Marzouk Out

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Oh cool, this thread turned into that again.

One last time, and I’m out.

  • Stop being so proud - everyone. I have had members purposefully goad me. Kewl, whatever, it’s the internet. Seriously, it’s not that fucking hard to just NOT RESPOND TO SOMEONE. Jesus Christ.

  • Fact, this site is the closest thing to what 4chan use to be.

  • This 4chan bullshit finds its way into the BB forums because no one who actually comes here is that serious, and so the BB section ends up being the place that they go to whenever they’re bored from GAL, to ask every person their shitty program they’ve probably never even tried for a day, let alone a year.

  • It’s frustrating to see it happen on a site like this, when I see competitor websites monitoring what is being said by whom much more carefully, and it makes the overall quality of the forums MUCH better. I know the goal is profit, but the sad thing is most advanced lifters (who had originally been from T-Nat or IRL) thinks T-Nation is a complete joke.

/should have taken the cue from SteelyD a while ago.

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[quote]SSC wrote:
Oh cool, this thread turned into that again.

One last time, and I’m out.

  • Stop being so proud - everyone. I have had members purposefully goad me. Kewl, whatever, it’s the internet. Seriously, it’s not that fucking hard to just NOT RESPOND TO SOMEONE. Jesus Christ.

  • Fact, this site is the closest thing to what 4chan use to be.

  • This 4chan bullshit finds its way into the BB forums because no one who actually comes here is that serious, and so the BB section ends up being the place that they go to whenever they’re bored from GAL, to ask every person their shitty program they’ve probably never even tried for a day, let alone a year.

  • It’s frustrating to see it happen on a site like this, when I see competitor websites monitoring what is being said by whom much more carefully, and it makes the overall quality of the forums MUCH better. I know the goal is profit, but the sad thing is most advanced lifters (who had originally been from T-Nat or IRL) thinks T-Nation is a complete joke.

/should have taken the cue from SteelyD a while ago.[/quote]

I agree.

I do think the BB forum has improved lately though because there are more eyes watching in there.

But yeah, I can see most other forums are a joke now…and sadly, this shit is now in the T-cell when we had that holding without it for a long time…so I guess most of the site is fucked.

I’m out. My mistake for wasting my time on this at all but I did want my point understood.

I think it is now.

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Back to the original topic, if Marzouk ever returns and sees that his farewell thread reached 7 pages, he’ll be in for a big surprise when he discovers that it wasn’t T-Nation en masse wishing him farewell but in actuality, the giant carpet stain that this thread turned into.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Hold up, are the guys like you STILL arguing like this even reading the now SEVERAL posts NOT agreeing with you?
[/quote]

Hold up, are you STILL acting like you aren’t an augmentative dick even reading the now SEVERAL posts NOT agreeing with you?[/quote]

Serious question to you and everyone else…you are a grown fucking man…why do you think you have the right to tell me to change who I am?

If you don’t like me, put me on ignore and go about your business.

You and others are fucking up the forums with this shit…and now, I am not the only one telling you this.

Get over YOURself.[/quote]

Nobody is telling you to change you who you are. They are telling you not to get butt hurt and offended and when others flame you for acting that way.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
22 vs 35

It’s just sad, does he even try?

trollololol[/quote]

Waylander, sorry bud, prof X wins. Your conditioning is off.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I think GAL and SAMA should be removed. That’s just my opinion. Keep the logs and training forums and kill the rest of the dumb shit.

If there were no nonlifting forums this site would have less traffic and be more serious. How would it not? The only things being discussed would be training and diet. If you want pictures of ass you can use google. There are millions of all kind. There are also plenty of other random and political clusterfucks out there too. So why even bother with it here?

There’s a lot wrong with the structure of this site id say though. The TCell and BOI are ones that glare.

Why take the varsity guys in the film room and let the jv bump into each other all practice long?

I don’t see the forums getting better until there are only logs and training related subforums… that should be obvious.

that won’t happen though.

The only forums I have visible are GAL,all other logs,and the bb forum now. Gal is being phased out next.

This is as real as it can get regarding forum bullshit. And that’s coming from a dude who has. Basically lived in the gal forum since joining the site. Id not for this section I would have contributed more early on or left completely.

And yea, you’ll get mad about your precious groups being attacked. But,you cant go against what I said. Think about what the bb forum would look like if those groups were put into a general bb forum. And as of late there are just as many arguments in tcell as anywhere else. Even further the tcell dudes are cuasing the problems everywhere else in the site too.

Its all fucked up.

Like I said though none of these changes will happen. Biotest makes money off the traffic and ego won’t let anyone disband the tcell or boi.

Sooooooooooooo we will continue to have this shit goinzon.

[/quote]

Feeling a little hypocritical, Rock?

Let’s not forget that you/we have choices in how we react to each other. Don’t blame Biotest for the trolls and the arguing that goes on. It seems to me that many of the vetrans and well respected people here start as much shit as any troll does. That’s what happens when you get strong personalities in a room… there’s going to be conflict. But, that’s a GOOD thing, as it should lead to a respectful discussion.

But, respect these days has been lacking and it’s sad.

Also, just because someone frequently posts in SAMA and GAL, only, that doesn’t automatically mean that they don’t take working out seriously.

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I’m not really feeling anything. I said in that post that most of my time spent here has been bullshitting in GaAL and SAMA.

I didnt say people who spend their time in these forums dont train hard. I said the site would be better off without the traffic.If the only lure to T NATION was lifting and nothing else how many posters would stay? What kind of posters would stay?

I see the posters who only show up for the lulz would fall off quick after they realize there were no lulz here. I even said that in the post you quoted. Another point in that post I admitted to is that my own style of post would have been altered if there were only training subs here.

Not blaming Biotest for anything. I think its a great pull for them to have traffic. Its great business.

And, of course disagreement in a good thing. Its how ideas mix to create product. But, is any of the shit in the thread a discussion? if so, of what?

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I think GAL and SAMA should be removed. That’s just my opinion. Keep the logs and training forums and kill the rest of the dumb shit.

If there were no nonlifting forums this site would have less traffic and be more serious. How would it not? The only things being discussed would be training and diet. If you want pictures of ass you can use google. There are millions of all kind. There are also plenty of other random and political clusterfucks out there too. So why even bother with it here?

There’s a lot wrong with the structure of this site id say though. The TCell and BOI are ones that glare.

Why take the varsity guys in the film room and let the jv bump into each other all practice long?

I don’t see the forums getting better until there are only logs and training related subforums… that should be obvious.

that won’t happen though.

The only forums I have visible are GAL,all other logs,and the bb forum now. Gal is being phased out next.

This is as real as it can get regarding forum bullshit. And that’s coming from a dude who has. Basically lived in the gal forum since joining the site. Id not for this section I would have contributed more early on or left completely.

And yea, you’ll get mad about your precious groups being attacked. But,you cant go against what I said. Think about what the bb forum would look like if those groups were put into a general bb forum. And as of late there are just as many arguments in tcell as anywhere else. Even further the tcell dudes are cuasing the problems everywhere else in the site too.

Its all fucked up.

Like I said though none of these changes will happen. Biotest makes money off the traffic and ego won’t let anyone disband the tcell or boi.

Sooooooooooooo we will continue to have this shit goinzon.

[/quote]

I don’t know if I’d say the BOI is necessarily a problem in the way you’re thinking.
Pretty much what we do is post our workouts, comment on workouts, and motivate each-other.
We don’t really hold big discussions that often, so we’re not detracting from other sections of the site (besides maybe training logs, and many of us have those as well).
If it wasn’t for the BOI (and the haven from the bullshit that other forums provide), I don’t know if I would be on this site often at all (and I’m sure some of the others in the BOI feel this way as well).

(yes, I realize I might come across as one of those easily offended people rushing to defend my “group”, but I don’t reallly care, my argument is reasonable)

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People actually consider the get a life forum the main draw? Sure I post in it a lot but it’s mainly because I’m on the site throughout the day reading a new article, checking the live spill, updating my log, or replying to messages. In between those things, I find time to join in on the fun in the gal. Anybody who refers to T-Nation as that site with the awesome off topic sub forum as a way to convince people to come and post here is just dumb…

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[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I think GAL and SAMA should be removed. That’s just my opinion. Keep the logs and training forums and kill the rest of the dumb shit.

If there were no nonlifting forums this site would have less traffic and be more serious. How would it not? The only things being discussed would be training and diet. If you want pictures of ass you can use google. There are millions of all kind. There are also plenty of other random and political clusterfucks out there too. So why even bother with it here?

There’s a lot wrong with the structure of this site id say though. The TCell and BOI are ones that glare.

Why take the varsity guys in the film room and let the jv bump into each other all practice long?

I don’t see the forums getting better until there are only logs and training related subforums… that should be obvious.

that won’t happen though.

The only forums I have visible are GAL,all other logs,and the bb forum now. Gal is being phased out next.

This is as real as it can get regarding forum bullshit. And that’s coming from a dude who has. Basically lived in the gal forum since joining the site. Id not for this section I would have contributed more early on or left completely.

And yea, you’ll get mad about your precious groups being attacked. But,you cant go against what I said. Think about what the bb forum would look like if those groups were put into a general bb forum. And as of late there are just as many arguments in tcell as anywhere else. Even further the tcell dudes are cuasing the problems everywhere else in the site too.

Its all fucked up.

Like I said though none of these changes will happen. Biotest makes money off the traffic and ego won’t let anyone disband the tcell or boi.

Sooooooooooooo we will continue to have this shit goinzon.

[/quote]

I don’t know if I’d say the BOI is necessarily a problem in the way you’re thinking.
Pretty much what we do is post our workouts, comment on workouts, and motivate each-other.
We don’t really hold big discussions that often, so we’re not detracting from other sections of the site (besides maybe training logs, and many of us have those as well).
If it wasn’t for the BOI (and the haven from the bullshit that other forums provide), I don’t know if I would be on this site often at all (and I’m sure some of the others in the BOI feel this way as well).

(yes, I realize I might come across as one of those easily offended people rushing to defend my “group”, but I don’t reallly care, my argument is reasonable)

[/quote]

what if all that motivation was in a general bb forum? Thats what I’m getting at. All that energy you guys pour into each other would free flow all over the bb forum. How would it not? lol

When the boi was IN the bb forum it was immensely better. Any seperation when we all have the same goal is a bad idea.

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This thread delivered.

How can people complain about trolling in the GAL section? lol I mean come on, get over it. That’s what it’s for.

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I’m trolling right now. lol

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If they get rid of sama and gal all of the arguing will spew over to the important forums like bodybuilding and nutrition and training…etc.

I love this website. this website has helped me out way beyond building my body.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
22 vs 35

It’s just sad, does he even try?

trollololol[/quote]

Waylander, sorry bud, prof X wins. Your conditioning is off.[/quote]

hahahahaha, nice.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I’m trolling right now. lol[/quote]

No you’re not.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I think GAL and SAMA should be removed. That’s just my opinion. Keep the logs and training forums and kill the rest of the dumb shit.

If there were no nonlifting forums this site would have less traffic and be more serious. How would it not? The only things being discussed would be training and diet. If you want pictures of ass you can use google. There are millions of all kind. There are also plenty of other random and political clusterfucks out there too. So why even bother with it here?

There’s a lot wrong with the structure of this site id say though. The TCell and BOI are ones that glare.

Why take the varsity guys in the film room and let the jv bump into each other all practice long?

I don’t see the forums getting better until there are only logs and training related subforums… that should be obvious.

that won’t happen though.

The only forums I have visible are GAL,all other logs,and the bb forum now. Gal is being phased out next.

This is as real as it can get regarding forum bullshit. And that’s coming from a dude who has. Basically lived in the gal forum since joining the site. Id not for this section I would have contributed more early on or left completely.

And yea, you’ll get mad about your precious groups being attacked. But,you cant go against what I said. Think about what the bb forum would look like if those groups were put into a general bb forum. And as of late there are just as many arguments in tcell as anywhere else. Even further the tcell dudes are cuasing the problems everywhere else in the site too.

Its all fucked up.

Like I said though none of these changes will happen. Biotest makes money off the traffic and ego won’t let anyone disband the tcell or boi.

Sooooooooooooo we will continue to have this shit goinzon.

[/quote]

I don’t know if I’d say the BOI is necessarily a problem in the way you’re thinking.
Pretty much what we do is post our workouts, comment on workouts, and motivate each-other.
We don’t really hold big discussions that often, so we’re not detracting from other sections of the site (besides maybe training logs, and many of us have those as well).
If it wasn’t for the BOI (and the haven from the bullshit that other forums provide), I don’t know if I would be on this site often at all (and I’m sure some of the others in the BOI feel this way as well).

(yes, I realize I might come across as one of those easily offended people rushing to defend my “group”, but I don’t reallly care, my argument is reasonable)

[/quote]

what if all that motivation was in a general bb forum? Thats what I’m getting at. All that energy you guys pour into each other would free flow all over the bb forum. How would it not? lol

When the boi was IN the bb forum it was immensely better. Any seperation when we all have the same goal is a bad idea. [/quote]

It might be able to survive in the BB forum, but then again, it might not. When you have guys like HiltonShawn(sp?) telling Stu, Ebomb, and H4m that they’re wrong in the BB forum, I cringe at the thought of someone allowing them access to the BOI thread.

If the BOI and Tcell were nonexistant, one of two things (or a blend of the two) would happen.

  1. The quality of the BB forum increases, everyone is happy
  2. People already stressed about the shit that goes on leave, quality goes down even more.

Many of the quality members of each group still post in the BB forum, so the risk doesn’t seem worth it, IMO.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

And then tell me how Bonez can have the exact same tone in his posts and NO ONE ever makes a thread about it.

.[/quote]

Well that’s just cus Im cooler and funnier than you. It’s a popularity contest you know.

And I also think it’s ridiculous how much people complain about you sounding like a total dick. Yea youre a dick, but big deal. People need to get graduate 4th grade and over it.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I’m trolling right now. lol[/quote]

No you’re not.[/quote]

I am. You think I care either way? My training is already tight. The arguments here are hilarious. I joined. Then you joined and now lulz.

It ain’t my website people can post whatever the hell they want. My bills don’t depend on what someone posts here unless they pm me about a contract.

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[quote]RSGZ wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I honestly think the problem is that most on this site now only come here to bullshit in the GAL and sex forums.
[/quote]

I do so purely because of all the crap that goes on in the BB forum.

I got tired of weeding through the BS, so I stick to the GAL and Nutrition forums.[/quote]

x2

I vaguely weed through the BB forum, peruse the nutrition section, and read articles. But then again, I’ve always done that, as I don’t feel the posting in the sections I read is warranted. I don’t think I know that much, so I don’t think I have any place to be handing out advice.

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[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I think GAL and SAMA should be removed. That’s just my opinion. Keep the logs and training forums and kill the rest of the dumb shit.

If there were no nonlifting forums this site would have less traffic and be more serious. How would it not? The only things being discussed would be training and diet. If you want pictures of ass you can use google. There are millions of all kind. There are also plenty of other random and political clusterfucks out there too. So why even bother with it here?

There’s a lot wrong with the structure of this site id say though. The TCell and BOI are ones that glare.

Why take the varsity guys in the film room and let the jv bump into each other all practice long?

I don’t see the forums getting better until there are only logs and training related subforums… that should be obvious.

that won’t happen though.

The only forums I have visible are GAL,all other logs,and the bb forum now. Gal is being phased out next.

This is as real as it can get regarding forum bullshit. And that’s coming from a dude who has. Basically lived in the gal forum since joining the site. Id not for this section I would have contributed more early on or left completely.

And yea, you’ll get mad about your precious groups being attacked. But,you cant go against what I said. Think about what the bb forum would look like if those groups were put into a general bb forum. And as of late there are just as many arguments in tcell as anywhere else. Even further the tcell dudes are cuasing the problems everywhere else in the site too.

Its all fucked up.

Like I said though none of these changes will happen. Biotest makes money off the traffic and ego won’t let anyone disband the tcell or boi.

Sooooooooooooo we will continue to have this shit goinzon.

[/quote]

I don’t know if I’d say the BOI is necessarily a problem in the way you’re thinking.
Pretty much what we do is post our workouts, comment on workouts, and motivate each-other.
We don’t really hold big discussions that often, so we’re not detracting from other sections of the site (besides maybe training logs, and many of us have those as well).
If it wasn’t for the BOI (and the haven from the bullshit that other forums provide), I don’t know if I would be on this site often at all (and I’m sure some of the others in the BOI feel this way as well).

(yes, I realize I might come across as one of those easily offended people rushing to defend my “group”, but I don’t reallly care, my argument is reasonable)

[/quote]

what if all that motivation was in a general bb forum? Thats what I’m getting at. All that energy you guys pour into each other would free flow all over the bb forum. How would it not? lol

When the boi was IN the bb forum it was immensely better. Any seperation when we all have the same goal is a bad idea. [/quote]

It might be able to survive in the BB forum, but then again, it might not. When you have guys like HiltonShawn(sp?) telling Stu, Ebomb, and H4m that they’re wrong in the BB forum, I cringe at the thought of someone allowing them access to the BOI thread.

If the BOI and Tcell were nonexistant, one of two things (or a blend of the two) would happen.

  1. The quality of the BB forum increases, everyone is happy
  2. People already stressed about the shit that goes on leave, quality goes down even more.

Many of the quality members of each group still post in the BB forum,
so the risk doesn’t seem worth it, IMO.[/quote]

Did that happen in the old BOI edutions? I’m curious because I don’t know.