Max Strength for gabex

[quote]gabex wrote:
Looks like my last post didn’t go through…

Spent Saturday drinking like a fish back down at IU for some fun times… still feeling hungover today. I decided to push everything a day out as opposed to lifting like this.

8x3 box squats… last time 200x4 was pretty much a max attempt. Any idea as to how much weight I should use for the 8x3 sets?[/quote]

Was it a max for 1 set or all? If it’s 1 I’d just drop 10lbs and work from there, if it’s all try and add weight if you can. You enjoying the prgram so far? Just finished the heavy high intensity day of phase 1, it kicked my ass!

Phase 1, Day 9, Lower

A. Box Squat
warmup barx6, 95x6, 135x3, 165x, 185x3

190x3, 195x3, 200x3, 200x3, 205x3, 205x3, 205x3, 205x3

  • I probably should have just started at 205 but I didn’t know where to start as 205x4 was my last work set last week and was pretty much a max attempt

B. Speed Deadlift
240x2, then 9 sets of 235x2

  • The first set the bar speed seemed really slow so I just dropped 5lbs

C. Walking DB Lunge
40x8/side
40x8/side
40x8/side
35x8/side

  • Last set was actually 6/side, few second pause, 1/side, pause, 1/side

D1. Reverse Crunch
D2. Prone Bridge
30s/side, 30s/side, 30s/side

  • I totally forgot to do reverse crunch, and I was already at 1hr 15min… oh well

I’m in the middle of the max strength program. It’s my second time going through it. You’ll definitely notice some good progress on all your lifts. It’s too bad you didn’t get true maxes at the beginning of the program. Make sure you keep up on the mobility work. It may not seem to be doing much at first but eventually you get a feel for the movements and you’ll see it carryover to the weight room.

I think in cressey’s locker room thread he says all of your work sets should be within 90% of your heaviest set. I usually warm up until I get to a point where I think the weight will be tough for the given reps. If the last rep wasn’t a real struggle I’ll usually add 5-10 pounds.

just curious, what’s your body weight? You’re squat seems fairly low compared to your other lifts. Any reason?

[quote]pvoosen wrote:
I’m in the middle of the max strength program. It’s my second time going through it. You’ll definitely notice some good progress on all your lifts. It’s too bad you didn’t get true maxes at the beginning of the program. Make sure you keep up on the mobility work. It may not seem to be doing much at first but eventually you get a feel for the movements and you’ll see it carryover to the weight room.

I think in cressey’s locker room thread he says all of your work sets should be within 90% of your heaviest set. I usually warm up until I get to a point where I think the weight will be tough for the given reps. If the last rep wasn’t a real struggle I’ll usually add 5-10 pounds.

just curious, what’s your body weight? You’re squat seems fairly low compared to your other lifts. Any reason?[/quote]

On the last set of box squat I barely got the last rep. If I were to do another set, I’d have to back off the weight… so I figured backing off for another set would be no different then counting the sets that were 5-10lbs lighter.

As far as my body weight… damn. Didn’t wanna get called out on it… I’m about 180-185 right now. I went from 175 @ approx 12% to 200 @ approx 17%. May-August 2008… but realized that ‘bulking’ didn’t quite work out for me… even if it was semi-clean, I added as much fat as muscle. I did the AD from Nov 1 - the end Feb without hardly ever weighed myself. I weighed myself and saw that I was down to 183 (carb depleted) and freaked out… added carbs back starting this program and actually lost another 2lbs already lol. I am probably around 13% now. I am not trying to ‘bulk’ through this program… more looking to get all of my lifts up and add some clean muscle.

As far as the squat being low, I don’t know. I am 6’1 and squat as deep as possible. The front squats are ATG. My back squat is past parallel, and I should prob measure my box I am using… its an aerobic step with the little stackers… one level higher and it’d be slightly too high, one level lower and the crease of my hips would be below the bottom of my thigh.

Edit: I just saw your log and noticed your squat and dead are almost even. Not to knock you, but that’s usually only the case when someone is not squatting to depth. I checked my front squat depth last night (on the high intensity front squat day), and it is definitely ATG

Phase 1, Day 10, Upper

A. Bench
warmup barx10, 95x6, 135x6, 145x6, 175x1
185x3, 185x3, 185x3, 185x3, 185x3, 185x3, 180x3, 175x3

  • Last set at 185 I needed a little help with on the last rep, same with the last rep on 180x3

B1. DB Neutral Grip Incline Bench
50x8
45x8
40x12
B2. Medium Grip Pronated Cable Row
120x10
120x10
120x10
120x10

  • I didn’t expect to miss reps on the bench. Also last 2 reps of last set of rows had a little bit of cheat in the movement

C1. Prone Trap Raises
5x12
5x12
5x12
C2. Side Lying Ext Rotation
5x12/side
5x12/side
5x12/side

D1. Side Bridges

  • I started to do 1 set and something happened… I’m not sure if its my knee or quad, but my leg, inner quad right above my knee like popped out or something in the middle of my first set. It got real tight cramped up and started twitching. I couldn’t walk or move for like 5 mins I dont know what the fuck happened

I’m wondering what I did to my leg. I’m gonna take some extra fish oil today and foam roll… because I need to squat again tomorrow!

Phase 1, Day 11, Lower

A. Front Squat
warmup barx6, 95x6, 135x6
165x6, 165x6, 165x6, 165x6, 160x6, 155x6

  • Last set of 165 was nasty… I barely got it up and then almost dropped it trying to rerack. Some lady thought it’d be a good idea to work literally less than a foot next to me in the rack… I tried to tell her to watch it because I WILL DROP THE WEIGHT IF I FAIL

B. Rack Pull
warmup 135x6, 225x6
275x6, 295x6, 315x6, 315x6

  • Had to use a belt… my back was fucked

C. DB Split Squat
30x6/side
30x6/side
30x6/side
30x6/side

D1. Pull through
100x10
100x10
100x10
D2. Reverse Crunch
12
12
12

Phase 1, Day 12, Upper

A1. DB Push Press
50x6/side
50x6/side
50x6/side
50x6/side
60x6/side
60x6/side
A2. Weighted Chin
25x6
25x6
25x6
25x4 drop weight bwx2

  • I noticed last push press day I was dipping with my legs but not using much leg drive, that the reps were slow, and some weren’t even fully locked out. Today, I dipped, and explosively pressed (like a real push press, to the point that my heels were coming off the ground) into a full lockout

  • I did 50’s for the reps which were supersetted/alternated with chins. Then moved to 60’s. I know for a fact I could not have done more while supersetting.

  • I did chins in the smith rack.. using the top tower as a base. These weren’t close grip like the program calls for, but just side shoulder width.

B1. Push Up
10
10
10
10
B2. 1arm DB Row
65x8/side
65x8/side
70x8/side
70x7/side

  • Last set of rows my form started to break around rep 6 so I am not fully counting the last rep

C1. Kneeling Cable Ext Rot
7.5x12
5x12
5x12
C2. Prone Bridge
30s
30s

  • My quad/knee stated hurting again during the first set of bridges, and even worse in the 2nd. I decided not to push it. I think the lock out is putting a lot of strain on it? I don’t know..any input would helpful…

AND NEXT WEEK IS DE-LOAD, whoo

That’s a very strange problem you have going on there with the bridges. Keep up the foam rolling, experiement with different foot positioning and soft knees.

Your maxes aren’t far off from mine when I started the program so good luck.

3 wks in update

(note I am trying not to rely on the scale because mainly I want to get stronger, bigger, but at the same time, I’m presently not eating to ‘bulk’)

Start (2/23) | Current (3/16)

Hips 36 | 36.75
Waist at Belly button 32.5 | 32.5
Waist at Widest point 34 | 33.5
Arms (cold) 14.25 | 14.5
Thigh 23.25 | 24

Phase 1, Day 13, Lower

A. Box Squat
warmup barx6, 95x6, 135x6, 185x1
205x3, 205x3, 205x3

  • My glutes are sill soooore as hell from Friday… I caught myself flopping down on the last in or so on a rep or two

B. Speed Deadlift
260x2, 255x2, 255x2

  • 260 is pretty much 65% but the bar speed was slow once again, so I dropped 5lbs… I’m pretty sure it’s better to work on bar speed, than just up the weight

C. DB Walking Lunge (easy)
35x8/side
35x8/side

D1. Reverse Crunch
12, 12, 12
D2. Prone Bridge
30s, 30s, 30s

  • No pain today in the bridges… woo

Phase 1, Day 14, Upper
A. Bench
warmup barx10, 95x6, 135x6, 145x3, 175x1
185x3, 190x3, 195x3

  • All 3 work sets no spot/lift off. I didn’t know how it’d go since I was sore, but I probably should have done all 3 sets at 190.

B1. DB Neutral Grip Incline
50x10
55x10
B2. Medium Grip Pronated Cable Row
120x10
120x10
120x10

C1. Prone Trap Raises
5x12
8x12
5x12
C2. Side Lying Ext Rotation
5x12
8x12
5x12

  • These finally felt right

D2. Side Bridge
30s/side
30s/side
30s/side

My laptop is broken so I’m not gonna be able to update as often for the next week or two.

Phase 1, Day 15, Lower
A. Front Squat
165x6
165x6
165x6

B. Rack Pull
315x6
315x6

C. DB Split Squat
35x6/side
35x6/side

D1. Cable Pull Through
100x10
100x10
100x10
D2. Reverse Crunch
12, 12, 12

Phase 1, Day 16, Upper
A1. DB Push Press
55x6
60x6
60x6
A2. Weighted Chin
25x6
25x6
25x6

B1. Pushup
8
8
8
B2. 1arm DB Row
70x7
70x7
70x7

C1. Kneeling Cable Ext Rot
7.5x12
5x12
5x12
C2. Prone Bridge
30s
30s
30s

Phase 2, Day 16, Lower

A1. Front Squat
warmup barx5, 95x5, 135x5
170x[3x2] ** too heavy
165x[4x2]
165x[4x2]
165x[4x2]
165x[4x2]

  • These were hard as fuck. Did ~4 min rest between sets. I unrack/reracked weight each cluster and paused 10 sec wihtout the bar in my hand. Took a few more secs to get into position, and ready for each cluster. I don’t know if I was taking too long to get into position between each… I just know this was the hardest thing I’ve ever done

B1. DB Step Ups
35x8/side
40x8/side
45x8/side

  • 35 was easy… 40 was harder… my grip almost failed on the 45s. I used a box the same height as I use for box squats.

C1. Bar Rollout
55x5
50x8
50x8
C2. GHR
8
8
8

  • I don’t know If I was doing the bar rollouts. They were hard as hell. I thought I’d use 5lb plates to start… but dropped to 2.5lb plates. Also, the GHR’s are on a lat pull down … doing the negative and pushing up on a bench

D. Single Leg Squat to Box
10/side
10/side

  • I used a slightly higher than parallel box… the first set was hard, but I got used to it on the second. Will go lower next time.

I also just completed this, well, in January but the mobility and rolling we all worth it. I made big gains in my lifts too, so trust me when I say its worth it.

Ha, gotta be honest, not looking forward to the fron squat clusters at all.

Phase 2, Day 17, Upper

A1. Incline Bench
warmup barx10, 95x5, 135x5
135x[4x2]
140x[4x2]
145x[4x2]
140x[4x2]
140x[4x2]
A2. Weighted Pullup
10x[4x2]
10x[4x2]
10x[4x2]
10x[3x2], bw[1x2]
10x[3x2], bw[1x2]

  • Incline always bothered my shoulder… but I’m working with it. I hate pull ups. I feel/can do a lot more with chins.

B1. DB Bench
60x8
60x8
60x8
B2. Head Supported DB Row
50x6
40x8
35x10
35x10

  • I probably could have done more with bench… and the row was awkard… I don’t think I was doing it right at first. Do you rest your head full on it …or just lightly? I did an extra set to make up for the set with 50’s

C1. Cable Backhand
10x12
15x12
10x12
C2. Curl
35x10
35x8
30x10

  • I don’t know if I’m using my hips or twisting my lower back with the cable backhand… also I forgot to do zottman curls and did hammer curls

Phase 2, Day 18, Lower

A. Broad Jump
5x5

  • I did these in the basketball court and landing hurt my fucking heels… did 45-60sec rest bw each set

B. Deadlift (slightly elevated)
warmup 135x5, 225x5
275x5
295x5
315x5
315x4
315x4

  • I am fuckin shitty as hell with this. I tried to use a plate to elevate it… that didn’t work… so I used a mat under each side, folded in half. No matter what I did the bar bounced a little at the bottom, caused me to lose tightness. Also, my grip kept failing and my hands hurt like a mofo. I wanted to use 315 for all 5 work sets. I need to find something better to elevate the bar.

C. DB Reverse Lunge
35x6/side * too easy
40x6/side * too easy
45x6/side
50x6/side
55x6/side

  • I was trying to find my groove… I think 50’s are just right.

D. Pallof Press
10x12/side * too easy
15x12/side
20x12/side
20x12/side

[quote]gabex wrote:
Phase 2, Day 18, Lower

A. Broad Jump
5x5

  • I did these in the basketball court and landing hurt my fucking heels… did 45-60sec rest bw each set

B. Deadlift (slightly elevated)
warmup 135x5, 225x5
275x5
295x5
315x5
315x4
315x4

  • I am fuckin shitty as hell with this. I tried to use a plate to elevate it… that didn’t work… so I used a mat under each side, folded in half. No matter what I did the bar bounced a little at the bottom, caused me to lose tightness. Also, my grip kept failing and my hands hurt like a mofo. I wanted to use 315 for all 5 work sets. I need to find something better to elevate the bar.

C. DB Reverse Lunge
35x6/side * too easy
40x6/side * too easy
45x6/side
50x6/side
55x6/side

  • I was trying to find my groove… I think 50’s are just right.

D. Pallof Press
10x12/side * too easy
15x12/side
20x12/side
20x12/side[/quote]

Does your gym have those aerobic steps? They’re pretty durable, try those out for the elevated deads. This program’s tough man! You enjoying it?

Yeah, there are aerobic steps… but I think they might be a little too high.

I like the program. I’ll probably end up doing it more than once…

Phase 2, Day 19, Upper

A. Speed Bench
90x3 (10x)

B1. Close Grip Bench
135x5
155x5
155x5
160x5
160x5
B2. Prone Chest Supported Row
270x5
270x5
290x5
290x5

  • I should have used 160 as a work weight for the bench. The row I used the HS Iso Row machine and just stood up doing it… I dont know I might do something different next time

C1. Inverted Row
10
9
9
C2. Scapular Pushup
15
15
15