Man Says He'll Kill Son's Murderer

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[quote]Sturat wrote:
Personally I don’t undertstand why people insist on talking about how they’d torture this guy. He’s not human, he’s like a dog that won’t stop biting. He absolutely needs to be put down, you’ll get no argument from me on that but torturing him doesn’t make anything right. All it does is debase whoever does it to the same level as this guy.

If a dog bites it gets put down, it doesn’t get tortured to “make up” for what it did to it’s victims.

An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth, he took a life he should lose his.

But the lord was pretty clear on the second half of that that ours is not to extract vengance, that’s his.[/quote]

Well for those of us who fail to see his influence in the world, we’ll take that into our own hands.

Not saying that I would torture him myself. Just sayin’ someone should- and someone on this planet.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Sturat wrote:
Personally I don’t undertstand why people insist on talking about how they’d torture this guy. He’s not human, he’s like a dog that won’t stop biting. He absolutely needs to be put down, you’ll get no argument from me on that but torturing him doesn’t make anything right. All it does is debase whoever does it to the same level as this guy.

If a dog bites it gets put down, it doesn’t get tortured to “make up” for what it did to it’s victims.

An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth, he took a life he should lose his.

But the lord was pretty clear on the second half of that that ours is not to extract vengance, that’s his.[/quote]

Well for those of us who fail to see his influence in the world, we’ll take that into our own hands.

Not saying that I would torture him myself. Just sayin’ someone should- and someone on this planet. [/quote]

Why? What is gained by torturing him? Except that someone else gets to fulfill their fantasies but try to claim it’s justice?

“No no, when I torture and kill people it’s for a good reason, when they do it it’s sick”

Personally I’m not sure I believe in God despite my last post but if there’s nothing after this life than the only people affected by torturing him are the people left behind and not in a positive fashion. We’re not going to be better people because we torture someone, any more than he is because he did.

The killing is strictly self-defense. He’s not going to stop killing so we need to stop him.

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[quote]Sturat wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Sturat wrote:
Personally I don’t undertstand why people insist on talking about how they’d torture this guy. He’s not human, he’s like a dog that won’t stop biting. He absolutely needs to be put down, you’ll get no argument from me on that but torturing him doesn’t make anything right. All it does is debase whoever does it to the same level as this guy.

If a dog bites it gets put down, it doesn’t get tortured to “make up” for what it did to it’s victims.

An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth, he took a life he should lose his.

But the lord was pretty clear on the second half of that that ours is not to extract vengance, that’s his.[/quote]

Well for those of us who fail to see his influence in the world, we’ll take that into our own hands.

Not saying that I would torture him myself. Just sayin’ someone should- and someone on this planet. [/quote]

Why? What is gained by torturing him? Except that someone else gets to fulfill their fantasies but try to claim it’s justice?

“No no, when I torture and kill people it’s for a good reason, when they do it it’s sick”

Personally I’m not sure I believe in God despite my last post but if there’s nothing after this life than the only people affected by torturing him are the people left behind and not in a positive fashion. We’re not going to be better people because we torture someone, any more than he is because he did.

The killing is strictly self-defense. He’s not going to stop killing so we need to stop him.[/quote]

Think whatever you like. I don’t give a fuck. He killed a child and kept its bones in his drawer. No punishment is too severe.

Draw and quarter him for all I care. Stick his head on a pike. You be the better person. I’d rather get even, and make him hurt.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Sturat wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Sturat wrote:
Personally I don’t undertstand why people insist on talking about how they’d torture this guy. He’s not human, he’s like a dog that won’t stop biting. He absolutely needs to be put down, you’ll get no argument from me on that but torturing him doesn’t make anything right. All it does is debase whoever does it to the same level as this guy.

If a dog bites it gets put down, it doesn’t get tortured to “make up” for what it did to it’s victims.

An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth, he took a life he should lose his.

But the lord was pretty clear on the second half of that that ours is not to extract vengance, that’s his.[/quote]

Well for those of us who fail to see his influence in the world, we’ll take that into our own hands.

Not saying that I would torture him myself. Just sayin’ someone should- and someone on this planet. [/quote]

Why? What is gained by torturing him? Except that someone else gets to fulfill their fantasies but try to claim it’s justice?

“No no, when I torture and kill people it’s for a good reason, when they do it it’s sick”

Personally I’m not sure I believe in God despite my last post but if there’s nothing after this life than the only people affected by torturing him are the people left behind and not in a positive fashion. We’re not going to be better people because we torture someone, any more than he is because he did.

The killing is strictly self-defense. He’s not going to stop killing so we need to stop him.[/quote]

Think whatever you like. I don’t give a fuck. He killed a child and kept its bones in his drawer. No punishment is too severe.

Draw and quarter him for all I care. Stick his head on a pike. You be the better person. I’d rather get even, and make him hurt.[/quote]

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In most cases, i’d say “don’t lower yourself to his level… be the better person”…

…Until he killed my child.

While i’ve never killed or tortured anyone in my life, I’m almost POSITIVE that i’d be able to do both with little regret.

He’s a waste of organs.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Sturat wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Sturat wrote:
Personally I don’t undertstand why people insist on talking about how they’d torture this guy. He’s not human, he’s like a dog that won’t stop biting. He absolutely needs to be put down, you’ll get no argument from me on that but torturing him doesn’t make anything right. All it does is debase whoever does it to the same level as this guy.

If a dog bites it gets put down, it doesn’t get tortured to “make up” for what it did to it’s victims.

An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth, he took a life he should lose his.

But the lord was pretty clear on the second half of that that ours is not to extract vengance, that’s his.[/quote]

Well for those of us who fail to see his influence in the world, we’ll take that into our own hands.

Not saying that I would torture him myself. Just sayin’ someone should- and someone on this planet. [/quote]

Why? What is gained by torturing him? Except that someone else gets to fulfill their fantasies but try to claim it’s justice?

“No no, when I torture and kill people it’s for a good reason, when they do it it’s sick”

Personally I’m not sure I believe in God despite my last post but if there’s nothing after this life than the only people affected by torturing him are the people left behind and not in a positive fashion. We’re not going to be better people because we torture someone, any more than he is because he did.

The killing is strictly self-defense. He’s not going to stop killing so we need to stop him.[/quote]

Think whatever you like. I don’t give a fuck. He killed a child and kept its bones in his drawer. No punishment is too severe.

Draw and quarter him for all I care. Stick his head on a pike. You be the better person. I’d rather get even, and make him hurt.[/quote]

you’re not getting even, even is dead. You’re getting off.

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[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:
Reminds me of that story where a guys son was molested. Dad camped out at the airport and shot the guy dead right in front police and cameras and everything. He was acquitted of all charges by a jury.

I hope he does it, and I hope the same thing happens.[/quote]

Link? This seems implausible.[/quote]

Implausible? Situations far more implausible have happened.

I remember this story, too. I’ll find a link.[/quote]

I’m hoping you can find a link, that would definitely brighten my mood after reading the shit I just read.[/quote]

Here, you can watch the mother fucker get shot in the head:

And Dad got 5 years probation, not fully acquitted, I was wrong about that[/quote]

Killing a man and only getting 5 years probation? I don’t care what that guy did, you shouldn’t be allowed to take the law into your own hands and choose who lives or dies.

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Also as a karate instructor you’d think he wouldn’t need a gun to kill a man

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Quietly wait for his release ( I would be quite happy he was coming home to me ) and wait for him to settle into a residence. I’d dig the grave deep in the woods. And then plot his abduction with the precision of a Navy Seal team op. And then it’s him and me, in the woods, with time on our hands. Lots of time. Lots of torture. Water boarding would seem like a day in the sun at the local water park. I wouldn’t cut fingers. I’d cut pieces of fingers. He would die by 10,000 cuts, bruises and blows, all exacerbated by whatever chemical that would increase the pain. I would keep him alive for as long as possible. As long as possible. Him and me…in the woods.

That’s assuming I let him make it out of prison in the first place.

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[quote]Sturat wrote:

you’re not getting even, even is dead. You’re getting off.[/quote]

Read closely: I DON’T GIVE A FUCK.

I would make him hurt. Call it what you want. He’d pay.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:
Reminds me of that story where a guys son was molested. Dad camped out at the airport and shot the guy dead right in front police and cameras and everything. He was acquitted of all charges by a jury.

I hope he does it, and I hope the same thing happens.[/quote]

Link? This seems implausible.[/quote]

Implausible? Situations far more implausible have happened.

I remember this story, too. I’ll find a link.[/quote]

I’m hoping you can find a link, that would definitely brighten my mood after reading the shit I just read.[/quote]

Here, you can watch the mother fucker get shot in the head:

And Dad got 5 years probation, not fully acquitted, I was wrong about that[/quote]

Killing a man and only getting 5 years probation? I don’t care what that guy did, you shouldn’t be allowed to take the law into your own hands and choose who lives or dies.[/quote]

Lol silly Canadian. (just kidding) (kinda)

I would do the same or worse. A bullet is too fast for a rapist (especially if they raped my kid).

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Some people just need to be removed from society and put down.

Torture? I don’t know what I would do. Someone asked "what separates you from him if you re-payed it? " The answer is obvious: Justice

They had better not let the guy out though. I don’t care if he has been good. That psychiatric evaluation had better put him away forever. These fuckers don’t get better. There is no “healing”

As far as the dad who shot his son’s molester… if you were on the jury, would you find him guilty? I watched that tape and heard what that molester did. I’m 100% convinced of the father’s innocence.

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Whenever I read something like this I really really wish there was an actual Star Chamber, not just a cool movie.

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If you haven’t watched law abiding citizen watch it ASAP. It’s about a father whose wife and daughter get murdered by two robbers and the story of a fathers revenge on EVERYONE. Totally what I personally would like to do it someone did that to my child. In actuality I’d likely just put a .45 230g JHP in his face.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
Also as a karate instructor you’d think he wouldn’t need a gun to kill a man[/quote]

A couple of things:

-The karate instructor was the molester.

-Karate won’t turn you into a death machine. Fights IRL don’t work like that.

-5 years probation is an appropriate sentence, considering how light everyone else gets off.
There’s a thread about this guy who murdered a woman to cover up another alleged killing of his.
He got 2 years and some change because of “temporary insanity”. There are several other cases of child rapists and murderers getting off with 3 years of therapy or less.

So the dad went to the airport with a gun (Class B misdemeanor[at least pre-9/11]) and had a “temporary lapse of judgment” which led to the slaying. Cooperate, plea it down to manslaughter and voila! you got yourself a nice deal!

Good to see one of the “good guys” reaping the benefits of this system.

This actually reminds me of this Russian prison documentary, where some convicts complained that they got 10+ years for drug charges while one guy got 8 for dropping 2 bodies, another murderer getting 4, and so on…

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[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Also as a karate instructor you’d think he wouldn’t need a gun to kill a man[/quote]

A couple of things:

-The karate instructor was the molester.

-Karate won’t turn you into a death machine. Fights IRL don’t work like that.

-5 years probation is an appropriate sentence, considering how light everyone else gets off.
There’s a thread about this guy who murdered a woman to cover up another alleged killing of his.
He got 2 years and some change because of “temporary insanity”. There are several other cases of child rapists and murderers getting off with 3 years of therapy or less.

So the dad went to the airport with a gun (Class B misdemeanor[at least pre-9/11]) and had a “temporary lapse of judgment” which led to the slaying. Cooperate, plea it down to manslaughter and voila! you got yourself a nice deal!

Good to see one of the “good guys” reaping the benefits of this system.

This actually reminds me of this Russian prison documentary, where some convicts complained that they got 10+ years for drug charges while one guy got 8 for dropping 2 bodies, another murderer getting 4, and so on…[/quote]

The karate thing was a joke, but you’re right I didn’t pick up on the pedo being the karate instructor. Regardless of how others were punished 5 years probation for killing a man that was intentional is bullshit

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None of the questions posed are easy to answer with this.

At its base, it’s a matter of, “What do you consider more important, more crucial - mercy, or justice?”

I’ve been told that I’m more harsh than the average person with… well, just about everything. And I’m not the most compassionate guy, I’ll admit.

But I would not be acting out of justice. I would be acting out of anger, out of vengeance. That undoubtedly makes me worse than a father seeking justice… there would not be mercy in my heart.

But honestly… I can live with that. More humane people couldn’t. I could.

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I fail to see how anything less than his death is justice. If he does kill the bastard, the father should have the contents of the ‘fictional’ journal published to rub the jury’s heart raw and get an easier sentence.

It never fails to amaze me how screwed up the justice system is. There are people serving longer sentences for having a few ounces of a maligned drug in their possession.

It’s only a matter of time - 6 - 8 years, probably - before we hear about how this guy killed again…assuming he gets caught.

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I consider mercy very important, but would be willing to compromise.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
None of the questions posed are easy to answer with this.

At its base, it’s a matter of, “What do you consider more important, more crucial - mercy, or justice?”

I’ve been told that I’m more harsh than the average person with… well, just about everything. And I’m not the most compassionate guy, I’ll admit.

But I would not be acting out of justice. I would be acting out of anger, out of vengeance. That undoubtedly makes me worse than a father seeking justice… there would not be mercy in my heart.

But honestly… I can live with that. More humane people couldn’t. I could.[/quote]

I don’t think anybody is saying these things out of a sense of justice, tipping the scales in favor of good humanity or anything like that. It’s more that people feel vengeance is justifiable in this case given the circumstances.

Or maybe we are both assholes.

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What dday said. They got that scene RIGHT! If someone hurt one of my kids I’d let him know what his left nut tasted like.

Frankly, I don’t understand why the father didn’t just pay someone to shank the guy while he was in prison (unless of course, he wanted to do it himself). It’s EASY to get to someone in prison - even if they are in PC (Punk City). Everyone has a price. And it’s funny because the price to buy drugs or pussy or something from the “outside” is like TEN times more expensive, but the price to have someone killed is TEN times CHEAPER! LOL

I knew a guy who would kill someone for a pack of cigarettes. Didn’t care who it was or what the reason was. There’s a LOT of people like that in prison. Life is CHEAP. That being said, I would TOTALLY understand wanting to take care of business by yourself. Stupid to tell people, though. But whatever. I hope the sick fuck dies slowly, painfully and begging while shitting his pants and biting his tongue in half from the agony.