Not only that but IBE used to be Liquid -Research a research company that got busted a few years back for selling recs ( GHB )then they became IBE.
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[quote]Carlito wrote:
Not only that but IBE used to be Liquid -Research a research company that got busted a few years back for selling recs ( GHB )then they became IBE.
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Yeah…about that…You’re full of shit and a fucking liar. The case never even resulted in an fucking indictment you lying little fuck.
[quote]TONEdef wrote:
Has anyone tried Mechano Growth Factor yet. I’ve been unable to find a source that isn’t extortionate. It still seems to be the domain of research chemical suppliers but the prices seem really steep. The research so far seems really interesting (Goldspink et al), but I’m curious to read anyone’s personal experience.
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Igf lr3- MWF AT 40 MCG POST WORKOUT. PEG mgf- 30 to 60 mcg tue and thurs post workout. This will make you grow. enouhgh said
The MGF I use is from www.steroid-peptides.com . My full IGF and MGF protocol is currently the main article on the main page of MesoRX.com.
[quote]Anthony Roberts wrote:
The MGF I use is from www.steroid-peptides.com . My full IGF and MGF protocol is currently the main article on the main page of MesoRX.com. [/quote]
You aren’t going to come clean with your affiliation with them up front?
LMAO!!! Nothing ever changes. A whore is a whore is a whore.
Nice job.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
You aren’t going to come clean with your affiliation with them up front?
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It’s noteworthy that you didn’t “come clean” with regards to your affiliation with the company you had started pimping here on T-Nation, until I told everyone about it publicly.
It’s also noteworthy that although you said you had only recently joined the company as staff, you had been listed as the primary owner according to public documents, from Day 1.
Also, as for me being involved with one company or another, I am affiliated (or have done work for) with almost every sponsor on the two primary sites I earn my living on (Steroid.com and EliteFitness.com).
Clearly, I have done work for Ag-guys, Steroid-peptides, etc, etc, etc…I’m a writer and have worked in various capacities for them and many others (Stealth Labs, ISteroids.com, T-Nation/Biotest, MesoRx.com, AlinShop, and many others…blah blah blah).
That’s my only “affiliation” with people…they contract me to do work for them (writing, usually…but sometimes I moderate forums for people when necessary, and always for pay- never totally for free), and I do that work for pay, and am always upfront about it.
You, on the other hand, tried to hide your affiliation and later ownership of your research chem company from the T-Nation crowd. Which was probably a good move, since both that company as well as your reputation here, are total crap.
Nice one. But you are the one that says you are up front from the get go.
Only when you get called on it do you admit to it.
You are a whore - just admit it.
You know as well as I do that Public Documents are only as public as the dislcosers want it to be.
I guess you believe that the IRS is looking out for our best interests as well, huh?
You are a unscrupulous whore. You pimp without declaring your affiliation - then when caught try to turn the tables.
GO on bck to mesoRx - or what ever board you have left to go to that hasn’t kicked your ass off.
[quote]Anthony Roberts wrote:
You, on the other hand, tried to hide your affiliation and later ownership of your research chem company from the T-Nation crowd. Which was probably a good move, since both that company as well as your reputation here, are total crap.
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You stand beside Carlito - and have the gall to call my company crap?
You get kicked off every board you get on and you call my reputation crap?
That’s rich. You are still a whore. Whether it’s to pimp your book, or pimp A-G, or Lion, or Carlito’s new scamsite - you are nothing but a whore.
What price buys you? That’s your reputation.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
What price buys you? That’s your reputation. [/quote]
Actually, that’s not true…I outright refused to work for your company when Dave tried to hire me to write for the site, several months ago.
Fortunately, I’ve reached a place in my career where I can pick and choose whom to work with. And there isn’t enough money in the world to pay me to work for a company like yours. Remember, your company tried to hire me, and I declined… not the other way around.
[quote]Anthony Roberts wrote:
rainjack wrote:
What price buys you? That’s your reputation.
Actually, that’s not true…I outright refused to work for your company when Dave tried to hire me to write for the site, several months ago.
Fortunately, I’ve reached a place in my career where I can pick and choose whom to work with. And there isn’t enough money in the world to pay me to work for a company like yours. Remember, your company tried to hire me, and I declined… not the other way around. [/quote]
I appreciate you mentioning us yet again. For some reason - our sale sky rocket everytime you start your lying.
I guess people can just smell a bullshitter - even on the internet.
I think it’s hilarious that you keep going back to the beginning of ChemOne.
We are just a little do nothing research chem company that has you so fucking wound up - you have to go do a search for our incorporation documents.
Why all the effort? I mean - we are just a shitty company with shitty owners, and a shitty product - according to you.
FUnny thing about that is - we keep growing in spite of not being on the noob boards that you prey on.
SO hate us all you want. We take that as a ringing endorsement for ChemOne. It must be - our sales spike everytime our company is mentioned by you.
Thanks.
Dear Mr. Accountant Rick aka Rainjack,
I have no idea why so much hatred towards me everytime you mention me, for that i say F U C * U, now if you have so much of a problem with me I am in Texas too so you can come and meet me and solve this problem like men …if you are one…LOL.
The only way you express yourself is by insulting others, it shows a lot about your character, there are some things I can’t say here and I’ll save them just in case you want to visit with me.
Obviously you are sore and hurt because I decided not to work with you anymore…again it shows thru your words. FYI I am doing better than ever and my business is as well! what are you going to do when I release the EPO mimetting peptide? trash me too?
It seems you got a lot of growing up to do bud. 
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[quote]Carlito wrote:
Dear Mr. Accountant Rick aka Rainjack,
I have no idea why so much hatred towards me everytime you mention me, for that i say F U C * U, now if you have so much of a problem with me I am in Texas too so you can come and meet me and solve this problem like men …if you are one…LOL.
The only way you express yourself is by insulting others, it shows a lot about your character, there are some things I can’t say here and I’ll save them just in case you want to visit with me.
Obviously you are sore and hurt because I decided not to work with you anymore…again it shows thru your words. FYI I am doing better than ever and my business is as well! what are you going to do when I release the EPO mimetting peptide? trash me too?
It seems you got a lot of growing up to do bud.
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I don’t like liars and cheats.
You are both. So is your new friend.
I could care less what you are coming out with.
And no - I am not bitter. We have had far less complaints, and much higher sales volume since we stopped carrying your stuff.
I wish you all the success in the world. I just don’t know how much success you can have when you spend your time spreading lies about IBE’s history.
If calling you a liar is an insult - then stop lying. You have lied about many things on many boards. I have no respect for people like that.
If you think that is something to be settled “like men” maybe you should start acting like one.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Carlito wrote:
Dear Mr. Accountant Rick aka Rainjack,
I have no idea why so much hatred towards me everytime you mention me, for that i say F U C * U, now if you have so much of a problem with me I am in Texas too so you can come and meet me and solve this problem like men …if you are one…LOL.
The only way you express yourself is by insulting others, it shows a lot about your character, there are some things I can’t say here and I’ll save them just in case you want to visit with me.
Obviously you are sore and hurt because I decided not to work with you anymore…again it shows thru your words. FYI I am doing better than ever and my business is as well! what are you going to do when I release the EPO mimetting peptide? trash me too?
It seems you got a lot of growing up to do bud.
C
I don’t like liars and cheats.
You are both. So is your new friend.
I could care less what you are coming out with.
And no - I am not bitter. We have had far less complaints, and much higher sales volume since we stopped carrying your stuff.
I wish you all the success in the world. I just don’t know how much success you can have when you spend your time spreading lies about IBE’s history.
If calling you a liar is an insult - then stop lying. You have lied about many things on many boards. I have no respect for people like that.
If you think that is something to be settled “like men” maybe you should start acting like one. [/quote]
I never started anything with you, you are the one who all of the sudden started calling me names, not sure what Chaos said to you and/or IBE but it sure sounds like I committed some sort of crime against you!
Is fine if you think I am a liar and a cheat because I really do not care since I am NOT! I have a proven track record of nothing but success, top customer satisfaction , top qulaity products etc etc…whatever you and your “fuc*buddies” say is not going to change it.
If true my producst was hurting your business then Chaos would have never said shi* about me selling my products to other companies…why then if my products suck according to you…LOL…I guess that is why I sell them by the hundreds and on a weekly basis…the MGF that Chaos said it was bad and refused to sell and blah blah that is the same one I am selling in large quantities to repeat customers and most of these guys are national level and professional level bodybuilders just so you know …how youlike that now?
MGF is been a secret among the pros until this year that is now available to the masses…what you got to say about that? that I am lying too…LOL sure whatever…it does nto matter because I know is true!
Have you ever thought that maybe IBE got fucke* in the as* and got bunk MGF? my MGF is of the best quality there is and is coming from a top premier chinese compnaie that would not deal with you or anyone else unless you are a “true researcher” or a true and legitimate "biochemical company"but thank God for the good connections I have…YOU HAVE NO IDEA…NO IDEA AT ALL…LOL !
My supplier has just stepped it up and now I am getting a higher purity peptides and with better packaging as well, check out my site for new pics and deals…my prices are the lowest and I am able to do so because i buy by the grams. My supplier will NOT sell anything less than a gram to anyone!
Who knows about PhoenixPetide who supply your “macho” IBE…lol.
I am a man because I am not afraid to meet you or any of your buddies it seems you are…i am not just anybody Rick do not make a mistake on that and your friend Chaos knows who i roll with so F U C * U!
Stop the BS and handle your own business prick boy.
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[quote]Carlito wrote:
I never started anything with you, you are the one who all of the sudden started calling me names, not sure what Chaos said to you and/or IBE but it sure sounds like I committed some sort of crime against you![/quote]
It wasn’t all of a sudden. You lied about IBE. You know you lied - and I called you on it. IF you want to dislike them - that is your business. But making up outright lies about them is chicken shit.
Youlied when you told chaos that you and ChamOne had an exclusive deal. Our fault was not getting your sorry ass to commit to something in writing. You proved exactly why by going back on your word and crawling in bed with Hooker - then bad mouthing us.
I don’t think you are a liar. I know it. You know it too.
Maybe you sold us shit MGF. Maybe you sold us shit Targex. But we pulled them off the market before we sold out because the Targex was generating unhappy customers.
Chaos was upset with you because you lied. You broke your word. You know exactly what you did to the person that got you started. If you can live with that…fine. But I have no respect for you, or anyone you associate with.
This is supposed to be news? MGF is not that big of a secret to anyone that actually has the capabiblity to read.
No. We bought 100 units of your MGF that we will not sell because we cannot guarantee what it is. Funny thing is - neither can you.
What makes you legitimate? Because you buy from China? LMAO!!!
Prove it. Your word means dick - as you have proven you will lie at the drop of a hat.
[quote]Who knows about PhoenixPetide who supply your “macho” IBE…lol.
I am a man because I am not afraid to meet you or any of your buddies it seems you are…i am not just anybody Rick do not make a mistake on that and your friend Chaos knows who i roll with so F U C * U![/quote]
I don’ thave any connections to IBE whatsoever - so whatever it is you are yammering about is of no concern to me.
I could give a shit who you roll with. Internet tough guys are the one’s that talk shit about how tough they are. You fit the bill to a T.
[quote]Stop the BS and handle your own business prick boy.
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Business is flying. And we didn’t have to suck any cock to get there.
Aside from all the horseshit, can someone post some personal results with IGF or MGF- things like weight changes, strength increases and over what period of time. “I think I got bigger” ain’t gonna make it. Let’s hear something thats been measured.
I can tell you right now, use up a plain old bottle of test-e and you won’t be scratching your head wondering while you say “I think I got bigger”. Facts and details please.
[quote]RoidEnthusiast wrote:
Aside from all the horseshit, can someone post some personal results with IGF or MGF- things like weight changes, strength increases and over what period of time. “I think I got bigger” ain’t gonna make it. Let’s hear something thats been measured.
I can tell you right now, use up a plain old bottle of test-e and you won’t be scratching your head wondering while you say “I think I got bigger”. Facts and details please. [/quote]
You probably won’t find anything but anecdotal evidence.
I may be talking out my ass here, but I think that results from IGF vary with the protocols used. And there are a bunch of protocols out there.
It wasn’t all of a sudden. You lied about IBE. You know you lied - and I called you on it. IF you want to dislike them - that is your business. But making up outright lies about them is chicken shit. WTF DO YOU CARE, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, LOL
Youlied when you told chaos that you and ChamOne had an exclusive deal. Our fault was not getting your sorry ass to commit to something in writing. You proved exactly why by going back on your word and crawling in bed with Hooker - then bad mouthing us. I GUESS THAT MAKES ME THE SMARTER ASS AND YOU THE DUMB ASS UH? LOL
I don’t think you are a liar. I know it. You know it too. YOU WISH
Maybe you sold us shit MGF. Maybe you sold us shit Targex. But we pulled them off the market before we sold out because the Targex was generating unhappy customers. IF YOU THINK SO THEN THANK YOU FOR YOUR MONEY , HA HA…
Chaos was upset with you because you lied. You broke your word. You know exactly what you did to the person that got you started. If you can live with that…fine. But I have no respect for you, or anyone you associate with. OH NO! HOW TERRIBLE!!! I HAVE NO RESPECT FROM THE RAINMAN ( RETARDED, LOL )
This is supposed to be news? MGF is not that big of a secret to anyone that actually has the capabiblity to read. APPARENTLY YOU DON’T , LOL
No. We bought 100 units of your MGF that we will not sell because we cannot guarantee what it is. Funny thing is - neither can you. HOW THE FUC* YOU KNOW THAT YOU IGNORANT FUC*! YOU DO NOT MAKE MY PURCHASES…YOU TALK ONLY BECAUSE YOU GOT A MOUTH.
What makes you legitimate? Because you buy from China? LMAO!!! BECAUSE I AM HONEST AND I HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD, HOW ABOUT YOU?..WHAT MAKE SYOU LEGITIMATE, BESIDES BEING A LOW SCUM CRYSTAL METH DRUG DEALER? …I DARE YOU GO TO OUTLAW AND SAY THAT ABOUT ME YOU MISERABLE INSECT.
Prove it. Your word means dick - as you have proven you will lie at the drop of a hat. ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE A SORE LOSER, IF TARGEX DI DNOT MEAN SHIT TO YOU THEN YOU WOULD HAVE NOT MADE A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT YOU BRAINLESS WORM!
I don’ thave any connections to IBE whatsoever - so whatever it is you are yammering about is of no concern to me. I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK IF YOU DO OR NOT…LOL
I could give a shit who you roll with. Internet tough guys are the one’s that talk shit about how tough they are. You fit the bill to a T. HA HA…YOU ARE THE INTERNET TOUGH GUY BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH I DARED YOU IN PUBLIC TO SETTLE THIS IN PERSON YOU WON’T RESPOND…YOU ARE SUCH A PUSS* …TYPICAL…I BETTER NOT SAY ANYTHING…LOL…
Business is flying. And we didn’t have to suck any cock to get there. LOL, I AM MY OWN BOSS AND I DO WHATEVER THE FUC* I WANT WITH MY BUSINESS, I DO NOT HAVE TO SUCK ANYONE’S COCK LIKE YOU SUCK’S CHAOS AND IBE’S AND WHO KNOWS WHO ELSE…LOL…
RAINMAN…YOU ARE SO PATHETIC, LOL
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[quote]Carlito wrote:
I could give a shit who you roll with. Internet tough guys are the one’s that talk shit about how tough they are. You fit the bill to a T. HA HA…YOU ARE THE INTERNET TOUGH GUY BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH I DARED YOU IN PUBLIC TO SETTLE THIS IN PERSON YOU WON’T RESPOND…YOU ARE SUCH A PUSS* …TYPICAL…I BETTER NOT SAY ANYTHING…LOL…
Business is flying. And we didn’t have to suck any cock to get there. LOL, I AM MY OWN BOSS AND I DO WHATEVER THE FUC* I WANT WITH MY BUSINESS, I DO NOT HAVE TO SUCK ANYONE’S COCK LIKE YOU SUCK’S CHAOS AND IBE’S AND WHO KNOWS WHO ELSE…LOL…
RAINMAN…YOU ARE SO PATHETIC, LOL
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Dude - at least I can fucking convey a coherent thought. You ramble like a crack head, and have the grammar of a third grader.
I’m glad business is good for you. Really. But you are still a liar. You have yet to deny the lies. If you have, you are so unable to type that it is illegible.
You are your own boss, huh? Is that why you are unable to do anything by yourself? First it was us, and when you saw a faster ride - you jumped.
I don’t blame you - but fuck dude - you gave your word. And as you have proven, your word means dick.
As for the tough guy bullshit - you can find me if you want me that bad. I have better things to do with my time than slum around the barrio’s of Houston looking for an internet warrior.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
I don’t have any connections to IBE whatsoever
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Actually, I would say that you and your company has intimate connections to IBE. In fact, one of the four owners of your company (David, who posts under the name “Chaos”) is listed on IBE’s forums as a member of their staff there.
How can you claim no involvement “whatsoever” with a company when one of your partners is on staff with them on their site?