Matt Kroc Transitions to Janae Kroc

No. Muslims and Mexicans come in all races. Middle easterners come in all religions. Hispanics come in all nationalities. They absolutely do not share any inherit traits. What traits are you proposing are inherit to both Mexican, ethnicity, muslim and race?

I’m prepared to venture the guess that you don’t hold parallel standards for other religions and nationalities. If I were to say that the French are arrogant and rude, would you be claiming I’m racist against whites sense the vast majority of French are white? If not, why not?

I said the concepts (referring to the concepts of race, religion, nationality, etc) share traits. And they undeniably do–just check any boilerplate statement concerning compliance with EEOC guidelines for confirmation.

Okay, that won’t make your response make sense, but which shared traits did you mean?

For one thing, they have all been the basis upon which individuals have been subject to discrimination.

And? what does that have to do with me saying Trump hasn’t said anything bad about an ethnicity or about banning a race?

He has made remarks that negatively reflect on the similar concepts of nation of origin (Mexicans) and religion (Muslims).

So saying the French are rude is racist? Saying something negative about Christianity like Obamas “guns and religion” comment is also racist?

I don’t understand how what I’ve written would lead you to ask these questions. You clearly feel you’re making a point, but I for one am not seeing it.

Well, you’ve ducked the question multiple times. You said speaking bad about nationality or a religion is similar to racism. The question is to investigate if you really feel that way or if you are obfuscating.

A truck and a plane are similar concepts, but banning planes is quite a separate thing from banning trucks.

Bigotry concerning nation of origin, as well as bigotry concerning religion, are similar to bigotry concerning race (aka racism). That doesn’t mean (as you seem to think I am suggesting) that they are interchangeable.

So saying the french are rude or saying southerns cling to christianity is similar to racism? Or talking negatively about Israel?

I would say there is a difference between simply ‘saying the French are rude’ and being bigoted against people of French origin. So no.

So it’s a yes to christianity and israel?

Is that really what you think my failure to mention them means? Not that I was simply dispatching three identical arguments by dispensing with one of them?

Absolutely, there are plenty of people bigoted against israelies and saying very bigoted things. And the christianity comment was certainly hateful and bigoted. The French parallel isn’t there. Though I could certainly find some very bigoted comments about the French too, going far beyond rude.

In and of itself, I would say no.

“Talking negatively” is too vague and ill-defined to say.

Of course you’d say no, even though it clearly falls into the “similar to racism” category you outlined earlier. I think anyone whose read half a dozen of your posts in this thread could have predicted that answer. The only question is if you are honest, even with yourself, as to why.

Like I said earlier–I know you’re trying to make a point, but it is lost on me. If you wish to continue this discussion, please state your point as explicitly as you can.

I just read a post on my Facebook feed in which someone implied he intensely dislikes being identified as white, even though he is of Danish and Scandinavian heritage. This is getting VERY strange: people being annoyed as being identified as who and what they are!