[quote]The Greek wrote:
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
Who needs SAMA anyway[/quote]
x9000[/quote]
Fuck u x-9000
Gimme my SAMA back.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
I think some of you fellas are making a bit much of the ‘high IQ’ thing…unless, perhaps, in America it’s quite routine for people to waltz around blabbering on about such things. Just a thought.[/quote]
It is very common among college aged kids, especially ones in college. I deal with people like the OP all the time and the simple fact that he felt the need to mention it at all tells me a LOT about him.[/quote]
What does that tell you about people like him who’re in college that mention it? Is it a hindrance or something?
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]darkhorse1-1 wrote:
I need to learn how to meet women. When I was in high school they came to me because I guess I looked good enough for that to happen. I used that as a crutch instead of developing my game. No my hair is gone and I can’t use looks to get women. I don’t party. I’m not a real go getter when it comes to meeting regular friends either. I usually let them come to me.
Here’s what I’m working with:
1: lack good looks
2: stratospherically high functioning schizo-ish mental health problem
3: I don’t talk to people. I let them come talk to me
4: psychologists tell me that I have very high IQ
I want to:
meet a ton of women, become good friends with them and then bang all their hot friends[/quote]
Get yourself a great sense of humour and a good working, big thick cock.
Good luck.
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Best advice ever! Should be a sticky–Be funny and deliver proper cocking.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
I think some of you fellas are making a bit much of the ‘high IQ’ thing…unless, perhaps, in America it’s quite routine for people to waltz around blabbering on about such things. Just a thought.[/quote]
It is very common among college aged kids, especially ones in college. I deal with people like the OP all the time and the simple fact that he felt the need to mention it at all tells me a LOT about him.[/quote]
Fair enough I suppose, if that’s been your experience.
I just tend to find the reactions people sometimes get for saying such things are a lil over the top. I mean, the guy may well have been implying that his high IQ/perceived intelligence etc is more a hindrance as opposed to a help.
I remember I once got jumped on pretty much instantaneously for having had the temerity to reveal my IQ on a thread entitled: Do you know your IQ & if so what is it?<<< LOL.
People don’t, for example tend to get the same reaction when they reveal how tall they are, even though their tallness may well be less statistically frequent than their IQ.
Tis one of life’s little oddities IMO.
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
I think some of you fellas are making a bit much of the ‘high IQ’ thing…unless, perhaps, in America it’s quite routine for people to waltz around blabbering on about such things. Just a thought.[/quote]
It is very common among college aged kids, especially ones in college. I deal with people like the OP all the time and the simple fact that he felt the need to mention it at all tells me a LOT about him.[/quote]
Fair enough I suppose, if that’s been your experience.
I just tend to find the reactions people sometimes get for saying such things are a lil over the top. I mean, the guy may well have been implying that his high IQ/perceived intelligence etc is more a hindrance as opposed to a help.
I remember I once got jumped on pretty much instantaneously for having had the temerity to reveal my IQ on a thread entitled: Do you know your IQ & if so what is it?<<< LOL.
People don’t, for example tend to get the same reaction when they reveal how tall they are, even though their tallness may well be less statistically frequent than their IQ.
Tis one of life’s little oddities IMO. [/quote]
If you have to tell people you are smart, funny, handsome, and so on, you are probably not.
To the OP, be confident and you’ll get what you want. Be arrogant and you’ll get what you deserve.
[quote]TheKraken wrote:
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
I think some of you fellas are making a bit much of the ‘high IQ’ thing…unless, perhaps, in America it’s quite routine for people to waltz around blabbering on about such things. Just a thought.[/quote]
It is very common among college aged kids, especially ones in college. I deal with people like the OP all the time and the simple fact that he felt the need to mention it at all tells me a LOT about him.[/quote]
Fair enough I suppose, if that’s been your experience.
I just tend to find the reactions people sometimes get for saying such things are a lil over the top. I mean, the guy may well have been implying that his high IQ/perceived intelligence etc is more a hindrance as opposed to a help.
I remember I once got jumped on pretty much instantaneously for having had the temerity to reveal my IQ on a thread entitled: Do you know your IQ & if so what is it?<<< LOL.
People don’t, for example tend to get the same reaction when they reveal how tall they are, even though their tallness may well be less statistically frequent than their IQ.
Tis one of life’s little oddities IMO. [/quote]
If you have to tell people you are smart, funny, handsome, and so on, you are probably not.
To the OP, be confident and you’ll get what you want. Be arrogant and you’ll get what you deserve. [/quote]
I disagree…I don’t really see how anyone can infer so much from just ONE arguably egocentric statement.
I mean, if the OP goes up to girls & blurts out stuff like: Hey baby, my IQ 167, you COULD try fuck my brains out bebeh, but it may take a while!!!
OR
If someone always yammers on about such things then yeah, I’d agree they are more than likely full of shit.
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
Fair enough I suppose, if that’s been your experience.
I just tend to find the reactions people sometimes get for saying such things are a lil over the top. I mean, the guy may well have been implying that his high IQ/perceived intelligence etc is more a hindrance as opposed to a help. [/quote]
It doesn’t really matter what way he perceived his intelligence to be, everything that was said about not needing a high IQ to get laid works on reverse as well: You do not need an average IQ to get laid either. What is more important is that you have a personality that the woman you are after likes and having a big dick or a lot of money doesn’t hurt either.
[quote]
I remember I once got jumped on pretty much instantaneously for having had the temerity to reveal my IQ on a thread entitled: Do you know your IQ & if so what is it?<<< LOL. [/quote]
That was a stupid idea for a thread. I would not have posted my IQ in that thread, even though I do know what it is simply because it does not matter. IQ is pretty damn meaningless overall. What matters is what you do with your intelligence. If someone has an IQ of 170 but doesn’t study and fails out of college (and this does happen, my first roommate in grad school had an IQ of over 190, which is higher then mine but he never studied or did homework problems and failed out after two semesters. He got a job as a lab assistant, which is probably what he is still doing today.) I have seen people with more average IQs (100-120) complete doctorates and go on to do major research and make real advancements in science and engineering.
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People don’t, for example tend to get the same reaction when they reveal how tall they are, even though their tallness may well be less statistically frequent than their IQ. [/quote]
When someone brings up their IQ, and it is higher then the person’s they are talking too, it comes off like you are trying to say you are smarter then them, even if you aren’t. It is also wrong to think that having a high IQ makes you smart, because it doesn’t. What you have a high IQ but wind up working as a burger flipper at McDonald’s because you never studied and dropped out of school, are people going to view you as smart? No. If you have a more average IQ but invent something like the personal computer and start a company, let’s call it Apple, and thus have a major part to play in a technological revolution are people going to think you are smart? Yes. If you are smart people will notice without you ever having to tell them your IQ just by talking to you, there is never a need to tell people how smart you are or how high your IQ is, ever.
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. A lot of people see modesty or even self-deprecation as a virtue & I don’t.
Also, even if you view modesty as a lesser virtue, of all of the things you could judge a person off of, a bit of (maybe arrogance) is WAY down the list IMO.
Avoid ridiculous extremes & all will be good.
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. A lot of people see modesty or even self-deprecation as a virtue & I don’t.
Also, even if you view modesty as a lesser virtue, of all of the things you could judge a person off of, a bit of (maybe arrogance) is WAY down the list IMO.
Avoid ridiculous extremes & all will be good. [/quote]
It is not really about modesty. If you value intelligence and want people to perceive you as intelligent, even to the point of pointing out your intelligence to them, that is fine, but bringing up your IQ is not the way to go, nobody will ever care about your IQ. Your intellectual accomplishments are something that you could bring up to establish yourself as smart. You could mention the degrees you have, your GPA, material you have published in reputable journals, the advancements you have made in your field, etc. If you haven’t accomplished anything intellectually that sets you apart from the average population, then you aren’t really smart no matter what IQ you have. You will still likely get much the same reaction from people but at least you will be mentioning achievements that do define you as intelligent, not some meaningless test that is no indicator of anything really.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. A lot of people see modesty or even self-deprecation as a virtue & I don’t.
Also, even if you view modesty as a lesser virtue, of all of the things you could judge a person off of, a bit of (maybe arrogance) is WAY down the list IMO.
Avoid ridiculous extremes & all will be good. [/quote]
It is not really about modesty. If you value intelligence and want people to perceive you as intelligent, even to the point of pointing out your intelligence to them, that is fine, but bringing up your IQ is not the way to go, nobody will ever care about your IQ. Your intellectual accomplishments are something that you could bring up to establish yourself as smart. You could mention the degrees you have, your GPA, material you have published in reputable journals, the advancements you have made in your field, etc. If you haven’t accomplished anything intellectually that sets you apart from the average population, then you aren’t really smart no matter what IQ you have. You will still likely get much the same reaction from people but at least you will be mentioning achievements that do define you as intelligent, not some meaningless test that is no indicator of anything really.[/quote]
Why be so self-conscious though?..I mean really, so what if the odd person thinks you are arrogant over ONE comment…so what!!!
I could assume (for example), that since you are Dr, you consider yourself to be intellectually superior to most & well…maybe you are, maybe you aren’t, maybe you do, maybe you don’t. I don’t really think it makes much difference either way (at least not to me personally it doesn’t).
Why attach so much importance to so little?
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
fuck 9? lol[/quote]
Trust me. It’s nothing to some of them, man.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
If you are smart people will notice without you ever having to tell them your IQ just by talking to you, there is never a need to tell people how smart you are or how high your IQ is, ever.
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^^QFT
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
Why be so self-conscious though?..I mean really, so what if the odd person thinks you are arrogant over ONE comment…so what!!!
I could assume (for example), that since you are Dr, you consider yourself to be intellectually superior to most & well…maybe you are, maybe you aren’t, maybe you do, maybe you don’t. I don’t really think it makes much difference either way (at least not to me personally it doesn’t).
Why attach so much importance to so little?
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One answer is because other people do, and don’t try to say something like “I don’t care what other people think of me” because you do, we all do. If you didn’t care what people think then you wouldn’t talk to them and you wouldn’t mention attributes about yourself to them at all. Most people do not care about IQ, and in this case the majority is right. If someone calls me stupid, I don’t mention my IQ, which is very high, I mention how many degrees I have, especially the PhD, I mention my research and the contributions I have made in the world of physics. It is much harder to argue against those accomplishments then to argue about IQ’s.
And yes, I do consider myself to be intellectually superior to most in some respects, and in others I am average or less. I would be lying if I said I didn’t, but that doesn’t mean I am an expert on everything or that I need to point out my intelligence to everyone or that I am overall better then anyone. I have spent my life developing my skills in physics and mathematics, and my education and accomplishments attest to that. In those fields I am at the top as far as knowledge and expertise and thus I am intellectually superior to most in those fields. In the field of biology I know next to nothing and have no accomplishments in that field so if I was in an argument about biology my intelligence and education would be meaningless so there is no point in even mentioning them.
Another example: If I were having a discussion with another member on here about lifting, let us say it is Professor X, and we disagreed, who do you think has a better chance of being taken seriously him, who is much larger than me and obviously knows more about lifting and has more experience, or me who has been lifting about three years and is not nearly as impressive as him? Would it matter to anyone if we compared IQ’s and mine was higher? Would it matter that I have more degrees than him, and mine is a scientific doctorate and his is a trade doctorate? Would it matter if it was somehow established without a shadow of a doubt (which it cannot) that I am smarter then him? No it would not so why even bother bringing it up.
All that matters is one’s accomplishments in a field. I could care less if someone has a higher IQ then me, which not many do. It is one’s accomplishments in a field that determine their knowledge and perceived intelligence. One more example: let’s compare me with Einstein. His IQ has been estimated at between 160 and 180. If that is true then it is possible that mine is higher, so does that mean I am smarter then Einstein? No it doesn’t. When you compare our accomplishments, his are far greater then mine. Even though my accomplishments in the world of physics, they cannot compare to his so any way you measure intelligence outside of this IQ BS, he is smarter then me.
You see my point here? No matter what, if you want to come across as knowledgeable, and thus smart, a high IQ is meaningless. It takes years of dedicated study and experience to be considered knowledgeable. If someone with a high IQ doesn’t want to do that, then their IQ is meaningless. A high IQ may help in that endeavor, but if you never put in the time and effort to become an expert on something, anything, a high IQ means jack squat. You are just the same as far as knowledge in any field you are discussing as anyone else, and even if you do become an expert in a field, like in my case physics, you are only “smart” in that field. It doesn’t mean that you will be an expert in any other field and no IQ will just magically impart knowledge into your head to make you smart in a subject. This is why people care more about what kind of education and experience you have. When I was arguing about radiactive dating methods on a thread here a while back, I wasn’t asked what my IQ was, I was asked what made me an expert on particle physics, and I shared my credentials. It doesn’t matter to me if you have an IQ of 167, I will still go to an engineer when I need some specialized equipment designed for my experiments and I will listen to an engineer with an IQ of 100 over some random guy with a higher IQ who has no knowledge or experience in that field.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
IQ is pretty damn meaningless overall. What matters is what you do with your intelligence. If someone has an IQ of 170 but doesn’t study and fails out of college (and this does happen, my first roommate in grad school had an IQ of over 190, which is higher then mine but he never studied or did homework problems and failed out after two semesters. He got a job as a lab assistant, which is probably what he is still doing today.) I have seen people with more average IQs (100-120) complete doctorates and go on to do major research and make real advancements in science and engineering.[/quote]
This is interesting though. Since you have so much experience with younger kids who have high IQs but do nothing with them and dropout, what do you think is the reason for this? Lack of discipline? Lack of ambition or knowing what they want to do with their lives? Lack of drive? What is it they don’t have?
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Get yourself a great sense of humour and a good working, big thick cock.
[/quote]
In my experience, this is the key.
[/quote]
Bullshit.
She forgot the money.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Get yourself a great sense of humour and a good working, big thick cock.
[/quote]
In my experience, this is the key.
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Bullshit.
She forgot the money.[/quote]
You need money because you have no sense of humor.
I’m sure you penis is massive but you aren’t very funny.
Getting back to the original topic…
OP, one thing you might want to try. Go spend some time in a strip club on a slow night. Don’t fall easily for the “want to get a lap dance” ruse. If the girls are any good at what they do, they’ll be half naked, sitting in your lap, chatting you up. Learn how to have conversations in that situation about the most mundane topics; keep her smiling and laughing if you can. The key is to keep your brain working when you’re in an overwhelmingly compromised position. Also pay attention to how she approaches the conversation; she doesn’t know a thing about you, she probably can’t relate to you, but she’ll try to start a conversation and keep it going. You can use those same techniques with any girl.
Also, if a girl spends time with you like that, at the very least, tip her when she goes on stage. A lap dance + tip is a better choice if you can afford it. Watch your spending, and use it as a learning opportunity; not a substitute for conversations with “real” women.
Final word of advice, don’t date a stripper. If she’s any good, you’ll walk out of there thinking it’s a good idea. But it’s not.
[quote]bignate wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I will rip all of you apart with my dick and strap on.
I double penetrate by my damn self[/quote]
id be impressed if you could fill every orifice on the female body at once. [/quote]
Noseplugs
Warplugs
Ballgag
Blindfold
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
Why be so self-conscious though?..I mean really, so what if the odd person thinks you are arrogant over ONE comment…so what!!!
I could assume (for example), that since you are Dr, you consider yourself to be intellectually superior to most & well…maybe you are, maybe you aren’t, maybe you do, maybe you don’t. I don’t really think it makes much difference either way (at least not to me personally it doesn’t).
Why attach so much importance to so little?
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One answer is because other people do, and don’t try to say something like “I don’t care what other people think of me” because you do, we all do. If you didn’t care what people think then you wouldn’t talk to them and you wouldn’t mention attributes about yourself to them at all. Most people do not care about IQ, and in this case the majority is right. If someone calls me stupid, I don’t mention my IQ, which is very high, I mention how many degrees I have, especially the PhD, I mention my research and the contributions I have made in the world of physics. It is much harder to argue against those accomplishments then to argue about IQ’s.
And yes, I do consider myself to be intellectually superior to most in some respects, and in others I am average or less. I would be lying if I said I didn’t, but that doesn’t mean I am an expert on everything or that I need to point out my intelligence to everyone or that I am overall better then anyone. I have spent my life developing my skills in physics and mathematics, and my education and accomplishments attest to that. In those fields I am at the top as far as knowledge and expertise and thus I am intellectually superior to most in those fields. In the field of biology I know next to nothing and have no accomplishments in that field so if I was in an argument about biology my intelligence and education would be meaningless so there is no point in even mentioning them.
Another example: If I were having a discussion with another member on here about lifting, let us say it is Professor X, and we disagreed, who do you think has a better chance of being taken seriously him, who is much larger than me and obviously knows more about lifting and has more experience, or me who has been lifting about three years and is not nearly as impressive as him? Would it matter to anyone if we compared IQ’s and mine was higher? Would it matter that I have more degrees than him, and mine is a scientific doctorate and his is a trade doctorate? Would it matter if it was somehow established without a shadow of a doubt (which it cannot) that I am smarter then him? No it would not so why even bother bringing it up.
All that matters is one’s accomplishments in a field. I could care less if someone has a higher IQ then me, which not many do. It is one’s accomplishments in a field that determine their knowledge and perceived intelligence. One more example: let’s compare me with Einstein. His IQ has been estimated at between 160 and 180. If that is true then it is possible that mine is higher, so does that mean I am smarter then Einstein? No it doesn’t. When you compare our accomplishments, his are far greater then mine. Even though my accomplishments in the world of physics, they cannot compare to his so any way you measure intelligence outside of this IQ BS, he is smarter then me.
You see my point here? No matter what, if you want to come across as knowledgeable, and thus smart, a high IQ is meaningless. It takes years of dedicated study and experience to be considered knowledgeable. If someone with a high IQ doesn’t want to do that, then their IQ is meaningless. A high IQ may help in that endeavor, but if you never put in the time and effort to become an expert on something, anything, a high IQ means jack squat. You are just the same as far as knowledge in any field you are discussing as anyone else, and even if you do become an expert in a field, like in my case physics, you are only “smart” in that field. It doesn’t mean that you will be an expert in any other field and no IQ will just magically impart knowledge into your head to make you smart in a subject. This is why people care more about what kind of education and experience you have. When I was arguing about radiactive dating methods on a thread here a while back, I wasn’t asked what my IQ was, I was asked what made me an expert on particle physics, and I shared my credentials. It doesn’t matter to me if you have an IQ of 167, I will still go to an engineer when I need some specialized equipment designed for my experiments and I will listen to an engineer with an IQ of 100 over some random guy with a higher IQ who has no knowledge or experience in that field.
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‘One answer is because other people do’
See, for me, ^that’s^ just plain weak…understandable in many ways, though, ultimately not useful. I find the more I rid my mind of such self-conscious values, the happier I am.
With regards what having a high IQ means, I tend to agree. It is just one of a number of measures of intellectual potential. It can make for an interesting topic for debate though.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]GorillaMon wrote:
Why be so self-conscious though?..I mean really, so what if the odd person thinks you are arrogant over ONE comment…so what!!!
I could assume (for example), that since you are Dr, you consider yourself to be intellectually superior to most & well…maybe you are, maybe you aren’t, maybe you do, maybe you don’t. I don’t really think it makes much difference either way (at least not to me personally it doesn’t).
Why attach so much importance to so little?
[/quote]
One answer is because other people do, and don’t try to say something like “I don’t care what other people think of me” because you do, we all do. If you didn’t care what people think then you wouldn’t talk to them and you wouldn’t mention attributes about yourself to them at all. Most people do not care about IQ, and in this case the majority is right. If someone calls me stupid, I don’t mention my IQ, which is very high, I mention how many degrees I have, especially the PhD, I mention my research and the contributions I have made in the world of physics. It is much harder to argue against those accomplishments then to argue about IQ’s.
And yes, I do consider myself to be intellectually superior to most in some respects, and in others I am average or less. I would be lying if I said I didn’t, but that doesn’t mean I am an expert on everything or that I need to point out my intelligence to everyone or that I am overall better then anyone. I have spent my life developing my skills in physics and mathematics, and my education and accomplishments attest to that. In those fields I am at the top as far as knowledge and expertise and thus I am intellectually superior to most in those fields. In the field of biology I know next to nothing and have no accomplishments in that field so if I was in an argument about biology my intelligence and education would be meaningless so there is no point in even mentioning them.
Another example: If I were having a discussion with another member on here about lifting, let us say it is Professor X, and we disagreed, who do you think has a better chance of being taken seriously him, who is much larger than me and obviously knows more about lifting and has more experience, or me who has been lifting about three years and is not nearly as impressive as him? Would it matter to anyone if we compared IQ’s and mine was higher? Would it matter that I have more degrees than him, and mine is a scientific doctorate and his is a trade doctorate? Would it matter if it was somehow established without a shadow of a doubt (which it cannot) that I am smarter then him? No it would not so why even bother bringing it up.
All that matters is one’s accomplishments in a field. I could care less if someone has a higher IQ then me, which not many do. It is one’s accomplishments in a field that determine their knowledge and perceived intelligence. One more example: let’s compare me with Einstein. His IQ has been estimated at between 160 and 180. If that is true then it is possible that mine is higher, so does that mean I am smarter then Einstein? No it doesn’t. When you compare our accomplishments, his are far greater then mine. Even though my accomplishments in the world of physics, they cannot compare to his so any way you measure intelligence outside of this IQ BS, he is smarter then me.
You see my point here? No matter what, if you want to come across as knowledgeable, and thus smart, a high IQ is meaningless. It takes years of dedicated study and experience to be considered knowledgeable. If someone with a high IQ doesn’t want to do that, then their IQ is meaningless. A high IQ may help in that endeavor, but if you never put in the time and effort to become an expert on something, anything, a high IQ means jack squat. You are just the same as far as knowledge in any field you are discussing as anyone else, and even if you do become an expert in a field, like in my case physics, you are only “smart” in that field. It doesn’t mean that you will be an expert in any other field and no IQ will just magically impart knowledge into your head to make you smart in a subject. This is why people care more about what kind of education and experience you have. When I was arguing about radiactive dating methods on a thread here a while back, I wasn’t asked what my IQ was, I was asked what made me an expert on particle physics, and I shared my credentials. It doesn’t matter to me if you have an IQ of 167, I will still go to an engineer when I need some specialized equipment designed for my experiments and I will listen to an engineer with an IQ of 100 over some random guy with a higher IQ who has no knowledge or experience in that field.
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I like you lol. The point you brought up about your roommate re-enforces my previous statement about strengths and weaknesses meaning more than the raw average. I know people who, while are very smart, certainly aren’t 190 (at least as far as I know) and literally ace everything with hardly any studying. I can ace a physics exam with no studying, but that’s because the concepts are already ingrained and physics allows more flexibility in its mechanics. Now of course if you friend failed due to attendance like I have done before (misjudged the professor and his method) that’s a different story entirely and still brings us to the acknowledgement of weaknesses. I wouldn’t share my IQ unless asked especially since I think my mind is more developed than the score suggests since I’m a poor test taker.