Marine in College

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
grew7 wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
orion wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
I hope no one thought my comment was anti-miltary.

It doesn’t matter if he was a marine, or a banker. I just don’t like it when people use religion as a backing to do others harm.

It does make a difference if he is a marine or a banker.

First, a banker did not swear to defend the constitution.

Second, he was never trained to kill.

Third, and most of all, I would not want someone with a loaded weapon close to me in a combat situation when the same someone cannot keep a cool and clear head in a fucking classroom when some moron hurts his precious little ego.

It was all pretend. Give me a freakin’ break.

The pretend character is still an idiot.

We get it. You don’t like Bush and you are against the war. Loud and clear.
It was a stupid story. But it hurt nobody and anybody with a little sense of self would realize the intent was innocent enough.

Not liking what the pretend character did has NOTHING to do with liking bush or the war.

I don’t like bush. But he is the president, therefore, I will respect the office of the Presidency, even if I don’t respect the man. I don’t expect that you liked clinton. But I hope that you at least respected the office of the presidency.

And please don’t call me a liberal or a conservative. There are great liberal politicians, and there are great conservative politicians. I would re-elect bill clinton in a heartbeat if he could serve a third term. However, in a race between Hillary and McCain, McCain would get my vote. In the kansas state elections this year, we have a great incumbent democrat governer. She will be getting my vote. We also have a great incumbent republican attorney general. He will be gettting my vote.

I don’t agree with the war in Iraq. However, I support the troops. They don’t have a choice, they do as they are ordered. So I have nothing at all against the soldiers, just against the policy makers that sent them to iraq.[/quote]

Dude,
My comment had absolutely nothing to do with you or your post. I don’t care how you vote.

And by the way–I voted for Clinton-twice. Voted for Bush-twice. You’re better off talking about your dry spells than politics.

And by the way again–You don’t show much of your reported respect for our current Commander in Chief by not capitalizing his name. I even capitalized ‘Dude.’

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“The only people that actively hate the military are anti military fascist-type liberals and those that couldn’t hack it. Which one are you?”

I’m probably the former although I don’t have an active hate, just a problem with the concept of war. This is my problem.

“I don’t agree with the war in Iraq. However, I support the troops. They don’t have a choice, they do as they are ordered. So I have nothing at all against the soldiers, just against the policy makers that sent them to iraq.”

I don’t trust our leaders. To join the military is to sign a contract in which you sign over your will to choose who to kill. A serious moral conflict may cause someone to betray their oath, but it is not a good idea to put yourself in this situation. It is sad that the national guard went from being the “organized militia” to just another branch of the military. Maybe I’ll have to rally the unorganized militia. It is constitutional I suppose.

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[quote]Taquito wrote:
“The only people that actively hate the military are anti military fascist-type liberals and those that couldn’t hack it. Which one are you?”

I’m probably the former although I don’t have an active hate, just a problem with the concept of war. This is my problem.

“I don’t agree with the war in Iraq. However, I support the troops. They don’t have a choice, they do as they are ordered. So I have nothing at all against the soldiers, just against the policy makers that sent them to iraq.”

I don’t trust our leaders. To join the military is to sign a contract in which you sign over your will to choose who to kill. A serious moral conflict may cause someone to betray their oath, but it is not a good idea to put yourself in this situation. It is sad that the national guard went from being the “organized militia” to just another branch of the military. Maybe I’ll have to rally the unorganized militia. It is constitutional I suppose.

[/quote]

Well, soldiers sign up to uphold the constitution. I think seeing as how I am not one. And the constitution mandates for a president and policy makers. So they are following the document they swore to uphold.

Same with policemen, incidentally.

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OOO-RAH !!!

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Wow. This thread went to shit real fast, huh?

A. On the origional topic: I think the Marine punching out the professor is fucking hilarious. Sue me.

B. Barney: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The troops are not interested in your PC fashion statement: “I don’t support the war but I support the troops” (paraphrased). Either you are all in or you are all out. Pick one. I won’t get mad. You won’t hurt my feelings, but it feels like you are patronizing the troops when you say you support us but not WHAT WE ARE ACTIVLY DOING. Like what is it you support then? See what I mean?

C. I think someone else irritated me but I forgot what the statement was so fuck it.

Former Jarhead OUT.

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Oh yeah, it was you Barney.

C. We DO have a choice. It’s kind of expected when you sign on the dotted line…I mean, HISTORICALY militaries do engage in combat…So yeah, we don’t exactly need your sympathy.

That’s my story and I’m stickin to it.

DD

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Great story… and too many people think that soldiers are forced into war; yet, the majority of them sign up for this reason voluntarily. Nobody forced your son to go anywhere. If they didn’t want to go war and simply joined the military to jerk off, than their bad. Blame shouldn’t be placed upon anyone.

As far as the the whole not supporting our country in the war but supporting the people in it,…that’s like saying you hate your mom but you appreciate everything she has done for you.

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[quote]devilBASTARDdog wrote:
Wow. This thread went to shit real fast, huh?

A. On the origional topic: I think the Marine punching out the professor is fucking hilarious. Sue me.

B. Barney: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The troops are not interested in your PC fashion statement: “I don’t support the war but I support the troops” (paraphrased). Either you are all in or you are all out. Pick one. I won’t get mad. You won’t hurt my feelings, but it feels like you are patronizing the troops when you say you support us but not WHAT WE ARE ACTIVLY DOING. Like what is it you support then? See what I mean?

C. I think someone else irritated me but I forgot what the statement was so fuck it.

Former Jarhead OUT.
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This thread has been hijacked…however,

I started a thread a long time ago about supporting the troops. My thought is that everyone says they support the troops, but they don’t support the war, the President, the mission, blah, blah, blah. That is impossible. For these reasons:

  1. The military is ALL VOLUNTEER. How can you support someone who volunteers to do something you despise?

  2. We understand up front that the prospect of combat is likely.

  3. We are not cattle who “don’t have a choice”.

  4. Your fake support is often patronizing, offensive, and demoralizing to the troops.

  5. The U.S. military is led by the best people this country has to offer. It has nothing to do with college degrees, or GPA’s or political affiliation. It has to do with dedication, honor, mission accomplishment, patriotism and sincere concern for the well-being the troops.

If you are not military or have never served honorably, you have no idea what I am talking about. I would rather some of you guys just come right out and say you don’t like the military instead of saying stupid things like “I support the troops, but hate the mission”.

Semper Fi
Only 6 years to retirement

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[quote]BH6 wrote:
“God has a hard-on for Marines, because we kill everything we see. Marines keep heaven full of fresh souls.”

“God was here before the Marine Corps. So, you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the Corps.”

Religious commentary by Gunnery Sergeant Hartman. [/quote]

I love that.

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[quote]orion wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
I hope no one thought my comment was anti-miltary.

It doesn’t matter if he was a marine, or a banker. I just don’t like it when people use religion as a backing to do others harm.

It does make a difference if he is a marine or a banker.

First, a banker did not swear to defend the constitution.[/quote]

I did.

[quote]Second, he was never trained to kill.
[/quote]

I was

well said.

Btw, I took the crack about Marines and college as a joke, not as an anti-military quip. To me, it was more of an inter-military jab. I thought it was funny. I was Army and I work with an ex-Marine copter pilot. We make jokes about each other’s branch from time to time.

I’ve also found that the most arrogant, self-important servicemen I have come across have mostly been Marines. They rank right up there with Navy fighter pilots. I still respect them, and all servicemembers for the jobs they do, I just appreciate a little humility.

DB

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[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
FYI, the corps requires the second highest ASVAB to get in, behind the air force.

Mike[/quote]

FYI you’re wrong.

Coast Guard - 40 prior to 2003, 36 after 2003
AF - 36, 21 w/waiver
Navy - 31 prior to 2003, 35 after 2003
Marine Corp - 32, 25 w/waiver
Army - 31, 26 w/waiver

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Did this story remind anyone else of the bit from the Simpsons when they went to Australia?

They’re at the American Embassy, a guy in uniform is guarding the gate.

Homer asks him if he’s “one of those guys that has to stand there and not move a muscle no matter what you do?”

“No, sir,” the guard states. “United States Marine Corps.”

Homer starts leaping back-and-forth across the property line.

“Hey boy,” he says, “Look! I’m in America…now Australia… America…Australia…”

The guard hauls of and socks him in the jaw.

“What’d you do that for?”

“We don’t tolerate that kind of nonsense in America.”

Always made me giggle.

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[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
orion wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
I hope no one thought my comment was anti-miltary.

It doesn’t matter if he was a marine, or a banker. I just don’t like it when people use religion as a backing to do others harm.

It does make a difference if he is a marine or a banker.

First, a banker did not swear to defend the constitution.

I did.

Second, he was never trained to kill.

I was

Third, and most of all, I would not want someone with a loaded weapon close to me in a combat situation when the same someone cannot keep a cool and clear head in a fucking classroom when some moron hurts his precious little ego.

well said.

Btw, I took the crack about Marines and college as a joke, not as an anti-military quip. To me, it was more of an inter-military jab. I thought it was funny. I was Army and I work with an ex-Marine copter pilot. We make jokes about each other’s branch from time to time.

I’ve also found that the most arrogant, self-important servicemen I have come across have mostly been Marines. They rank right up there with Navy fighter pilots. I still respect them, and all servicemembers for the jobs they do, I just appreciate a little humility.

DB[/quote]

I thought HK’s first comment was just a joke, then he posted another comment, and the two together gave the the distinct feeling that he had an axe to grind. HK hasn’t posted since. If it was a joke then I apologize for some of my previous comments. I’m all about inter-service jokes.

On another note, humility is something you won’t find a lot of in the Marines. Respect, yes. Humility, no. We breed supreme confidence. We take pride in our heritage. Same thing with fighter pilots, they have to be supremely confident type-A personalities. It’s an aggressive, dangerous job. You don’t want some mellowed-out, “hey, man whatever” type flying combat missions over Baghdad. Same with Marines. We’re a little hyper-active because the job requires it. Every Marine is a rifleman, and we mean that.

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[quote]Backlash79 wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
FYI, the corps requires the second highest ASVAB to get in, behind the air force.

Mike

FYI you’re wrong.

Coast Guard - 40 prior to 2003, 36 after 2003
AF - 36, 21 w/waiver
Navy - 31 prior to 2003, 35 after 2003
Marine Corp - 32, 25 w/waiver
Army - 31, 26 w/waiver
[/quote]

Told ya. It’s sad, that you marines are so stupid you don’t even remember your ASVAB scores.

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[quote]Hannibal King wrote:
Backlash79 wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
FYI, the corps requires the second highest ASVAB to get in, behind the air force.

Mike

FYI you’re wrong.

Coast Guard - 40 prior to 2003, 36 after 2003
AF - 36, 21 w/waiver
Navy - 31 prior to 2003, 35 after 2003
Marine Corp - 32, 25 w/waiver
Army - 31, 26 w/waiver

Told ya. It’s sad, that you marines are so stupid you don’t even remember your ASVAB scores.
[/quote]

Your ASVAB score won’t help you stick a knife into the enemy. Marines breed fighters, the other services breed tea-drinking, PC “intellectuals”.

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[quote]Backlash79 wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
FYI, the corps requires the second highest ASVAB to get in, behind the air force.

Mike

FYI you’re wrong.

Coast Guard - 40 prior to 2003, 36 after 2003
AF - 36, 21 w/waiver
Navy - 31 prior to 2003, 35 after 2003
Marine Corp - 32, 25 w/waiver
Army - 31, 26 w/waiver
[/quote]

Man, I wish I never took the ASVAB to get out of class in high school, I got hounded by recruiters for 6 months after that.

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
orion wrote:

I thought HK’s first comment was just a joke, then he posted another comment, and the two together gave the the distinct feeling that he had an axe to grind. HK hasn’t posted since. If it was a joke then I apologize for some of my previous comments. I’m all about inter-service jokes.

On another note, humility is something you won’t find a lot of in the Marines. Respect, yes. Humility, no. We breed supreme confidence. We take pride in our heritage. Same thing with fighter pilots, they have to be supremely confident type-A personalities. It’s an aggressive, dangerous job. You don’t want some mellowed-out, “hey, man whatever” type flying combat missions over Baghdad. Same with Marines. We’re a little hyper-active because the job requires it. Every Marine is a rifleman, and we mean that.
[/quote]

Fair point on the cockiness. I’ve dealt with many elite types (Airborne/Air Assault, Rangers, Delta Force) that didn’t carry such arrogance, but I can live with it.

As for HK, it is looking like he’s a hater. I didn’t read any of HK’s other posts, except his latest, and now I would tend to agree with you.

DB

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[quote]Hannibal King wrote:
Backlash79 wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
FYI, the corps requires the second highest ASVAB to get in, behind the air force.

Mike

FYI you’re wrong.

Coast Guard - 40 prior to 2003, 36 after 2003
AF - 36, 21 w/waiver
Navy - 31 prior to 2003, 35 after 2003
Marine Corp - 32, 25 w/waiver
Army - 31, 26 w/waiver

Told ya. It’s sad, that you marines are so stupid you don’t even remember your ASVAB scores.
[/quote]

hahaha. Or you could have said: “You Marines are so stupid even when you get high scores you join the infantry.” The Marines attract a strange breed. That’s why so many of you REALLY don’t understand why we don’t bitch about the war etc.

DD

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WTF? Why are you all talking about the marine and not the atheist prof?

If I’m an atheistic prof and I pull that totally pointless and invalid request of “proof” and some big-ass dude steps up to me, I’m gonna be thinking that the guy’s probably try to “prove” something.

Hell, way before any person even has a chance to step up, any atheist prof worth their salt (I’m an agnostic, so I’m only guessing here…) knows that, because there is no God except in the minds of men and women, there can only be one conclusion: God “works” through the actions of men and women (a priori or post hoc).

As such, and from having some knowledge of the students in class (is it tough spotting possible marines?), it wouldn’t have been difficult to deduce that some MMA training would be needed as an effective safeguard against the “God works in mysterious ways” crowd. That, or a loaded gun.

Even simpler, the prof could have done away with such an unneccessarily long time-window (why does God need 15 minutes and why would you want to piss off the students forking out hundreds of dollars a head to sit and listen to your jabber, anyways?) and just removed himself seconds after saying it, thus only giving God, and not His minions, the chance to strike him down.

There are so many flaws in this prof’s thinking that he deserved to get his block knocked off and much worse.

As for the marine, no one can blame him for the mess created while diffusing the stand-off. If it weren’t for his timely action, the kid with the sawed-off shot-gun under his trenchcoat or the goth girl on the other side of the room with the poisoned hair-pin would have gotten to the prof first: as agents of some D+D dragon god and Cthulu, they respectively gave their gods the chance to answer the prof first… but getting worried that they would be held responsible for not striking down the heretic, they set out much like the Marine did. The marine, of course, would sit closer to the front of the class than those two clowns, so it only makes sense that he’d reach the prof first.

So, instead, seeing that the prof had been dispatched just before they could get to the front of the classroom, both awkwardly turned around to go back to their seats, nervously glancing to see if anyone had noticed them (and they hadn’t because of the spectacle unfolding between the marine and the prof), and suddenly noticed each other…

… and they’ve been keeping me up until the ungodliest of hours ever since, what with all the headboard-repeatedly-slamming-into-the-wall
-in-the-apartment-above-mine action.

The End.