That’s another factor for sure.
This has been a great discussion, started what, two weeks ago? Definitely got me some lightbulb moments.
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No, not at all. I was just trying to illustrate a point of how diffuse a term it is when one focuses on numbers alone. I think Meadows makes for the best case study as it even says high volume in his program but then you look at volume per muscle and see that it’s maybe… not.
Again, I get that strength is top monkey in this log though so I won’t hammer on a moot issue any further.
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Oh, I’m interested in all facets of training with weights; I just know very little about it outside a small, specialised area.
One thing that did occur to me is that there are maybe a couple of kinds of size when it comes to training: there’s bigger for stronger, and bigger for better looking. Apart from the diet aspect which is obviously different, I think there’s a difference in that when you’re trying to get bigger to get stronger it’s a much simpler process. You throw some volume at the parts of your body you want to grow, and you do it in a way that minimises the systemic fatigue it generates because you want to save that for the volume dedicated to practicing the competition lifts. You get bigger, enough to get the effect you want on your strength.
I think when you’re training to get bigger looking better is gets a lot more involved.
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As said I did a technique workshop this summer hosted by a danish PL holding some european records has done worlds PL, euro and nationals.
He trained with the norwegian squat for many years had a full time job and wasn’t burning out.
It’s a matter of managing load and intensity at the right way.
He talked about it during the workshop saying that one system isn’t better than the other. He said the most distinct difference was that the european lifters had a technically better lift, because of the many many reps every week, perfecting technique every time.
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Yeah, as a powerlifter you don’t really want a 100% optimal hypertrophy program because you still need to at least maintain a decent level of strength plus technique on the comp lifts, or something close at the very least. If me or you went and trained like a bodybuilder for 6 months then guaranteed we would come back weaker even if we gained a whole lot of muscle. And while gaining fat has limited advantages at best, eating to lose fat will get you weaker for sure.
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Just so we don’t forget.
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Woke at 267.6 lbs, looking much the same.
@The_Myth damn but my head is disproportionately large compared to the rest of me…
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Lol. Just didn’t want anyone to forget that you do know how to get lean. I love following the journey and the convos you have with others.
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Thanks man. Believe me, at some point I will again, and that time I’ll have something to show for it too. It just isn’t worth it right now for me. Most likely it’ll be something I do in my 40s.
How long ago was that? You looked good there, I guarantee you already have a LOT to show with the weights you’re lifting. Will be awesome when you lean out again.
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I think that was mid 2017? Something around that
Chase the dream my brother.
Cool!
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Forgot to log yesterday’s training (in 107 or so degrees, fun)
Prisoner squats
100 - 4x25
Walking lunges
4x50 feet
Lying leg raises
50 - 2x25
26 minutes
Then today an extra workout
Two rounds 25 each of
Pull aparts
Reverse hyper
Reduced what I did because I basically did what I left out yesterday.
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I’ve noticed a good handful of users here are progressing well with higher frequency.
In the past, I don’t think I was programming correctly using higher frequency for at least squat and bench.
I’d get nearly to a PR, and then stagnate.
I’ve switch to a ridiculous amount of volume since It’s something I hadn’t really endured for a prolonged period of time. I know some folks might now like the thought of experimenting, but that’s always my go-to.
Woke looking much the same as usual. Scale said ‘Lo’ and then 272.7 lbs, but I’ll take that with a grain of salt. Need to remember to get new batteries.
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Mine says low then 290, I need a new scale
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We joked about SHW one day but u closer than I remember big fella
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Twenty kilos is a pretty long way…
Todays training
30 seconds each side of
Couch stretch
Pigeon stretch
Supine twist
Hurdler stretch
10 bracing hip thrusts
Squat
Worked up to 2x1x534 lbs, Phantoms at seven revolutions
They moved well, very comfortable with that as an opener which is what it is.
Paused squat, three seconds in the hole
2x2x385 lbs
An hour and 20 minutes.
Rolling and pre stretching the wraps was the hardest part.
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Couple of Big Macs will do ya