[quote]TheCanadian wrote:
if everyone had to take responsibility for their poor choices, maybe we would all think a little harder before choosing.[/quote]
This
[quote]Chaddyboxer wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
I’m all for healthy debate and introduction to perceptions I (or you or whomever) has yet to consider…but I have a difficult time acknowledging the validity of an argument that ignores facts associated with this particular case. The posters who cast their light on one aspect in such a black and white manner (the youths age; a man shot and killed and youth of 16; etc.) don’t add anything of substance to move the discussion along.
This case is not as black and white; when taken out of context and displayed as such it can be perceived by someone who didn’t read the article as the old man as the aggressor, when, in reality, he was not. You do not do your argument any justice when you neglect to acknowledge the situation and variables the situation presents.
I agree that it’s a tragedy a young man died, however, I find all the sympathy I have for the case lies with the old man and the effects bound to arise from this encounter as well as with the youth’s family, as I’m sure they are devastated by their loss. I do not, however, have much, if any, sympathy for the deceased individual as I’m sure, based on his displayed reasoning skills and ability to executed a premeditated violent crime (yes, it was a violent crime him and his cohorts were committing. They forcibly knock over, beat, and robbed unsuspecting elderly individuals … this is a point I think those in the black and white group fail to acknowledge which would lend some semblance of credibility to their argument) had the fore-sight and comprehension to assess some level of risk involved and the consequences of such risk.
Now, we will never know what this young man might have achieved in his life, since it was cut short, nor is it relevant. What is relevant is that an innocent individual successfully defended himself using means available to him, and his aggressor, however unfortunate an individual chooses to believe it to be, is dead. I think an aspect that should acknowledged as well is how easily these young hooligans could have mortally injured their victims. Let’s not lose sight that they were targeting elderly people, and were violently attacking them to achieve their main goal of robbing them. As we all are aware, frailty of people is positively correlated with age. I.e. the older a person the easier it is to bruise, break bones, do severe damage to, etc. with less force applied than you would need to with a younger, healthier person. We could just as easily be talking about how these three punks jumped this old guy on the bike trail and killed him.[/quote]
This hits the nail on the head[/quote]
“When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail” - The Iron DWARF!!
Heh heh!
I like your style, Polo!
[quote]westdale warrior wrote:
probably already been posted but this is the world we live in
i fear for my 72year old grandfathers life every night when he goes out to work because of pricks like this[/quote]
That is one of the most fucked up things ive seen, and unsurprisingly it happened in NJ.
[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:
[quote]westdale warrior wrote:
probably already been posted but this is the world we live in
i fear for my 72year old grandfathers life every night when he goes out to work because of pricks like this[/quote]
That is one of the most fucked up things ive seen, and unsurprisingly it happened in NJ.[/quote]
Well, there are assholes in every state. But yeah, fucked up is right.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:
[quote]westdale warrior wrote:
probably already been posted but this is the world we live in
i fear for my 72year old grandfathers life every night when he goes out to work because of pricks like this[/quote]
That is one of the most fucked up things ive seen, and unsurprisingly it happened in NJ.[/quote]
Well, there are assholes in every state. But yeah, fucked up is right.
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Considering waiting until these douches are of age and then going up there to pick on them. I won’t film it. They won’t catch me.
Just finished reading:“the sociopath next door”, and that explains a lot. Some people are simply not born with the conscious we have. I feel for the parents of these kids. Can you imagine having raised a little shit like this, knowing full well that this will only get worse?
Hope the community took care of the homeless guy, he seemed so sad instead of angry.
[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
Just finished reading:“the sociopath next door”, and that explains a lot. Some people are simply not born with the conscious we have. I feel for the parents of these kids. Can you imagine having raised a little shit like this, knowing full well that this will only get worse?
Hope the community took care of the homeless guy, he seemed so sad instead of angry. [/quote]
Well… at least sociopaths start to show reduced signs of the disorder around their 50s typically…
[quote]westdale warrior wrote:
probably already been posted but this is the world we live in
i fear for my 72year old grandfathers life every night when he goes out to work because of pricks like this[/quote]
Sick motherfucking motherfuckers sons of motherfucking fucktards cunts of bitches whores.