McCain/Obama and Economy

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
<<< I’m not impressed with people who want to ‘reach across the aisle’. >>>[/quote]

I’m tired of hearin this shit.

I am not interested in cooperation with marxist socialist destroyers. I want them defeated. I want their horrible ideas exposed and discredited. I want their policies permanently expunged from our national fabric. I would like to parade them into the UN building, take a giant saw, cut it and them loose and float them off into the Atlantic on their way to Europe where they belong.

Yeah, what Tirib said :wink:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
<<< I’m not impressed with people who want to ‘reach across the aisle’. >>>

I’m tired of hearin this shit.

I am not interested in cooperation with marxist socialist destroyers. I want them defeated. I want their horrible ideas exposed and discredited. I want their policies permanently expunged from our national fabric.

I would like to parade them into the UN building, take a giant saw, cut it and them loose and float them off into the Atlantic on their way to Europe where they belong.[/quote]

Ditto

FDR’s plans pulled us out of a REPUBLICAN initiated depression.

[quote]hedo wrote:
Could have been stopped in 2003 but it was blocked.

I’m sure the Times will rerun this on the front page soon with a “told you so” headline…don’t you think.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print[/quote]

Yup, the Dems don’t bear ANY responsibility whatsoever for the F/F collapse. Not at all. None.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
FDR’s plans pulled us out of a REPUBLICAN initiated depression. [/quote]

And 80 years hence the market would’ve long since recovered on it’s own and we wouldn’t be drowning in this socialist whirlpool if he would’ve just left it alone.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
FDR’s plans pulled us out of a REPUBLICAN initiated depression. [/quote]

No. WWII pulled us out of the Depression. FDR was the beginning of socialism in the US, and we have been in debt ever since.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
FDR’s plans pulled us out of a REPUBLICAN initiated depression. [/quote]

Why don’t you pick up a book before spouting this shit.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
FDR’s plans pulled us out of a REPUBLICAN initiated depression.

And 80 years hence the market would’ve long since recovered on it’s own and we wouldn’t be drowning in this socialist whirlpool if he would’ve just left it alone.[/quote]

We would have recovered faster like we had after previous, much worse, collapses.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
FDR’s plans pulled us out of a REPUBLICAN initiated depression.

No. WWII pulled us out of the Depression. FDR was the beginning of socialism in the US, and we have been in debt ever since. [/quote]

Indeed.

FDR is the quintessential example of good intentions paving the way to hell. I do believe that was a case of misguided altruism. FDR really did just want to help hurting Americans, but once that fork in the road is turned the colossal bronto budgeted catastrophic monster we’re living with today is inevitable.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
FDR’s plans pulled us out of a REPUBLICAN initiated depression. [/quote]

Please send reference to source that states this for fact.

Until then, I’m going to defer to the history books that state otherwise.

Here’s a nice “New Deal” article for you. Not what they teach you in Government School, err Public School:

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3357

Do some research on Wilson’s WWI tax onslaught in th teens and how that contributed to the Depression.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
FDR was the beginning of socialism in the US, and we have been in debt ever since. [/quote]

Absolutely. And ‘world government’ goes back even farther with the abhorration of a presidency from Woodrow “League of Nations” Wilson-- you know, the segregationist Democrat and guy who wrote that the Constitution was burdonsome?

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
FDR’s plans pulled us out of a REPUBLICAN initiated depression.

Please send reference to source that states this for fact.

Until then, I’m going to defer to the history books that state otherwise.

Here’s a nice “New Deal” article for you. Not what they teach you in Government School, err Public School:

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3357
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The modern “solutions” to economic problems amount to dumping gas on your house to stop it from continuing to burn down.

I don’t know what goes on in people,s minds any more.

Neither one of these guys are change. They are varying levels of more of the same liberal nanny state crap that got us here in the first place.

Tyrannical taxation was one the major motivating factors that lead to this nation’s founding and now we have a guy telling us that to be patriotic we should be willing to proudly submit to levels that would have the minutemen instinctively reaching for their muskets.

Somebody started a thread about young voters and I’m tellin you when the generation in college now takes power it is over.

Watching the interviews and talking to people when I’m on the job I have to catch myself staring in gape jawed unbelief.

The beauty of having a monopoly is that it makes any idiot seem as if they know what they’re doing. A mediocre company can rest on its laurels and enjoy a huge market share while being sheltered from competition.

Off topic, but that describes the personal training company I worked for at my gym.

[quote]AynRandLuvr wrote:
Like all socialist schemes, it attracts abuse and eventually destroys everything in its path. If history teaches us anything at all, it is “The government which governs least governs best.” — Thomas Jefferson

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The government that governs EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY from cradle to grave governs best
----- The modern Democrat Party

The government that does a bit less of the same thing while attempting to give the impression of being completely different governs best.
-----The modern Republican Party

Some of you may remember that this is supposed to be the United States of America.

Jefferson may not have believed in prophecy, but he sure was playing prophet here.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
<<< I’m not impressed with people who want to ‘reach across the aisle’. >>>

I’m tired of hearin this shit.

I am not interested in cooperation with marxist socialist destroyers. I want them defeated. I want their horrible ideas exposed and discredited. I want their policies permanently expunged from our national fabric. I would like to parade them into the UN building, take a giant saw, cut it and them loose and float them off into the Atlantic on their way to Europe where they belong.[/quote]

That won’t happen until we learn that each human being, their lives, their property, their dreams and ambitions, are NOT the property of the community. Until our morality changes (particularly the view that unselfishness is good and that the community can force us to be unselfish) you can expect violence against individuals. We are trapped in an altruistic furnace, until that day.

[quote]AynRandLuvr wrote:

That won’t happen until we learn that each human being, their lives, their property, their dreams and ambitions, are NOT the property of the community. Until our morality changes (particularly the view that unselfishness is good and that the community can force us to be unselfish) you can expect violence against individuals. We are trapped in an altruistic furnace, until that day.
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Yeah, but it takes a village to raise your kids… Hillary said so.

[quote]AynRandLuvr wrote:
<<< each human being, their lives, their property, their dreams and ambitions, are NOT the property of the community. >>>
[/quote]

[b]THEY’RE NOT!?!??!?

HOLEEE SHIT!!![/b]

I gotta stop watchin so much TV.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
FDR’s plans pulled us out of a REPUBLICAN initiated depression.

No. WWII pulled us out of the Depression. FDR was the beginning of socialism in the US, and we have been in debt ever since. [/quote]

No, we’ve been in debt since REAGAN. “Borrow and spend” was the motto.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
FDR’s plans pulled us out of a REPUBLICAN initiated depression.

No. WWII pulled us out of the Depression. FDR was the beginning of socialism in the US, and we have been in debt ever since.

No, we’ve been in debt since REAGAN. “Borrow and spend” was the motto.
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Do some research, numb nuts. That bullshit may fly at your left-wing circle jerk party, but you are so far from the truth on this it is absolutely laughable.

More to the point - you just proved you are part of the sycophantic left-wing kool-aid sippers.

It is truly sad to see there are people so horribly ignorant about history - and were not talking centuries here.