Medicinal Marijuana

Not surprising that recreational use is growing faster as there are more healthy people who want the choice than sick people who need it for medical purposes.

If alcohol is legal, what is your justification for keeping marijuana illegal?

I rarely smoke, but think people ought to be given the choice. And to keep it from people who need it for medicinal purposes is barbaric.

I don’t know. I’ve had nothing to do with either decision.

I haven’t smoked in 20 years, but I know many people that do. I consider the jury to still be out on its medical applications other than a vague ā€œhelps one feel betterā€ in what ever way that may be. I’m just not on board with relatively mundane substances being arbitrarily determined to be legal or illegal, then everything that follows from that.

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My sister in law has Severe epilepsy. She has an implant in her neck to ward off seizures. Shes has been prescribed a mountain of pills that they are finally realizing were HURTING.

Here in MN you can get CBD, but insurance doesnt cover it (thank you pharmaceutical lobbyists). She was using CBD for a while and it was working wonders for her. It was too expensive and she couldn’t afford to keep doing it ($300/mo)

Her and her husband are not stoners…like at all, but all he had to say was that it was working very well, not barely, or maybe, but absolutely yes.

The end.

LOL - not sure why you getting the blame here. (but if you are responsible, could you look into it for us?)

Regarding medical use, yes, it treats symptoms rather than curing.

But like @carbiduis sister in law, check out the success in treating Dravets Syndrome (severe epilepsy) Google Charlotte Figi and Dravet.
For laughs - If you check the videos you will find a number of senior medical figures questioning whether the kids with this condition might be ā€œactingā€ to pretend the oils work and expressing concern about what the CBD oil may be doing to them and their development ( severe cases destroys development, so… )

Also some really interesting work around Parkinsons where the the sufferer has severe Ataxia resulting from reaction to the dopamine (there is a finite time where current drugs can be used, decreasing effectiveness requiring increasing dosage and consequent adverse effects).
Funniest reactions from ex-police officers using it for the first time. (sorry, can’t recall names - must be the weed from 25 years ago affecting my memory)
Both treatments CBD based, so not like the patients even get to get high.

Now if you could get back to us all on the legal status, that would be grand.

Cheers

I’m pretty confident everyone in this thread, minus the moron that started it, just wants to verify the medicinal benefits of marijuana before using it as a treatment nationwide. If it can help with PTSD or epilepsy or whatever that’s great, we should use it, but we have an FDA for a reason.

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You can have an opinion on the subject without being involved with the legal aspect.

If you read the articles and literature out on it’s effectiveness you’d realize the majority of the evidence is positive, So while the derelict politicians may be against it that doesn’t change the fact that many people are finding medicinal relief with the substance.

There is more than just vague personal testimonials saying it helps them feel better. It works better than drugs from Big Pharma sometimes and that fact scares them as they don’t want people to have the choice. As they fear it could cut into their profits and that is what is important in our healthcare system.

Yeah an FDA with a revolving door with Big Pharma.

There are other studies as well.

I’m actually quite in favor of it being legalized, FDA or not. I think Skys would agree but not sure and don’t want to speak for him–my interpretation of this train wreck is that Zep is just doing his thing and yelling about BIG PHARM and everyone else is just feeding him for kicks, while they actually are pretty much fine with stopping the war over Mary jane

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Part of my message, as muddy as it may be, particularly with Zep is ā€œPut your money where your mouth is. That is how the real work gets done. Big companies that pay lawyers and lobbyists and have Judges and Senators on their boards exerting real political influence are what makes headway, not fly by night MLM flunkies and pseudo-scientific gurus.ā€

He’s just too fearful of the profit motive to actually see these companies as the agents of change that have and will continue to bring about what he is actually screaming for.

They’re publicly traded. Start a scottrade account. Buy into them.

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You mean recreationally? I’m fine with that.

*I see two separate issues. Recreational use of Marijuana, which I’m fine with and medicinal marijuana, which I’m fine with as well, but I’d like to see it go through the appropriate testing.

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Recreational use should be legal.

Medicinal use (as in, a doctor prescribing that someone take a specific dosage for a specific purpose) should be tested so people know what the likelihood of benefit for their specific condition is.

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If recreational use is legalized, medicinal doesn’t matter. Doctors don’t have to prescribe water for you to drink it. Medicinal use only matters when a substance is otherwise prohibited.

That is where I’m optimistic but dubious. Its like the wild west at this point with various concoctions and speculation. Some things work, some don’t, some might- and their really isn’t much known on what or why.

I thought about this, and I see where you’re coming from, but don’t (totally) agree.

Sure, if it is legal for recreational use, people will be free to self-medicate and it is no longer necessary for a physician to prescribe the substance to attain and use it.

With that said, we still conduct studies (all the time) of ā€˜legal’ substances to determine whether they have a medicinal or therapeutic effect. Vitamins and supplements are great examples of this. So perhaps the word ā€œmedicinalā€ will no longer be associated with it, but we should still perform studies to determine if it has a specific effect at a specific dose for a specific condition.

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Explain, why Big Pharma was initially against legalization for medicinal purposes?

So these people are just fly-by-night MLM flunkies? And the information on the benefits are just psedudo-science?

Even though people claim to receive benefits from it in spite of clinical trials. They shouldn’t be allowed to use it for this reason until it goes through clinical trials? So their suffering ought to continue and they should be forced to use the drugs from Big Pharma.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the oil is used more so for medicinal purposes? I could see the oil remaining controlled assuming the amounts prescribed are relatively high versus legalizing smokable marijuana. That’s just a thought, though, I’ve never touched it in any form.

Sorta like how I think medicinal testosterone would be even if T or steroids, in general, were ever legalized (or decriminalized).

People are already saying that they are receiving medicinal benefits from it, but you want to take that away from them. Too bad for dolts like you it is already legal in more than half the states to varying degrees for medicinal purposes and people are already receiving benefits despite people like you.

Dude, learn to fucking read. Jesus. Legalize it, I don’t give a fuck. Seriously, I don’t care. Then, self-medicate to your heart’s desire.

I personally would like to know if it actually does something first, though, and isn’t just a placebo effect before using it.