[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
THE liberal agenda? Vegan maybe…
Any kind of “liberal agenda” I’ve been aware of revolves around letting people believe and do what they want as long as it doesn’t interfere with others.
This meatless Mondays bullshit sounds decidedly un-liberal.[/quote]
Don’t go start confusing everyone with facts. Its established policy here that anything that people don’t like shall be branded as liberal and shunned accordingly!
Freebirds. Seriously dude, this shouldn’t be a problem.
There was talk last semester at University of Maryland College Park of having a Meatless Mondays (only allowing chicken nuggets). It was an effort pushed forward by the Vegans+Vegetarian club people claiming the university needs to offer more “healthy options”.
However I don’t think their bullshit was actually accepted by the main dinner place.
For the OP:
Do you belong to any clubs at your univ? And are you friends with students who are influential members of other clubs?
IF YES. I suggest you guys set up a “Beefy Mondays” barbecue grill right outside the main dinner. You should be able to do this since student clubs always have sales of baked cookies 'n shit to raise $$ and sign up new members.
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
Get some obnoxiously-sized bucket of chicken and start devouring it in the middle of the cafeteria. After each bite, say the word “BBQ” as many times as you can (ie: “MMM mmm MMM!! This be some fine BAH-BE-QUE!!”)
If some vegan says anything, aggressively argue that chicken isn’t meat. Cite random quotes from the bible and use them to support your position (ie: "But the Amorites would dwell in mount Heres in Aijalon, and in Shaalbim: yet the hand of the house of Joseph prevailed, so that they became tributaries. - Judges 1:35…I mean it says it RIGHT THERE, chicken is fair game!!).
Show a table of hippies your bucket full of bones, recently liberated from the meat they were attached to, and say “Hey, the Chicken is dumb enough to get caught, the chicken is dumb enough to get eaten…just like Darbin said!!”.
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LOL
and LOL @ campus wildlife hunt
I would bet Meatless Mondays has a lot more to due with the UC budget cuts than a liberal agenda.
If I were you,I would petition and have people that have the same attitude towards this atrocity to support your cause. You should also start a Carnivore movement at your school just as the Vegans have.
Liberal and vegan agenda’s?? Lawsuits?
Am i missing something here?
How bout you just bring your own fucking lunch on a monday?? Why are you still letting other peoples decisions control your life?
[quote]stockzy wrote:
Liberal and vegan agenda’s?? Lawsuits?
Am i missing something here?
How bout you just bring your own fucking lunch on a monday?? Why are you still letting other peoples decisions control your life?[/quote]
I don’t think you understand - this isn’t a high school lunch room where he doesn’t like the menu for the day - this is a university dining service where he has pre-paid for this entire semester’s food (breakfast, lunch, and dinner) and they have removed meat from the menu for an entire day (read 3 meals) for food he has already paid for to appease a small minority of people. As most school dining halls there is a damn salad bar for the kids who don’t want to eat meat, as well as being able to get pasta dishes and other similiar entree without meat, so I don’t buy that vegetarians don’t have any options - they are simply trying to push their agenda on others which isn’t cool in my book.
[quote]stockzy wrote:
How bout you just bring your own fucking lunch on a monday?? Why are you still letting other peoples decisions control your life?[/quote]
You are completely missing the point, though you are in good company because that seems to be a common trend in this section of the forum. You want to put a bandaid on the problem, instead of fixing the real issue and making sure you don’t cut yourself again the next time, capiche?
Obviously the OP can go to the store and buy food and what not, but he shouldn’t fucking have to. He has prepaid good money for a meal plan and should be able to use it.
Do you just sit back and allow people to renege on services that you have already entered into a contract to acquire, and are paying thousands of dollars a year to consume? I feel sorry for your financial well being if so!
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
THE liberal agenda? Vegan maybe…
Any kind of “liberal agenda” I’ve been aware of revolves around letting people believe and do what they want as long as it doesn’t interfere with others.
This meatless Mondays bullshit sounds decidedly un-liberal.[/quote]
Not classic liberal, these are american liberals, huge difference.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]stockzy wrote:
How bout you just bring your own fucking lunch on a monday?? Why are you still letting other peoples decisions control your life?[/quote]
You are completely missing the point, though you are in good company because that seems to be a common trend in this section of the forum. You want to put a bandaid on the problem, instead of fixing the real issue and making sure you don’t cut yourself again the next time, capiche?
Obviously the OP can go to the store and buy food and what not, but he shouldn’t fucking have to. He has prepaid good money for a meal plan and should be able to use it.
Do you just sit back and allow people to renege on services that you have already entered into a contract to acquire, and are paying thousands of dollars a year to consume? I feel sorry for your financial well being if so![/quote]
Thank you. You explained this far better than I could.
I’m tempted to call it a non-issue and let it go, but I realize that they do in fact force you (to an extent greater than I had initially though) to the whole vegetarian menu for that one day. True, one day, but it’s one miserable day.
The dining hall in question basically serves two res halls (areas? communities? groups of towers…) that it is nestled between. So generally speaking, everyone there goes there for meals if they have the meals. What I realize is, not only are the next closest dining commons half way across campus, but that the completely and totally meatless mondays was, while advertised here and there where people don’t necessarily look, not adequately made known to be completely and totally meatless. Furthermore, given the inflexibility of our meal plan (worse in the UC system in my opinion, as far as I know), I can basically only enter the dining hall once per meal block, with no roll-over meals. So I couldn’t walk in, see that there’s no meat options and leave. I’d be out 10 bucks right there. Were I to leave and go to a different dining common (they only put up flyers mentioning which dining halls sometime in the middle of the day of, as far as I’m aware (not exactly lucid at 7 in the morning)), they’d charge me $12 to my school fees account.
And freebirds… is damned good. But the point of the matter, as the gentlemen above so eloquently put, is I payed for the damned meal already, so I’d like to partake in it.
I didn’t intend for this to become semi-shit-storm-ish with regards to the problems of the university. I really just wanted to complain and see if anyone else was sharing my suffering. shrugs oh well.
[quote]A Ninny Mouse wrote:
Thank you. You explained this far better than I could.
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You’re welcome. Now please change your f’ing avatar before I accidentally catch some ghey.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Do you just sit back and allow people to renege on services that you have already entered into a contract to acquire, and are paying thousands of dollars a year to consume? I feel sorry for your financial well being if so![/quote]
Oh, the contract explicitly states he is entitled to meat products as part of the meal plan, does it?
You shouldn’t flatter yourself into thinking that only you and those who happen to see things from your point of view are the ones who ‘get it’. While I - and stockzy, too, I’m sure - happen to get where you are coming from, I (we) don’t see the need to be as outraged as many of you appear to because we would be more comfortable exercising the various other options available.
Yes, it sucks, but the way some of you immediately jumped to liberal conspiracies and threats of lawsuits without even bothering to examine any other shred of information is just a tad silly.
OP - you mentioned you can’t swipe your card to get into one of the other dining halls, see they don’t have any meat, and go to another one without getting a charge to your account. You have a couple options here: a) you can sue the school, b) jump on a bandwagon lambasting soulless capitalistic pigs, or c) ASK the person at the front desk what their menu is like this particular evening.
Otherwise - does your school not have a website where they make this sort of information available?
Clearly, this is something the student body can fix with a simple petition - and it should start there before you put on your tinfoil hats and threaten lawsuits.
Didn’t realise it was already paid for or part of your tuition fee’s. My mistake.
Sucks to be in Uni.
Sorry to ruin your rant, but it was just an awareness thing.
I loaded up on the pork tostadas at lunch:
http://www.housing.ucsb.edu/dining/menu/dlg/ThisWeekMenu.pdf
My University isn’t completely getting rid of meats, but there are posters up everywhere trying to convince people to become a “Flexitarian”. Basically the poster states we should all try to remove meat from one day of the week.
This is retarded, don’t people realize we need protein?
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
My University isn’t completely getting rid of meats, but there are posters up everywhere trying to convince people to become a “Flexitarian”. Basically the poster states we should all try to remove meat from one day of the week.
This is retarded, don’t people realize we need protein?[/quote]
No, they don’t. And as long as they’re not forcing it on me, it doesn’t fucking matter.
You want an issue worth complaining about? Try the huge fee hikes and lack of open classes as the state legislature realizes its finally time to pay the piper.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Do you just sit back and allow people to renege on services that you have already entered into a contract to acquire, and are paying thousands of dollars a year to consume? I feel sorry for your financial well being if so![/quote]
Oh, the contract explicitly states he is entitled to meat products as part of the meal plan, does it?[/quote]
I haven’t seen the contract, so I can’t really comment on the specifics. However, it is not the slightest bit unreasonable to expect that a state run university, receiving federal funding to operate, would adhere to the FDA Nutritional Guidelines, which, regardless of the fact that they need to be overhauled, still include an ESSENTIAL food group consisting of meat.
Also, it sounds like this is a new thing. How long has that dining hall been open? 20 years? 50 years? 100+ years? If you have a history of providing services one way, one can reasonably expect that those services will continue when entering into a contract.
Its not that difficult to comprehend.
That sucks ass. Since when is meat not healthy?
[quote]twisner wrote:
Sorry to ruin your rant, but it was just an awareness thing.
I loaded up on the pork tostadas at lunch:
http://www.housing.ucsb.edu/dining/menu/dlg/ThisWeekMenu.pdf[/quote]
Noted, but I along with probably most of the people who were there don’t really check that and go to the most convenient dining common, thus the closest one, which in my case was the one without the meat.