Matt Kroc Transitions to Janae Kroc

You have clearly beaten me :slight_smile:

Yes. And I dare say most TNers following along would feel insulted by the implication of the question; ie, that they are the sort of person who might consider slavery acceptable. In like fashion, any non-sociopathic individual would feel insulted if you asked whether they believed rape was wrong, or child molestation, etc. And be honest–this includes you. That is, you would bristle if I suggested or implied that you might consider any of those activities acceptable (which is emphatically not my intent here).

Eddie and Punisher, do either of you have a firm conviction that slavery is wrong?” [emphasis mine]

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Sometimes it is better to be happy than right.

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I humbly decline your invitation. Perhaps at another time, and in person I will debate philosophy, but I do not find it enjoyable over the internet.

If you say so :slight_smile:

As have I. Take care, all.

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Push, I can’t help but think the “modern” culture that would best exemplify the principles carried for most of those “6,000 years” would be the Taliban, circa 2001. Modern Western culture, say 1850 and beyond, looks nothing like the culture, norms, and behaviors even 500 years earlier, much less 5,500 years earlier. But even in 1850 raping certain people was A-OK. Harming children was the norm, and if you wanted one to warm your bed or shovel your coals, well, all you need do was adopt or buy one. Even within families molestation was pretty well allowable - after all, who was there to protest? It wasn’t until those pesky do-gooders came marching onto the scene, poking their noses in where they didn’t belong and upsetting “6,000 year old” apple carts that stuff like incest became public debates and eventually crimes. Here, read for yourself:

Child sexual abuse became a public issue in the 1970s and 1980s. Prior to this point in time, sexual abuse remained rather secretive and socially unspeakable. Studies on child molestation were nonexistent until the 1920s and the first national estimate of the number of child sexual abuse cases was published in 1948. By 1968 44 out of 50 U.S. states had enacted mandatory laws that required physicians to report cases of suspicious child abuse. Legal action began to become more prevalent in the 1970s with the enactment of the Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act in 1974 in conjunction with the creation of the National Center for Child Abuse and Neglect. Since the creation of the Child Abuse and Treatment Act, reported child abuse cases have increased dramatically. Finally, the National Abuse Coalition was created in 1979 to create pressure in congress to create more sexual abuse laws.

So, you know, I don’t know. This may not be the firm foundation you need to support your argument, though I will certainly agree that theft has been met with swift and severe punishment through time - as long, that is, as the punisher has the wherewithal to mete it out. Otherwise I suppose we can call the “thieves” Pilgrims and the “victims” Injuns (or Africans or Scottish or Irish or English or French or Hungarians or, well, you get the point) and the whole thing breaks down.

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Any work that cites the ACP has completely discredited itself. As I pointed out many posts ago, the ACP is a fringe political advocacy group masquerading as a medical organization. They exist to provide a false patina of medical legitimacy for anti-trans political activity, as well as to hoodwink the lay public into thinking pediatricians as a whole are anti-trans.

Quite frankly, I am surprised The Federalist would publish such crap. I had thought better of them. This event consigns them to the World News Daily nether regions of the interwebz.

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