s more all these reports use averages. Individuals aren’t averages. The difference in biochemical indivuality between people is simply amazing. There is little doubt that amalgams increase body mercury levels. The problems occur with sensitivity issues. One example of this is autism…autistics appear to have problems with the elimination of mercury. So you might have individual A who is exposed to 5 times as much mercury as individual B but individual B may have 5 times the mercury levels of individual A. Now what if you’re a “sensitive” person and you’re eating 15 cans of tuna per week, getting jacked up on flue shots and other vaccines each year, AND have a whole mouthful of meta??