My son is considering these fields in his undergrad, and I spoke with an older professor from Canada, and he suggested looking into CyberSecurity as a good field for career track.
I think there are some Masters of Engineering degree variants, but both of these fall under B.S and M.S.
That’s what everyone says, and I haven’t heard anything to dispute it. It’s a very good paying field and it’s always in demand.
I know the basics as a byproduct of my bachelor’s. Security protocols, pen testing, etc. But its not my interest.
If I were to go that route, being a penetration tester would be the way I’d want to go… basically a paid hacker trying to exploit systems so the company knows their vulnerabilities.
Walk with me a bit here, as I am sensitive to our history.
I am guessing these are not Engineering degrees - they are MS in … That doesn’t mean they lack value, you should just be clear on what the career path is. A quick Google search yields different results - some schools offer an MS, others an ME. I have no clue, but it might be something for you to consider, but you most likely have already.
I know your undergrad was in something computers, but not sure if it covered all of the undergrad requirements to matriculate to a graduate Engineering program.
Read some Malcolm Gladwell stuff on the value of education. Figure out what you want to do, and go for it.
I had a 2.29 from undergrad, roughly a 3.8 in my credential and two graduate degrees (which were over rated btw).
The one’s I’ve looked at specifically are MS, but ME side is definitely where I’d rather be, so I thank you for the prompt. Both are valuable, I just didn’t understand the difference.
For the programs I’ve looked at, it seems to be 95% of the way there, if not 100%. The ones where there may be a gap seem like that gap could be accommodated for with elective credits. I was concerned about this too as my degree is very… generalized, but the MS or ME degree would be very specialized.
I can do well in school if and when I want to. My problem has always been ‘wanting’ to. If I go through with this, I have to want to do and learn all of it - not just get it done.
Thank you for your insights - I don’t know many people with advanced degrees so I have very little guidance and perspective.
I am not sure those with advanced degrees are the best guidance, just one perspective to consider.
My brother Jon graduated from Stanford with two degrees, Biology and German, lol. He went to Medical School - kind of an outlier for this discussion.
My oldest brother has an advanced Law Degree from NYU - an LLM in Tax and Estates in addition to a CPA.
I put my first wife through Med School at George Washington.
My graduate degrees were both online at little known institutions and, in my opinion, carry little weight. I got them both to get salary treatment as a teacher and to mitigate my feelings of being an impostor.
It worked.
My current wife got an MS in Education while I was married to her (I helped her with her work).
My best friend is a graduate of Hastings Law, and his wife is a graduate of UCSF Medical School.
I suspect there are many others here that have graduate degrees, or are familiar with them. It’s a good forum - as you well know.
Save the occasional asshole having a bad day, lol.
Growth mind, process oriented. You seem imminently capable of this.
Best books on the subject are The Case for Father Custody and The Garbage Generation: On The Need for Patriarchy by Dr. Daniel Amneus, both free online. Anyone who wants to learn how mass single motherhood utterly screws children up and is a drain on society at large should read them.
24:00 mark is where the brutal stats are mentioned.
I believe the first “garbage generation” came about in Gen X. It’s no coincidence that in the ten years from 1985 to 1995, the prison population of both black and white men doubled.
I earned a MS in Instructional Leadership, and a second in Special Ed. With my MS in Spec Ed I could be a stumbling drunk and find a job just about anywhere I want. About 5 years ago the US Virgin Islands wanted me to interview. (I was not a stumbling drunk, nor am I, just to clarify.) My wife destroyed that dream. I teach history now (which I wish I had earned my MA). When I was Spec Ed I would get emails and phone calls at work asking me to interview. I finally asked a principal from Ely, Nevada how she heard of me? She told me a friend of hers in Montana gave her a heads up. I also earned my MSs from a little known commuter college in Sacramento. I have no idea if they have helped professionally, other than putting me well up on the pay scale. But, they pull little weight as well.
Incline Chest Press (Machine)
“Top set, backdown rest pause
3010
+30s extreme stretch”
Set 1: 315 lbs x 9
Set 2: 225 lbs x 12 [Failure]
Set 3: 225 lbs x 5 [Failure]
Set 4: 225 lbs x 3 [Failure]
Butterfly (Pec Deck)
“Top set, backdown rest pause
3010
+15s extreme stretch
*should have been 30s”
Set 1: 200 lbs x 11
Set 2: 140 lbs x 13 [Failure]
Set 3: 140 lbs x 6 [Failure]
Set 4: 140 lbs x 5 [Failure]
Rear Delt Reverse Fly (Machine)
“Partials, rest pause
3010
*stop early, right shoulder”
Set 1: 175 lbs x 16 [Failure]
Shoulder Press (Dumbbell)
“Fly, fail x2”
Set 1: 50 lbs x 20 [Failure]
Set 2: 50 lbs x 16 [Failure]
Triceps Rope Pushdown
“Top set, backdown rest pause
3010”
Set 1: 110 lbs x 10
Set 2: 80 lbs x 12 [Failure]
Set 3: 80 lbs x 6 [Failure]
Set 4: 70 lbs x 5 [Failure]
Triceps Dip (Weighted)
@hevyapp
+10mins LISS
Right shoulder was giving me some issues.
2nd night of fuckered sleep. Definitely impacted performance - most notably on Triceps Pushdown.
Spoke with a career advisor and have some things to take care of. Stress is already lower.
Master’s degree stuff is on the back burner… we’ll go that route if i have to, but not until then.
Looking for part time work i can do remotely to give me in-field experience.
Post reminds me of the essay “Rotating Polyandry and Its Enforcers” in the book Sexual Utopia in Power, which everyone who knows me might be sick of me recommending.
Pertinent quote: “Delivering an ultimatum, be it noted, is incompatible with such sacred bromides as “commitment” and “unconditional love.” One lesson to be drawn from Women’s Infidelity is that husbands need to be less committed to their wives rather than more. Without legal enforcement of the marriage contract, the threat of abandonment seems to be the only thing that sometimes keeps women in line. Rather than fulminating against men who “love ’em and leave ’em,” we might do better to hold ticker-tape parades in honor of husbands who say “enough is enough” and walk out; at least wives would have an incentive to keep their men happy. In any case, the women Langley describes hardly seem to deserve undying loyalty.”
@Andrewgen_Receptors I don’t want to jam up your thread with general male issues if you want to keep it mostly on training. It’s obvious to others that m posting focus for the last few years deal with them versus diet and exercise. Most of my “radical” positions, including political ones have to deal with them and I didn’t want to jam up the other thread either.
Should we keep our posts in your thread mostly on training or are you OK with talk of these matters too?
The only power we have is the power to walk away, and most men are terrified to use it.
As long as its about training or male issues - I’m cool with it being here.
I’d much prefer it to be red pill and adjacent content… basically just meaning if we’re going to discuss the problem - we should also discuss the solution.
Glad it’s taken that way, I have a different view but that’s my view, and I’m always interested to see others points of view, get to understand them and see what there is to learn. I never understand why people are so keen to make others have the exact same view as themselves, it seems like every interaction is a zero sum game, this bloody mindedness seems to have massively increased over the past decade (basically since the invention of social media - a lot to answer for, toxic crap).
Funny I’ve never felt like I’m earning sex, my wife has made a joke or two about it over the years and I’ve shut her down on it, from my perspective if I’m having to earn sex then that makes her a prostitute, and that’s a hard no from me.
Haha I like that, a less cliché way of saying be the best version of yourself that you can be.
Having said I have a different view from you in the above, I’ve reflected on this over the past few days since reading it, she definitely views it that way in her mind, I’d say where I differ is that I have spent quite a long time trying to build her up so she doesn’t feel that way (clearly not that successfully!).
Had this scenario with a close friend of hers a few years back, was a painful situation (nothing happened but it was increasingly obvious to both of us what the other woman was after). Didn’t do anything positive for our relationship at all.
I’m curious how your view is different from mine, tbh.
I believe that traditional conservative values and relationships are the best for society and for the family unit.
I also believe know that the rules of the game have changed such that men who operate based on traditional conservative values - get taken advantage of in the worst ways
His children are kidnapped
Half his assets are stolen
Half his future income is indefinitely garnished to support a woman who is now sleeping with someone else
a house that used to be his
So the best way for a man to still get what he wants out of life is to operate with a set of tools that doesn’t necessarily reflect his values or what is objectively best for society.
Maybe that last bullet point is where we’ve got differing views?
Again, feel free to not answer this - the questions are only to support my opinion.
Does your wife initiate sex the majority of the time? Have the women you’ve slept with before been the initiators, or did you have to “win” them over?
I think almost every guy on the planet has had to be the pursuer of sex.
My point being, that even if you don’t see it as “earning” sex, it generally isn’t given to you (or any man) without having done something to earn it. Even if that something wasn’t intentional.
I appreciate you taking the time to reflect on this.
I’d wager that your lack of success in building her up is actually a good thing for your relationship
If you’re interested, here’s an article that goes further into explaining the differences in women’s treatment of men with regards to relative sexual marketplace value.
Tagging @BrickHead as I think we’ve discussed this topic before but I couldn’t find the article.
This writer (Rollo Tomassi) very much so aligns with my own opinions on the state of intersexual relationships, and he’s got a few books that go into this stuff. Again, only if you’re interested.
I think this is going to be more of an outlier given the personal nature of it; I’m sorry y’all had to go through that, tbh.
I meant it moreso through the lens that women typically want men who are wanted by other women. Anecdotally i started getting more looks after I got my ring tattoo. Adam Sandler was in a movie where he was single but wore a wedding band to fake preselection… it wouldn’t have been a movie if there weren’t some truth to it.
It happens to me every time my wife comes to the gym with me.
(it helps to be the big fish in a small pond)
*I don’t see that this happens when the genders are reversed… other dudes checking out my wife doesn’t make me want her more.
My views are largely formed around and from my faith, you’ve mentioned in the past you would be willing to walk away from your marriage, I hold a view that marriage is sacred and the vows taken literally, till death do us part, I don’t believe in divorce and remarriage.
I believe that both sexes are equal in terms of intrinsic value and worth, but work best when holding complimentary roles, I’m not sure how much this differs from your view, if at all - I’m happy for women to have the right to vote (I don’t spend much time in the office topic section, but I caught that from one of your posts, I don’t recall if you have a reasoning for that view?) but that doesn’t really impact the conversation here.
I believe that the traditional nuclear family and associated values is best for society. Which is pretty close to the statement here.
This is definitely where we’d differ, if you’re operating outside of your values, are those values really your values? More like ideals, than values at that point.
I also take less of an individualistic point of view here, that life isn’t specifically for me to get what I want out of, I’m keen to make sure that I make a positive impact for others as much as possible (again particularly influenced by my faith). Maybe I don’t always get what I want in the process, but I’m ok with, because that wasn’t my purpose in the first place. (And I certainly don’t get it right all the time, I can still be far more self focused than what I’d strive to be).
Yea this was the most difficult point of our marriage and was very damaging, might have been because it wasn’t just a bit of an attention from the other party, but more like an active pursuit. It’s definitely made me more cautious in my interactions with the opposite sex.
Lots of different phases here, feels like the ebb and flow of life. We might be unusual as we’re particularly compatible in the bedroom, both have a very high drive.
In the early stages of our relationship (closing 15 years) it didn’t feel initiated by either party, just that kind of early stage lust where you’re just ripping each others clothes off at every opportunity. Then as we got more into routine of life, it was probably me initiating more, recently it’s been all her (might be closing in on menopause territory, I hear that makes women hornier), but I’m more than happy to oblige. One thing I noticed is that she’ll do occasionally; she’s happy to initiate, but likes to try and frame it post sex as my idea, so that might speak to some of the psychology behind what you’ve talked about, but that’s not all the time.
Bicep Curl (Cable)
“V Bar, top set, backdown step back fail x2
3010”
Set 1: 120 lbs x 19
Set 2: 100 lbs x 18 [Failure]
Set 3: 90 lbs x 17 [Failure]
Seated Cable Row - V Grip (Cable)
“Top set, backdownRest Pause
3010
+30s extreme stretch”
Set 1: 190 lbs x 15
Set 2: 150 lbs x 14 [Failure]
Set 3: 150 lbs x 7 [Failure]
Set 4: 150 lbs x 4 [Failure]
Lat Pulldown (Cable)
“Top set, backdown
3010”
Set 1: 210 lbs x 7
Set 2: 150 lbs x 11 [Failure]
Straight Arm Lat Pulldown (Cable)
“Top set, backdown
3010
+30s extreme stretch”
Set 1: 70 lbs x 15
Set 2: 60 lbs x 9
EZ Bar Biceps Curl
“Reverse Grip, Fat Gripz, Rest Pause
3010”
Set 1: 65 lbs x 15 [Failure]
Set 2: 65 lbs x 10 [Failure]
Set 3: 65 lbs x 6 [Failure]
Shrug (Smith Machine)
Letting trap/shoulder recover another round.
@hevyapp
Checked in with coach yesterday. We’re on 200g carbs, 225 protein, 30 fat.
Poor progress last week, which is my fault… i let stress get to me and it fucked up my sleep, which impacted everything else.
Stress is reducing and sleep is improving, i just need to execute. I’m fucking tired of spinning my wheels.
I dont believe they should be a thing, but they are - and they’re one sided. This leads into my reasoning below.
Women are inherently more valuable than men. A woman is sometimes replaceable, but a man always is. One man can sire a couple thousand offspring per year and one woman can have one or two babies in that same timeframe.
Accepting that we’re replaceable is a brutal red pill that most men don’t want to swallow, though often times, they’re forced to (usually by divorce or infidelity).
100% agree that relationships and society works best when we are complimentary to each other. Nowadays I see it far more often that we don’t work in compliment, but in competition (not a woman and a man, but all women and all men are competing for the same roles in society).
What do you call it when you have values, but operating in accordance with them means you cannot get what you want out of life and love?
I’m not sure, but “ideal” is probably a better term.
You guys have a pretty awesome sex life; I’d cherish that too.
Dating and early marriage, we didn’t do much other than bedroom cardio. Honeymoon phase was interrupted and then sex all but disappeared for a few years. Yeah, she’s the one that shut it down, but I wasn’t provoking her interest in it - so I accept it as my fault.
It slowly got better as I got in better shape, but it didn’t become “acceptable” for me until maybe the last year or so.
Now we’re at a point that i don’t know many/any married couples that do what we do with the frequency we do it, and i credit a lot of that to my willingness to walk away.
It’s very harsh, and I wish I didn’t have to get to that point, but it worked.
“Dread” for any lurkers that want to do some reading.
So is it against my values? Maybe, I’m not sure. But I couldn’t bear to stay in a marriage - with all the associated risks of divorce - without getting more out of it.
Our road was a very ugly one that’s flourished into something we both value more than ever as a result.
Red Pill stuff is all fun and games until you have to do red pill stuff to get what you want. I genuinely wish I didn’t have to do half the stuff I did to get where we are.