[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I honestly don’t see much wrong with the current state of the IRC. .[/quote]
Are you a tax accountant? if so this statement makes an incredible amount of sense as it has created your otherwise worthless profession.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
The Tax Policy Center seems to say otherwise. Under Obama most Americans will pay less.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/13/news/economy/voting_for.moneymag/index3.htm
Scroll down for a side-by-side comparison. [/quote]
Have you learned absolutly nothing here? why don’t you go read a book on economics before spouting bullshit that is completely irrelavent. the welfare most will get will be more than offset by the ill effects this type of taxation has. More than offset.
[quote]100meters wrote:
dhickey wrote:
100meters wrote:
Bondslave wrote:
I lol at all the leftist d-bags that still think nobama is going to lower taxes. What is it about his voting record, his truthfulness in general, the democratic party, the current economic situation, or his giant spending agenda that would lead you to believe he is actually going to lower taxes?
You have no reason to believe him, so you are just one of the sheep that takes every word out of obamassiah’s mouth as gospel.
Other than democrats generally favor progressive tax policies, and obama voting for both middle class tax relief and returning taxes on the top quintile to previous levels?
Why don’t we just “return” the top bracket to 78% then. Imagine how well off we would all be?
Or to lower them to zero? But seriously Joe the plumber is worse off now than 8 years ago despite aggressively lowering taxes for the top quintile. Clearly we need to return to a more sensible tax policy.
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really. i don’t know a single person that is worse off today than they were 8 years ago. y
[quote]dhickey wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
I honestly don’t see much wrong with the current state of the IRC. .
Are you a tax accountant? if so this statement makes an incredible amount of sense as it has created your otherwise worthless profession.[/quote]
Ouch… At times yes I am, at other times I audit, and at other times, I have been a sort of ‘acting CFO’ for a client of mine.
I understand your opinion, but we are far from worthless.
The fact that you think accountants are worthless and have an opinion on any business related function baffles me.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
I honestly don’t see much wrong with the current state of the IRC. .
Are you a tax accountant? if so this statement makes an incredible amount of sense as it has created your otherwise worthless profession.[/quote]
What if I was a tax accountant at a small business? Would i still be worthless?
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Not too much “abstract” here. Joe seems a decent sort, and he’d pay less taxes under an Obama administration than a McCain administration.
Yeah. Lets suck all the drive out of people so they all stay right where they are in life. Under the new baby jesus, advancement is scorned. Let the state give you money instead.
This is the most bullshit line of thinking I have seen on here in some time.
Much to the disappointment of liberal fuckwads - there are actually people in this society who dare to dream about being more than they are right now.
But now with the new baby jesus, you are penalized for advancement.
You to can be more than you are right now. You could grow a brain.[/quote]
You first, ladder-boy.
[quote]100meters wrote:
rainjack wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
This is just more of the same from the lefties. If you can’t control the message attack the messenger.
Who the fuck cares about Joe the Plumber?
This is just more of the same distraction from talking about issues.
You are about a stupid motherfucker.
Go back to your theory books. Every time you venture into reality, you say stupid shit like this.
There are millions of Joe the Plumbers out here in the real world: They are the backbone of our economy and our society.
And all would benefit more under Obama more than McCain. Hence the humor of a guy willing to shoot himself in the foot to help support a quintile he’s not remotely close to. Odd really.
But you’ve accidentally nailed the point of providing targeted tax relief to the “backbone of our economy”, and that’s obviously why Obama wants to give “Joe” the “plumber” that tax cut.
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I was no where near the top quintile 2 years ago. I am squarely in that quintile now.
It’s odd how the liberals want to squash dreams and desire in the name of fairness. Why is that?
The “tax relief” is giving relief to who? People who don’t pay taxes under the current system right now, and the “relief” starts phasing out at $40K.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
100meters wrote:
rainjack wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
This is just more of the same from the lefties. If you can’t control the message attack the messenger.
Who the fuck cares about Joe the Plumber?
This is just more of the same distraction from talking about issues.
You are about a stupid motherfucker.
Go back to your theory books. Every time you venture into reality, you say stupid shit like this.
There are millions of Joe the Plumbers out here in the real world: They are the backbone of our economy and our society.
And all would benefit more under Obama more than McCain. Hence the humor of a guy willing to shoot himself in the foot to help support a quintile he’s not remotely close to. Odd really.
But you’ve accidentally nailed the point of providing targeted tax relief to the “backbone of our economy”, and that’s obviously why Obama wants to give “Joe” the “plumber” that tax cut.
I was no where near the top quintile 2 years ago. I am squarely in that quintile now.
It’s odd how the liberals want to squash dreams and desire in the name of fairness. Why is that?
The “tax relief” is giving relief to who? People who don’t pay taxes under the current system right now, and the “relief” starts phasing out at $40K.
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Dreams squashed by returning to the Clinton tax rates? I don’t think so.
We need MORE tax cuts paired with HUGE (I’m talking about taking a chainsaw to the budget) spending cuts.
[quote]100meters wrote:
rainjack wrote:
100meters wrote:
rainjack wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
This is just more of the same from the lefties. If you can’t control the message attack the messenger.
Who the fuck cares about Joe the Plumber?
This is just more of the same distraction from talking about issues.
You are about a stupid motherfucker.
Go back to your theory books. Every time you venture into reality, you say stupid shit like this.
There are millions of Joe the Plumbers out here in the real world: They are the backbone of our economy and our society.
And all would benefit more under Obama more than McCain. Hence the humor of a guy willing to shoot himself in the foot to help support a quintile he’s not remotely close to. Odd really.
But you’ve accidentally nailed the point of providing targeted tax relief to the “backbone of our economy”, and that’s obviously why Obama wants to give “Joe” the “plumber” that tax cut.
I was no where near the top quintile 2 years ago. I am squarely in that quintile now.
It’s odd how the liberals want to squash dreams and desire in the name of fairness. Why is that?
The “tax relief” is giving relief to who? People who don’t pay taxes under the current system right now, and the “relief” starts phasing out at $40K.
Dreams squashed by returning to the Clinton tax rates? I don’t think so.
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The Clinton tax increase led to a republican overthrow of Congress. I suspect the same thing will happen with little baby jesus and his tax increase.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
dhickey wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
I honestly don’t see much wrong with the current state of the IRC. .
Are you a tax accountant? if so this statement makes an incredible amount of sense as it has created your otherwise worthless profession.
Ouch… At times yes I am, at other times I audit, and at other times, I have been a sort of ‘acting CFO’ for a client of mine.
I understand your opinion, but we are far from worthless.
The fact that you think accountants are worthless and have an opinion on any business related function baffles me.[/quote]
Not accountants, tax accountants. Without a completely fucked up tax code, there would be no need for tax accountants.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
dhickey wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
I honestly don’t see much wrong with the current state of the IRC. .
Are you a tax accountant? if so this statement makes an incredible amount of sense as it has created your otherwise worthless profession.
What if I was a tax accountant at a small business? Would i still be worthless? [/quote]
If we moved to consumption tax, yes.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
Not accountants, tax accountants. Without a completely fucked up tax code, there would be no need for tax accountants.[/quote]
I am a tax accountant, and I have been praying for the last 10 years that I would be unceremoniously put out of business because of a simplified tax code.
Hasn’t happened yet.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Not accountants, tax accountants. Without a completely fucked up tax code, there would be no need for tax accountants.
I am a tax accountant, and I have been praying for the last 10 years that I would be unceremoniously put out of business because of a simplified tax code.
Hasn’t happened yet. [/quote]
Mr Biden, now ^^ that’s a patriot.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Not accountants, tax accountants. Without a completely fucked up tax code, there would be no need for tax accountants.
I am a tax accountant, and I have been praying for the last 10 years that I would be unceremoniously put out of business because of a simplified tax code.
Hasn’t happened yet. [/quote]
that is humor.
(to dhickey: fair enough)
[quote]Sloth wrote:
We need MORE tax cuts paired with HUGE (I’m talking about taking a chainsaw to the budget) spending cuts. [/quote]
As a genuine question, not busting balls:
What would you cut, if you could choose?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
rainjack wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Not accountants, tax accountants. Without a completely fucked up tax code, there would be no need for tax accountants.
I am a tax accountant, and I have been praying for the last 10 years that I would be unceremoniously put out of business because of a simplified tax code.
Hasn’t happened yet.
that is humor.
(to dhickey: fair enough)[/quote]
I wouldn’t feel bad. I am in sales. I provide no real value and get paid very well for it.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Sloth wrote:
We need MORE tax cuts paired with HUGE (I’m talking about taking a chainsaw to the budget) spending cuts.
As a genuine question, not busting balls:
What would you cut, if you could choose?[/quote]
Everything.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
rainjack wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Not accountants, tax accountants. Without a completely fucked up tax code, there would be no need for tax accountants.
I am a tax accountant, and I have been praying for the last 10 years that I would be unceremoniously put out of business because of a simplified tax code.
Hasn’t happened yet.
that is humor.
(to dhickey: fair enough)
I wouldn’t feel bad. I am in sales. I provide no real value and get paid very well for it.[/quote]
ha ha… Maybe no value, but the people I know normally have a lot of hours logged to make good money in sales. So you have work ethic on your side.
That is still pretty funny thou
[quote]Sloth wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Sloth wrote:
We need MORE tax cuts paired with HUGE (I’m talking about taking a chainsaw to the budget) spending cuts.
As a genuine question, not busting balls:
What would you cut, if you could choose?
Everything. [/quote]
there is something to be said about ambition