Matt Kroc Transitions to Janae Kroc

Please clarify–are, you suggesting that, on balance, blacks have been done a disservice by the VRA?

As for the ‘wall of facts’ you presented, I’m not inclined to attempt to address them all. But if there’s one or two you find particularly important/telling, and you want to know what I think about them, let me know what they are and I’ll be happy to oblige.

I have never, ever made that argument. What I have argued is that it is telling that white supremacists are openly endorsing the current GOP POTUS candidate, and that this fact should give the GOP pause.

I’ll be off line for a few weeks, so if I don’t respond to someone, please know I’m not ignoring you.

We’ve wandered around on related tangents, and I’m sure you know more than you ever wanted to know about my not so deep thoughts.

Take care all of you!

My point was simply that in practice, Democratic policies have done a lot of harm.

That’s pretty weak sauce, my friend. First, his ‘support’ is premised on the assumption she actually harbors a ‘secret conservative agenda’–ie, that she is going to do the opposite of what she says she would do. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of her stated agenda. Second, as this person has been openly and enthusiastically supporting Trump for some time, it seems likely his sudden ‘conversion’ reflects an attempt to smear HRC. HuffPo covers it well:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/26/klan-leader-claims-kkk-has-given-20k-clinton-campa/

The party of choice, you mean. :wink:

Again, this is reactive–despite the SCOTUS putting this issue to bed 50+ years ago in Roe v Wade, the GOP continues to chip away at this constitutional right. So long as the GOP persists in their attempts to infringe on this right, the Dems will continue to pledge to uphold it. In other words, the Dems are fighting a rearguard action against ever-expanding GOP aggression on this front. Thus, to the extent that abortion rights are a “main Dem party platform issue,” it’s because the GOP gives us no choice.

This is true of all parties that have controlled the levers of power. Some decisions–no matter how well-intended–have yielded disastrous results.

And you! Hope you’re off to do something fun.

Oh, no shit sherlock. And while maybe you are more in touch with the white supremacist movement than I am and know what they really believe in their hearts, of course it’s more than a little fishy. That’s the point the guy appears to be boarder line mentally handicapped and incapable of rational thoughts. That’s kind of what makes them the lowest of the low. There is no good reason to put stock in the endorsement of crazy irrational people. If a white nationalist affects your judgment of a candidate or party irrespective of the policies, you’re a bit of a dunce. However, I’m curious just how you are distinguishing between their real irrational beliefs like the holocaust denial in this video and one of their not real irrational beliefs about a Hilary conspiracy.

I personally think it’s a not well disguised attempt to smear hilary too, but it’s entirely possible some of the more intelligent racists are just better at doing exactly the same thing, or that this idiot actually believes his nonsense. They are irrational ignorant people who ignore the facts and attempt to manipulate, hence I ignore them because they aren’t worth the time.

You are becoming unpleasant and personal, so this will be my last response to you until such time as you become more affable. Based on the volume and extent of the white-supremacist support that has spontaneously flowed to Trump, it is quite clear to me that these people both support him, and feel emboldened to speak up. (I am of course far from the only person to make this observation.) This in turn suggests that the GOP is in a bad place with respect to the public perception of its policies.

On the other hand, if you wish reject my assertions, and claim instead that these events represent a conspiracy of sorts among white supremacists to get HRC elected, all I can say is, that’s your business.

I never said anything about believing in any conspiracy. I said I don’t trust irrational lying bigots like white nationalists and the KKK. You’re the one claiming the KKK is conspiring to smear Hilary through false endorsements. Should Hilary take stock of her KKK endorsement? Of course not, because they are a few irrational idiots and normal people shouldn’t care what they claim to endorse.

In principle, I agree with you: Candidates cannot be held responsible for the crazies who come out of the woodwork to ‘endorse’ them. But when a particular type of crazie repeatedly endorses a particular candidate, that suggests the candidate in question has a particular appeal for the crazies in question. And when the candidate in question is the newly-anointed standard-bearer for one of the two major American political parties, it’s in the interest of the country for that party to ask itself why this is occurring.

Consider: Where were these white supremacists in 2000, 2004, 2008 and 2012? I don’t recall them offering the GOP candidates of those elections anything like the sort of public support they’re giving Trump. Why is that? Either the crazies have gotten crazier (doubtful), or there is something about Trump that really appeals to them, and makes them feel their support is welcome.

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Not sure what “hypocrisy” you think you’re pointing out here. To my eye, nothing you’ve posted is remotely related to the issue at hand.