[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Words have a gender: masculine, feminine, neuter or indeterminate. People do not have a gender. People have a “sex.” There are two sexes: male and female.[/quote]
For your sake, please don’t ever post that on tumblr.[/quote]
I take it back. Post away.[/quote]
LOL
[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:
There seems something odd, and honestly kind of sad, about men feeling the need to pay for membership into a online club to assert their self-ownership. I can’t imagine my father or grandfather sitting behind a computer, writing forum posts to other men about how autonomous they are and sharing links to things they found around “the manosphere.”
The whole thing sort of reminds me of the skinny guy in high school who constantly talks about how tough he is and how many asses he’s kicked. If you were really a rugged, sovereign, no-nonsense manly-man, I doubt you’d spend much time talking (complaining?) about it on the internet. [/quote]
Not that I dont largely agree with you about this “manosphere shit” but I would say with lots of society becoming increasingly feminized that many men probably don’t feel a sense of community with each other in public and use these online dens as a substitute.
Back in your grandfathers day they had plenty of spaces where men were free to just be men. Nowadays those places are painted as either misogynistic, or homosexual, and most men don’t want to be painted as the first, and they certainly don’t want people to think of them as the second (unless you’re into that sort of thing i guess), so they only places they really socialize are where women are present, which inevitably brings sexual competition in to muddy the waters.
[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
Back in your grandfathers day they had plenty of spaces where men were free to just be men. Nowadays those places are painted as either misogynistic, or homosexual, and most men don’t want to be painted as the first, and they certainly don’t want people to think of them as the second (unless you’re into that sort of thing i guess), so they only places they really socialize are where women are present, which inevitably brings sexual competition in to muddy the waters.[/quote]
I have no problem withe da misoginay, for I can cook better than most women.
There, I said it, I can cook better than most wimminz.
Barefoot.
I also outearn most of them.
Besides being pregnant what can they do I cannot?
Plz educate me.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
Back in your grandfathers day they had plenty of spaces where men were free to just be men. Nowadays those places are painted as either misogynistic, or homosexual, and most men don’t want to be painted as the first, and they certainly don’t want people to think of them as the second (unless you’re into that sort of thing i guess), so they only places they really socialize are where women are present, which inevitably brings sexual competition in to muddy the waters.[/quote]
I have no problem withe da misoginay, for I can cook better than most women.
There, I said it, I can cook better than most wimminz.
Barefoot.
I also outearn most of them.
Besides being pregnant what can they do I cannot?
Plz educate me. [/quote]
Suck cock
[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
Back in your grandfathers day they had plenty of spaces where men were free to just be men. Nowadays those places are painted as either misogynistic, or homosexual, and most men don’t want to be painted as the first, and they certainly don’t want people to think of them as the second (unless you’re into that sort of thing i guess), so they only places they really socialize are where women are present, which inevitably brings sexual competition in to muddy the waters.[/quote]
I have no problem withe da misoginay, for I can cook better than most women.
There, I said it, I can cook better than most wimminz.
Barefoot.
I also outearn most of them.
Besides being pregnant what can they do I cannot?
Plz educate me. [/quote]
Suck cock
[/quote]
The keyword is can.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
Back in your grandfathers day they had plenty of spaces where men were free to just be men. Nowadays those places are painted as either misogynistic, or homosexual, and most men don’t want to be painted as the first, and they certainly don’t want people to think of them as the second (unless you’re into that sort of thing i guess), so they only places they really socialize are where women are present, which inevitably brings sexual competition in to muddy the waters.[/quote]
I have no problem withe da misoginay, for I can cook better than most women.
There, I said it, I can cook better than most wimminz.
Barefoot.
I also outearn most of them.
Besides being pregnant what can they do I cannot?
Plz educate me. [/quote]
Suck cock
[/quote]
The keyword is can.[/quote]
Well, if I put my mind to it, given the average womans performance…
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]ScholesGoals wrote:
Women who are found to have cheated don’t get half first of all.
[/quote]
False.
49 of the 50 states are no-fault divorce. So in 49 states it matters not whether she cheats or not. She gets half plus some.
I know. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, I know.
Time for thee to disengage from the conversation because it’s apparent thou knowest not of what thou speaketh.[/quote]
You and I BOTH know from personal experience, but this guy is gonna sit here and tell us otherwise. Don’t waste your time feeding the trolls, brother. When you gonna come through DC again?
Question for you experienced guys:
I know not to get married based on current marriage laws, BUT how do you avoid common law marriage? Is that a thing in the US as well?
If you live together for 3 years you are considered a common law couple.
Just live separately your whole life from your girlfriend?
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Question for you experienced guys:
I know not to get married based on current marriage laws, BUT how do you avoid common law marriage? Is that a thing in the US as well?
If you live together for 3 years you are considered a common law couple.
Just live separately your whole life from your girlfriend?[/quote]
I don’t know about the US but I assume you could sign a “cohabitation agreement.”
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
Back in your grandfathers day they had plenty of spaces where men were free to just be men. Nowadays those places are painted as either misogynistic, or homosexual, and most men don’t want to be painted as the first, and they certainly don’t want people to think of them as the second (unless you’re into that sort of thing i guess), so they only places they really socialize are where women are present, which inevitably brings sexual competition in to muddy the waters.[/quote]
I have no problem withe da misoginay, for I can cook better than most women.
There, I said it, I can cook better than most wimminz.
Barefoot.
I also outearn most of them.
Besides being pregnant what can they do I cannot?
Plz educate me. [/quote]
Suck cock
[/quote]
The keyword is can.[/quote]
Well, if I put my mind to it, given the average womans performance…[/quote]
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Question for you experienced guys:
I know not to get married based on current marriage laws, BUT how do you avoid common law marriage? Is that a thing in the US as well?
If you live together for 3 years you are considered a common law couple.
Just live separately your whole life from your girlfriend?[/quote]
In Ontario it’s MONTHS, not years man. Don’t ever let them move in. Ever.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Question for you experienced guys:
I know not to get married based on current marriage laws, BUT how do you avoid common law marriage? Is that a thing in the US as well?
If you live together for 3 years you are considered a common law couple.
Just live separately your whole life from your girlfriend?[/quote]
I’d get that kind of legal advice from an attorney who is more versed in the laws of your jurisdiction. But I have read that you have to actually “break up” and she has to move out (documented) and then get back together in a month. Seriously, this “common law” nonsense is outrageous.
[quote]ScholesGoals wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]ScholesGoals wrote:
Women who are found to have cheated don’t get half first of all.
[/quote] What planet do YOU live on? https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080827162413AAyCL1U
So, you’re a feminist. How’s that working for you? I’m not interested in arguing with a liberal idealist, cuz I’m wasting my time. How old are you?
Talk to me in a few decades and we’ll see how your opinion has evolved.[/quote]
No I am not a feminist. I just acknowledge historical and current realities.
You have no desire to debate because there is nothing to debate, women have been and are currently systematically discriminated against. That isn’t a debatable point;
Rape
Domestic abuse
Pay gap
Work harassment
Abortion (only winning the right recently in history, shaming people who use this medical procedure, attempts to ban it
Slut shaming
Victim blaming
ETC
ETC ETC
Let me guess racism isn’t a problem anymore either?
Edit.
Just saw your first response you sourced from yahoo answers, quite fitting.
If you can prove someone cheated you have no financial responsibility to them only to any child you are responsible for.
The same as you can’t be sent to prison for a crime without proof. Also an answer on the yahoo answers post you linked a woman describes her female boss and her cheating husband getting half.
So it’s not a gender issue but a shitty court one.
Also unless you want courts sending people to prison without proof why would they decide divorce settlements without proof?[/quote]
Maybe it’s different state side, but up here in Canada there is no burden of proof (as required to convict in criminal proceedings) in family court, and no fault divorce means that ya, cheaters get treated the same as non-cheaters. Child support in this country also has allimony built right in. It exists to “equalize the standard of living”. Which it does a piss poor job of, because the feminist studies / surveys they used to get the data use false data from the 1970s to “prove” that the standard of living in a man’s home goes up after divorce and in a woman’s home goes down (think that through logically, and it shouldn’t take much for you to realize that it goes down for BOTH).
As for the rest…
Rape - Men get raped too. Both by women, and by other men.
Domestic abuse - Men get abused too. Financial, emotional, physical…
Pay gap - as has been said, this is a myth, and makes no sense at all from a business owner’s perspective. Workers get paid as little as possible and not a penny more regardless of gender. If I can hire a woman to do the “same job” as a man for less pay I will hire a woman ten times out of ten.
Work harassment - See rape above.
Abortion (only winning the right recently in history, shaming people who use this medical procedure, attempts to ban it) - Woman gets pregnant “I don’t want it”= pro choice. Man gets woman pregnant “I don’t want it” = deadbeat dad. See the problem?
Slut shaming - Men have the reverse. If you’re not fucking chicks left and right you’re a loser.
Victim blaming - Not a gender issue. Men are expected to take personal responsability for their own safety moreso than any woman. See abortion above.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]ScholesGoals wrote:
Women who are found to have cheated don’t get half first of all.
[/quote]
False.
49 of the 50 states are no-fault divorce. So in 49 states it matters not whether she cheats or not. She gets half plus some.
I know. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, I know.
Time for thee to disengage from the conversation because it’s apparent thou knowest not of what thou speaketh.[/quote]
Yep. I’m going through it right now in Cali.
My son is 11. For 9 years I was his primary caregiver, drop off and pick up at school, all care till mom came home, all doctor/dentist/school appointments done by me. 95% of all sick days I stayed home with him and I paid either all, more than half or half the bills and I have to fight like a dog to get to see him half the time.
After 9 months I finally got Joint Legal/Joint Physical BUT I still see him less then 50%. The knee jerk reaction of judges is to give the mother more. ALWAYS. No matter the cheating, no matter she initiated the divorce, no matter I was able to prove the allegations of abuse to both her and the child were false. No matter what, really.
They rarely listen to the father. If you have a soon to be ex-wife that wants to make your life miserable she will have a lot more tools available to her then you do to protect yourself from it.
She can accuse you of abuse and even when proven it is a lie, she will merely get a verbal slap on the wrist. They can allege abuse of your child and claim “I just wanted to make sure” and nothing will happen.
You try that as the father and you’ll get your ass handed to you.
Financially they too get the upper hand until the trial. 90% of the time the husband has to move out and pay for his new living accommodations as well as help her maintain her standard of living.
It’s a mess for men and it’s totally understandable that young men are opting out.
[quote]ScholesGoals wrote:
Abortion…medical procedure
[/quote]
Abortion is just a medical condition that’s fixable now. Like an operable tumor, right?
Smh…
[quote]ScholesGoals wrote:
Are men being told by women what they can and can’t do with their body and trying to make it against the law to do with it as you see fit?
[/quote]
Um, let’s see. The answer is yes.
So statistically half the abortions every year are performed on male babies. So, I would say the woman carrying the child, choosing that the male child can’t even live is certainly being told what he can and can’t do with his body, not just now, but forever, and in every way.
Also, half the kids in the world are male… So every single mother is in fact telling males what they can do with their body for 14ish or so years depending on the child. ANd most people, men and women, have no problem making things illegal for people under the age of 18 to do things.
[quote]ScholesGoals wrote:
Abortion (only winning the right recently in history, shaming people who use [/quote]
“right”
You keep using that word, but I don’t think you know what that word means.