Masters for a Copper

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You know, its is so cute how you all love to break the law. In fact, I like even better that half of all the posters are from Australia.

To the marine- I do what I am paid to do. If I was in the marines, I would be employed to fight. With my job now, I am payed to enforce laws.

The way that you all talk, it makes it sound like that you would consider badged officers “snitches” for doing their job. If you don’t like a law, elect somebody to change it for you. Until then, out there, around every corner is a man with a badge, making sure people obey the law.

Ninety-nine percent of laws were enacted to protect people from there own damn selfs. I asked an honest question, asking other law enforcement professionals to reccommend a major for a masters degree, and I got a bunchof nitwits, half of them from australia, that obviously don’t respect the law, and don’t truly care to understand what i do.

I am guessing that some of you either truly don’t respect the law, or are the little guys that love to talk big on the internet, and are really Square Johns offline. If you break the law, and you get caught, you are going to get into trouble. I chose to do what I do now to give me a leg up on law enforcement, and you all are making it sound bad. ITs not, dea has undercover people everywhere.

Think of it this way, it is better that I check, and the clerk gets a ticket,then it is for little johnny to come totin` a case of beer, and him and the clerk both getting a ticket.

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
You know, its is so cute how you all love to break the law. In fact, I like even better that half of all the posters are from Australia.

To the marine- I do what I am paid to do. If I was in the marines, I would be employed to fight. With my job now, I am payed to enforce laws. [/quote]

Precisely. Therefore, you would not be a peace officer that protects and serves. You would be a law enforcement officer which is what most cops are. This makes you a meter maid with a gun. You sound like an official JBT in training. You should probably try to get in with the ATF. Or perhaps the FBI would be a better fit. There you can shoot nursing mothers from a hundred yards if their husbands buy sawed off shotguns. [quote]

The way that you all talk, it makes it sound like that you would consider badged officers “snitches” for doing their job. If you don’t like a law, elect somebody to change it for you. Until then, out there, around every corner is a man with a badge, making sure people obey the law.[/quote]

No, I consider officers enemies to liberty and traitors to this country every time they pull someone over for not wearing their seatbelts.[quote]

Ninety-nine percent of laws were enacted to protect people from there own damn selfs. [/quote] Jaw hits the floor You said it dude. I’m glad you are there to protect me from myself. I hope next time I try to sleep in instead of hit ther gym you’re there to wake me up. Or better yet, maybe you could hang outside of the local McDonalds and knock Big Macs out of the hands of fat chicks. Listen to what you just said man. This is some V for Vendetta, 1984 kind of dope you’re talking about. You are a threat to liberty. Jefferson would be ashamed [quote]I asked an honest question, asking other law enforcement professionals to reccommend a major for a masters degree, and I got a bunchof nitwits, half of them from australia, that obviously don’t respect the law, and don’t truly care to understand what i do.

I am guessing that some of you either truly don’t respect the law, or are the little guys that love to talk big on the internet, and are really Square Johns offline. If you break the law, and you get caught, you are going to get into trouble. I chose to do what I do now to give me a leg up on law enforcement, [/quote] which is why LEO’s suck [quote]and you all are making it sound bad. [/quote] because it is. [quote]ITs not, dea has undercover people everywhere. [/quote] And the DEA, BATFE, and FBI are some of the worst of em.

I gotta go to class man. I am realy not trying to be a dick here. I want you to see the light. Anyone that’s read my posts knows I rarely get down on guys like this, but I am really taken back by this.

Mike

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I don’t. I think cops should just sit outside the store and id the “kids” coming out. That would be way better. Get those little fuckers.

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:

Ninety-nine percent of laws were enacted to protect people from there own damn selfs.
[/quote]

I guess that sums it up.

Thank you for protecting people like me from the terrible dangers that come from making independent decisions.

Thank God that everytime a little lost sheep like me gets separated from the herd, someone friendly with a gun reminds me of my place in life and leads me back to the herd, if I want to or not.

Excuse me while I go buy some serious liquor to numb the pain.

PS: this board has an entire section full of people you could help save from themselves.

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[quote]bigroman wrote:

Youre a turd, first of all dont call me a bich you wannabe tough guy punk, secondly I dont like snitches and never will, I dont see why they send people in to purposely try to fool store owners into selling them things they shouldnt be buying and lastly I dont even see the point of having age restrictions on things like alcohol and ciggarettes, like youre gonna get them either way, they may atleast make it easier for you.

It doesnt matter how old you are alcohol makes you do dumb shit at any age. And smoking theres not even a point to having restrictions because its so easy to buy them or get someone else to buy them it doesnt realy matter.[/quote]

Apparently you don’t care for apostrophes either.

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Stinging, the PC term for snitching.

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Fife, I think you have a bright future as an IA detective.

That whole thing about not respecting the law is retarded. My Dad a highly decorated police officer and has seen it all.We are a family of cops, and if this whole psych things falls through for me (which it probably will) I will either join the OPP, or Toronto Police Service.

He has worked Vice, Public Safety(riot squad), all forms of uncercover (you think it he did it). Hell, he was the UC on one of the biggest busts on child porn in canadian history. He is still a UC on projects which are high risk. Why am I telling you this, touting his horn so to speak, because last week we saw a “sting” similar to this take place on some poor guy at the gas station selling cigarettes to a minor. The guy looked to be 30-40 (kinda like you).

He was disgusted. A man who upholds the law and has since 1976. The main fact being was this guy looked to be much older than he was, again like you. You are taking advantge of these clerks. You look to be quite older than you are.

I know it may feel cool, almost like your already a cop. Yeah you get to “sting” guys for selling to minors and you get “field” experience, but at what price to your self dignity?

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I shaved my mustache. Look at my Avatar picture for an idea of about how I look. Let me tell you something, if a minor wants to buy alcohol, they don’t go in looking 17, they try to look older. I look MAYBE 25. The policy on file at most places is card anyone appearing younger then 27.

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[quote]doogie wrote:
bigroman wrote:

Youre a turd, first of all dont call me a bich you wannabe tough guy punk, secondly I dont like snitches and never will, I dont see why they send people in to purposely try to fool store owners into selling them things they shouldnt be buying and lastly I dont even see the point of having age restrictions on things like alcohol and ciggarettes, like youre gonna get them either way, they may atleast make it easier for you.

It doesnt matter how old you are alcohol makes you do dumb shit at any age. And smoking theres not even a point to having restrictions because its so easy to buy them or get someone else to buy them it doesnt realy matter.

Apparently you don’t care for apostrophes either.
[/quote]

Hey lets not get personal here :stuck_out_tongue:

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[quote]infin|ty wrote:

Think of it this way, it is better that I check, and the clerk gets a ticket,then it is for little johnny to come totin` a case of beer, and him and the clerk both getting a ticket.

I don’t. I think cops should just sit outside the store and id the “kids” coming out. That would be way better. Get those little fuckers.
[/quote]

Last time I checked it wasnt illegal for them to buy it, it was just illegal for it to be sold to them.

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[quote]bigroman wrote:
infin|ty wrote:

Think of it this way, it is better that I check, and the clerk gets a ticket,then it is for little johnny to come totin` a case of beer, and him and the clerk both getting a ticket.

I don’t. I think cops should just sit outside the store and id the “kids” coming out. That would be way better. Get those little fuckers.

Last time I checked it wasnt illegal for them to buy it, it was just illegal for it to be sold to them.[/quote]

Does your computer have a Senschek? Because what you just posted makes none.

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[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
BarneyFife,
Lots of folks hate cops, then again, they hate anyone who is successful. These days everyone thinks it’s their constitutional right to break the law. Remember this the next time you don’t feel like training or eating right!!!

Actually it is my constitutional right to break the law when the law is unconstitutional, or at least against the spirit of the document. What right does the police have to charge me for a felony for internet gambling, unlicensed concealed carry of a defensive handgun, or not wearing a seatbelt?

Would it be okay to rat someone out for doing that? People tend to think that just because a law was imposed by our representatives that it is okay. Well slavery was legal 150 years ago but it was never “okay”. I can see you slapping the handcuffs on Harriet Tubman right now. Following bullshit laws is simply the coward’s way out. As Andrew Eliot said in 1765, " When tyranny is abroad, submission is a crime."

–Mike[/quote]

Well Jesus said to obey the laws of the land.

Who says it’s unconstitutional, you? What gives you such authority? BTW do you interpret the Constitution more like Scalia or like Earl Warren?

If you don’t like the laws your Representatives pass then VOTE THEM OUT!!!

As a deputy sheriff I was sworn to protect the Constitution of the United States and uphold the laws of the State of Texas. I didn’t get to pick n choose which laws I enforced. As I’m no longer in that line of work I won’t be “slapping the cuffs” on anyone. If I pass the bar in a few months I might be prosecuting someone such as Ms. Tubbman. Look at Operation Rescue, my personal belief is that abortion is basically murder but I don’t get to make that choice and I may someday have to prosecute those folks, wether I agree with it or not.

I don’t agree with a lot of our current drug/prostitution/gambling laws or the rediculous amount of regulation we do of the alcohol industry, but that is the law of our land as it stands and you don’t get to pick n choose which laws to obey. To follow your way would violate the very rule of law that our country is based on, and would result in chaos.

It bothers me that BarneyFife is showing a lot of ambition in his chosen profession and so many are busting on him. I guess they’d rather he’d be on welfare?

Anyway, have a good day sir.

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[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
Actually it is my constitutional right to break the law when the law is unconstitutional, or at least against the spirit of the document. What right does the police have to charge me for a felony for internet gambling, unlicensed concealed carry of a defensive handgun, or not wearing a seatbelt?

Would it be okay to rat someone out for doing that? People tend to think that just because a law was imposed by our representatives that it is okay. Well slavery was legal 150 years ago but it was never “okay”. I can see you slapping the handcuffs on Harriet Tubman right now. Following bullshit laws is simply the coward’s way out. As Andrew Eliot said in 1765, " When tyranny is abroad, submission is a crime."

–Mike[/quote]

Alright, so what about kids buying alcohol is “OK?” If you’re stupid enough to not wear your seatbelt, that’s your problem. The greedy pigs have decided to cash in on the stupidity. What’s so hard about it, anyway? it takes about 2 seconds. It’s got to be the easiest fine to avoid. It’s much better to buckle up than rant about how tyrannical the law is.

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[quote]bigroman wrote:
Last time I checked it wasnt illegal for them to buy it, it was just illegal for it to be sold to them.[/quote]

I’ve had friends get tickets just for havine alcohol underage.

I think the drinking age concept is a bunch of shit, too, since obviously kids have no problem getting their hands on booze, anyway. I just think your concept of snitch is way too broad. Fife isn’t betraying anyone, not selling out his friends, and probably not doing it because it makes him feel like a “real cop”. He’s just doing a job, so that later on, he can get the career he wants. He owes nothing to the guy in the liquorstore, who knows he’s taking a risk by not doing his job properly.

As far as DEA and FBI and so on, I really don’t know how they operate.

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[quote]Kratos wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
Actually it is my constitutional right to break the law when the law is unconstitutional, or at least against the spirit of the document. What right does the police have to charge me for a felony for internet gambling, unlicensed concealed carry of a defensive handgun, or not wearing a seatbelt?

Would it be okay to rat someone out for doing that? People tend to think that just because a law was imposed by our representatives that it is okay. Well slavery was legal 150 years ago but it was never “okay”. I can see you slapping the handcuffs on Harriet Tubman right now. Following bullshit laws is simply the coward’s way out. As Andrew Eliot said in 1765, " When tyranny is abroad, submission is a crime."

–Mike

Alright, so what about kids buying alcohol is “OK?” If you’re stupid enough to not wear your seatbelt, that’s your problem. The greedy pigs have decided to cash in on the stupidity. What’s so hard about it, anyway? it takes about 2 seconds. It’s got to be the easiest fine to avoid. It’s much better to buckle up than rant about how tyrannical the law is. [/quote]

This is not how it works.

First I used to buckle up.

Then I did not to spite them. Most of them did not give a shit, they only fined me when other things were also against the law, like me using my cell phone while driving.

Now, I buckle up in spite of the law.

Do you get that?

If there is one thing that prevents me from doing the right thing, it is the law that forces me to do the right thing.

The very fact that someone else tries to dictate what is right for me allmost forces me to take the chance.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Kratos wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
Actually it is my constitutional right to break the law when the law is unconstitutional, or at least against the spirit of the document. What right does the police have to charge me for a felony for internet gambling, unlicensed concealed carry of a defensive handgun, or not wearing a seatbelt?

Would it be okay to rat someone out for doing that? People tend to think that just because a law was imposed by our representatives that it is okay. Well slavery was legal 150 years ago but it was never “okay”. I can see you slapping the handcuffs on Harriet Tubman right now. Following bullshit laws is simply the coward’s way out. As Andrew Eliot said in 1765, " When tyranny is abroad, submission is a crime."

–Mike

Alright, so what about kids buying alcohol is “OK?” If you’re stupid enough to not wear your seatbelt, that’s your problem. The greedy pigs have decided to cash in on the stupidity. What’s so hard about it, anyway? it takes about 2 seconds. It’s got to be the easiest fine to avoid. It’s much better to buckle up than rant about how tyrannical the law is.

This is not how it works.

First I used to buckle up.

Then I did not to spite them. Most of them did not give a shit, they only fined me when other things were also against the law, like me using my cell phone while driving.

Now, I buckle up in spite of the law.

Do you get that?

If there is one thing that prevents me from doing the right thing, it is the law that forces me to do the right thing.

The very fact that someone else tries to dictate what is right for me allmost forces me to take the chance.[/quote]

Orion let me see if i understand you, and correct me if im wrong. you base your decision to wear (or not wear) a seatbelt not on the fact it could save your life, but rather to “spite” the government?

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[quote]Bootsie wrote:
orion wrote:
Kratos wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
Actually it is my constitutional right to break the law when the law is unconstitutional, or at least against the spirit of the document. What right does the police have to charge me for a felony for internet gambling, unlicensed concealed carry of a defensive handgun, or not wearing a seatbelt?

Would it be okay to rat someone out for doing that? People tend to think that just because a law was imposed by our representatives that it is okay. Well slavery was legal 150 years ago but it was never “okay”. I can see you slapping the handcuffs on Harriet Tubman right now. Following bullshit laws is simply the coward’s way out. As Andrew Eliot said in 1765, " When tyranny is abroad, submission is a crime."

–Mike

Alright, so what about kids buying alcohol is “OK?” If you’re stupid enough to not wear your seatbelt, that’s your problem. The greedy pigs have decided to cash in on the stupidity. What’s so hard about it, anyway? it takes about 2 seconds. It’s got to be the easiest fine to avoid. It’s much better to buckle up than rant about how tyrannical the law is.

This is not how it works.

First I used to buckle up.

Then I did not to spite them. Most of them did not give a shit, they only fined me when other things were also against the law, like me using my cell phone while driving.

Now, I buckle up in spite of the law.

Do you get that?

If there is one thing that prevents me from doing the right thing, it is the law that forces me to do the right thing.

The very fact that someone else tries to dictate what is right for me allmost forces me to take the chance.

Orion let me see if i understand you, and correct me if im wrong. you base your decision to wear (or not wear) a seatbelt not on the fact it could save your life, but rather to “spite” the government?[/quote]

Not any more but I did. Now they can just blow me.

And yes that was stupid, but maybe necessary in the grand scheme of things.

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[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
Young Devil Dog wrote:
hey fife, you want to get a leg up on the compitition for a federal law job? Join the marine corps. Yeah man. Go do security forces or try to get into guarding the embassys. You meet alot of higher ups from federal agencies. You would get all kinds of offers for cia, border guard, dea and so on and so forth.

I don’t want him in my corps. Sounds like the kind of guy that would get his rocks off busting underage Marines for drinking in the barracks and screwing up the careers of good fighting men.

Mike[/quote]

Mike,

Your pry right. But many he would get an “attitude adjustment”. Im sure his fellow devils would “correct” him. Especially since the corps is full of us “underage” drinkers. First time he snitch on them he would most defiantly have stiches. Friendly fire is a bitch.

Semper Fi

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[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
BarneyFife,
Lots of folks hate cops, then again, they hate anyone who is successful. These days everyone thinks it’s their constitutional right to break the law. Remember this the next time you don’t feel like training or eating right!!!

Actually it is my constitutional right to break the law when the law is unconstitutional, or at least against the spirit of the document. What right does the police have to charge me for a felony for internet gambling, unlicensed concealed carry of a defensive handgun, or not wearing a seatbelt?

Would it be okay to rat someone out for doing that? People tend to think that just because a law was imposed by our representatives that it is okay. Well slavery was legal 150 years ago but it was never “okay”. I can see you slapping the handcuffs on Harriet Tubman right now. Following bullshit laws is simply the coward’s way out. As Andrew Eliot said in 1765, " When tyranny is abroad, submission is a crime."

–Mike

Well Jesus said to obey the laws of the land.

Who says it’s unconstitutional, you? What gives you such authority? BTW do you interpret the Constitution more like Scalia or like Earl Warren?
[/quote]

The same thing that gave washington and jefferson the right to pick up a gun and rebel against their country.

So which is it, were the fathers of our country scumbag rulebreakers, or does mikeyali have a point?

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[quote]KBCThird wrote:
The same thing that gave washington and jefferson the right to pick up a gun and rebel against their country.

So which is it, were the fathers of our country scumbag rulebreakers, or does mikeyali have a point?
[/quote]

So how exactly did we go from enforcing piddly laws to overthrowing the Government by force? Serving alcohol is a license granted by the government, there are rules involved, and it’s a huge cash cow. Consdering how many people are killed by drunk drivers I don’t care how much he snitches.

Yeah Washington and Jefferson rebelled, but it was over something a bit more important than underage drinking and a seat belt law.

They also set up a new set of laws, and a democratic form of government with seperation of powers and checks and balances. They did not set up an anarchy state. I guess you consider the entire executive branch to be the snitch branch?

Again, if you don’t agree with these laws, you have recourse through the political and judicial process. It sounds like you’d rather take up arms and revolt, or atleast talk about it on a message board.