[quote]pushharder wrote:
Here we go with blaming the candidate who lost instead of the Dems who lost it for her, i.e., Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et al.
You don’t lose a seat long held by Chappy Kennedy to a Republican JUST because you “ran a shitty campaign.” Wait til November, you’ll see shitty campaigns being run in blue states all over the country and donkeys aka ostriches will be burying their heads in the sand moaning and groaning about…shitty campaigns.[/quote]
Wow, that was pretty cryptic. Was that supposed to make sense?
So we should blame Coakley’s loss on Pelosi, Reid and Obama, and not on her lazy and dumb campaign? That’s too incredibly deep for me, I’m more of a practical fellow. When people lose an election, I usually assume that they are to blame, first and foremost.
[quote]John S. wrote:
The Tea Party is what won him this race. You can see in the polls, he was trailing by by a bit. They announced support and he surged ahead. At least we know health care is dead.[/quote]
She ran a shitty campaign…
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Here we go with blaming the candidate who lost instead of the Dems who lost it for her, i.e., Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et al.
You don’t lose a seat long held by Chappy Kennedy to a Republican JUST because you “ran a shitty campaign.” Wait til November, you’ll see shitty campaigns being run in blue states all over the country and donkeys aka ostriches will be burying their heads in the sand moaning and groaning about…shitty campaigns.[/quote]
The blogs are afire this morning blaming Coakley’s “shitty campaign” for her loss. All following Jon Stewart’s B.S. ramble last night about Coakley’s “shitty campaign”.
Had Caoakley won, we would hear nothing of her “shitty campaign” and everything about how Brown lost because of a “shitty campaign”.
It’s just fucking hilarious to see the left foaming at the mouth.
What amazes me is that liberals lie to get elected then are amazed that people get mad when they don’t do what they said they would do.
If the Pelosis and Reids and Obamas said what they actually wanted to do, they would never win. Transparency in government, but some 1000+ page bill is written behind closed doors, promises to raise taxes, and is done in a partisan manner, and they are amazed that people get mad.
Tell the truth of what you want, stop the lies, and explain why what you want is best. straight up.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
Olberman - what a cocksucker.
And the fucking idiot replacing Anita Hill says he agrees with her about views on Fox - it’s not a real news channel, like MSNBC. [/quote]
Let them believe all the nonsense they believe in. I remember when it was to close to call in the Carter/Reagan election year. Lying starts with yourself, and it’s the toughest lie to get over.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Yep…I wish we had the transparency and truthfulness of Bush and Cheney again…
Mufasa[/quote]
But did he run on this will be the most transparent administration ever? Did he raise the debt X times more in just a year? We have a choice between two guys in a presidential election.
Depend in the political landscape, do you want to give the White house to the liberals? I’d rather have a half ass conservative than a liberal. To me it’s like choosing between bunion surgery and open heart surgery. or maybe getting the flu and getting shot.
It’s a lot easier to recover from a guy like Bush, than this goof, if he gets his way.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Yep…I wish we had the transparency and truthfulness of Bush and Cheney again…
Mufasa[/quote]
Does this help anything? They were bad so who cares if the guys I support are bad? Stop being a hypocryte. This is possibly the single most destructive trait of the american voter. It’s called blinders. It’s never your guys fault or your guys problem. Also, you can go back and look at my posting record. I was not in favor of pretty much anything Bush did. Mufasa, I’m actually shocked you could write that. I remember you as a deep thinking, thoughtful person. Even if you leaned liberal on issues, you gave the impression of a solid individual. The above does not reflect that.
Did you think Bush Derangement Syndrome would cure itself all by itself in just one year?
As an example, last night on the news I saw either a media analyst or a Democrat spokeswoman (can’t remember which, sorry: it wasn’t a person I had ever seen before) attribute Coakley’s loss to… Bush!
I have absolutely no idea. The person was simply asked a question as to whether Brown’s win indicated the voters disagreeing with the direction the Democrats have been taking, or was it simply that Coakley ran a poor campaign, and the answer was that no, Bush caused the situation and the loss.
If I had to guess at how BDS yielded this response, then I’d say it was:
Automatic reflexive reaction that Bush is to be blame
Mental justification that any trouble that Obama had is due to Bush, therefore if voters are unhappy with Obama, it can only be because of Bush, not Obama himself.
I fully admit that I’m a little burned out and cynical about it all at this point.
I’m probably not alone.
Mufasa[/quote]
I understand, please know that this was a sign that people are wking up. Some of the loss might have been due to healthcare, but I think it had more to do with people getting sick and tired of being lied to. Obama was going to be different, he was going to be the savior, yet once again, he is following the exact same path that republicans and democrats before him have tread. Not doing what he promised. Doing things that the people of this country do not want.
Frank Lunz (sp?) had an interesting focus group on the question of why the Massachusetts voters in the group voted as they did (quite a few voted for Coakley.)
Very often repeated was extreme opposition at how the Democrats have been working in a ram-it-down-our-throats manner, with absolutely zero interest in producing bills that most people could agree on. Even the Coakley voters in the group thought that the Democrat leadership ought to have been working in a bipartisan way and that Obama had promised this but their actual behavior was the exact opposite.
And btw, in watching CSPAN it’s clear that there were many Republicans that DID try to work with the process and could well have voted for a more middle-of-the-road bill. It is not that it was a lost cause to get Republican votes on an actual health care REFORM bill.
“…He (Obama) is following the exact same path that Republicans AND Democrats (emphasis added) before him have tread. Not doing what he promised. Doing things that the people of this country do not want…”
My feeling is that the problem with the way our Government runs is a SYSTEMIC problem…and who sits (or sleeps) in a Congressional Seat (or dare I say occupies the White House?)…may make one feel better…but does not fundamentally change things.
