the illuminati really know how to rock!
This whole thing is fucked up. What really makes me mad is what I heard on the radio yesterday.
Apparently he’s likely to go to jail for 15 years. 15 years. That’s almost 10 years less than he kept her locked up for.
What kind of a fucked up justice system is that?
[quote]rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
What really bothers me is that that kind of shit is becoming a trend in Austria.
That is probably the 4th case in the last 5 years or so where somebody locks someone up in a dungeon for a few years.
I don´t even want to know how many people are held captive in some perverts cellar in Vienna.
I thought of you when reading the article.
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I laughed so hard, I am now dead.
And the wife claims to know nothing of what went on, and accepted him bringing 3 children into the home to ‘adopt’
beyond comprehension
[quote]Backlash79 wrote:
This article states the kids had never seen daylight before.[/quote]
This is the part of the story that troubles me most. Don’t get me wrong… what he did to his daughter was absolutely horrific to a degree I cannot even comprehend.
But those kids? 19 years old and never seen the outside world ever? How do you even begin to process that? Think about that. That kid has to learn… well… everything. How can you possibly adapt and try to develop even the semblance of a normal existence now?
I cannot think of this story for more than 5 minutes without feeling depressed.
I think he should have to feel all the pain he has caused. Put him in solitary for the rest of his life, with regular beatings and rape thrown in for good measure.
The man is too evil for comprehension. The psychiatric community wackjobs want to study him. For what? His own wife lived with him for those 24 years and had no idea. How can studying evil somehow prevent it in the future?
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
orion wrote:
Our justice system runs under the odd assumption that the government is responsible for peoples safety if it imprisons them.
I do find that assumption to be odd. Anyone who cannot summon the rage to decide that simply locking someone - someTHING - like this away is not sufficient enough punishment is so lacking in empathy for fellow human beings (the daughter and her children/siblings) that it’s frightening. Makes my blood run cold.
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Then it is probably a good thing that you do not make such decisions.
It is not about what he deserves, which no one this side of the grave can dish out anyway, but what we owe to ourselves.
[quote]Roual wrote:
This whole thing is fucked up. What really makes me mad is what I heard on the radio yesterday.
Apparently he’s likely to go to jail for 15 years. 15 years. That’s almost 10 years less than he kept her locked up for.
What kind of a fucked up justice system is that?[/quote]
And afterwards he will be locked away for life.
Because he is a psychopath, not because of his crimes.
To answer your question though it is a justice system with less than 100 known murders a year and 90% of those are solved.
[quote]orion wrote:
What really bothers me is that that kind of shit is becoming a trend in Austria.
That is probably the 4th case in the last 5 years or so where somebody locks someone up in a dungeon for a few years.
I don´t even want to know how many people are held captive in some perverts cellar in Vienna.
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The 4th case?!? There were others apart from Kampusch?
Man, this is so sick. How can a father do this to his daughter???
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
"Tween idol Miley Cyrus, 15, has apologized for provocative pictures that appeared in Vanity Fair calling them a “mistake,” but they are yet another calculated assault on the American psyche, which is being prepared to accept pedophilia.
A society always takes the values of its ruling class, and America (indeed the world) is run by a satanic cult of pedophiles, occultists and criminals known as the Illuminati. They represent the top rung of Freemasonry which is now putting the capstone on their satanic New World Order , which turns Christian civilization on its head.
And that’s Hillary flashing the same sign, because you don’t become President unless you are a member of this tight little club. [/quote]
Hillary Clinton is a pedophile?
[quote]orion wrote:
Roual wrote:
This whole thing is fucked up. What really makes me mad is what I heard on the radio yesterday.
Apparently he’s likely to go to jail for 15 years. 15 years. That’s almost 10 years less than he kept her locked up for.
What kind of a fucked up justice system is that?
And afterwards he will be locked away for life.
Because he is a psychopath, not because of his crimes.
To answer your question though it is a justice system with less than 100 known murders a year and 90% of those are solved.
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Don’t get me wrong, despite appearances, I’m not attacking the Austrian justice system (in hindsight, I could have phrased that post a little better), if what you say is accurate, then as far as I’m aware they have a MUCH better track record than the UK.
I don’t think locking him up is punishment enough, but then what would be? Besides all the physical torture suggested here (which I don’t think would actually be worth while), the only way I can think of punishing him is making him realise what he’s done, but I don’t think that’d be possible.
To be honest, from what I hear on the news almost daily, I don’t have a lot of faith in any justice system.
[quote]Roual wrote:
orion wrote:
Roual wrote:
This whole thing is fucked up. What really makes me mad is what I heard on the radio yesterday.
Apparently he’s likely to go to jail for 15 years. 15 years. That’s almost 10 years less than he kept her locked up for.
What kind of a fucked up justice system is that?
And afterwards he will be locked away for life.
Because he is a psychopath, not because of his crimes.
To answer your question though it is a justice system with less than 100 known murders a year and 90% of those are solved.
Don’t get me wrong, despite appearances, I’m not attacking the Austrian justice system (in hindsight, I could have phrased that post a little better), if what you say is accurate, then as far as I’m aware they have a MUCH better track record than the UK.
I don’t think locking him up is punishment enough, but then what would be? Besides all the physical torture suggested here (which I don’t think would actually be worth while), the only way I can think of punishing him is making him realise what he’s done, but I don’t think that’d be possible.
To be honest, from what I hear on the news almost daily, I don’t have a lot of faith in any justice system.[/quote]
In the end no justice system can deter a person like that.
All you can do is lock them up for life, or threaten to do so, but if that does not stop them, what then?
I just read in a local paper that the 5 years old kid, upon first seeing the sun, uttered “is God up there?”.
You can’t make this stuff up!
[quote]orion wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
orion wrote:
Our justice system runs under the odd assumption that the government is responsible for peoples safety if it imprisons them.
I do find that assumption to be odd. Anyone who cannot summon the rage to decide that simply locking someone - someTHING - like this away is not sufficient enough punishment is so lacking in empathy for fellow human beings (the daughter and her children/siblings) that it’s frightening. Makes my blood run cold.
Then it is probably a good thing that you do not make such decisions.
It is not about what he deserves, which no one this side of the grave can dish out anyway, but what we owe to ourselves.
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We owe it to ourselves not to stand meekly by and treat this as if it were just any sort of crime. As has been pointed out, the ability for someone to dehumanize another person is troubling, but the ability to dehumanize a family member is beyond the pale.
I’ve always considered myself - and been considered by others - to be pretty liberal, but this attitude is pathetic.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
orion wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
orion wrote:
Our justice system runs under the odd assumption that the government is responsible for peoples safety if it imprisons them.
I do find that assumption to be odd. Anyone who cannot summon the rage to decide that simply locking someone - someTHING - like this away is not sufficient enough punishment is so lacking in empathy for fellow human beings (the daughter and her children/siblings) that it’s frightening. Makes my blood run cold.
Then it is probably a good thing that you do not make such decisions.
It is not about what he deserves, which no one this side of the grave can dish out anyway, but what we owe to ourselves.
We owe it to ourselves not to stand meekly by and treat this as if it were just any sort of crime. As has been pointed out, the ability for someone to dehumanize another person is troubling, but the ability to dehumanize a family member is beyond the pale.
I’ve always considered myself - and been considered by others - to be pretty liberal, but this attitude is pathetic.[/quote]
If you consider to remain clear headed even in extreme circumstances pathetic so be it.
I, personally, would not like to live in a society where every atavistic impulse is turned into a law.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Yeah, he needs to be studied alright. With a scalpel.[/quote]
Death of a 1000 cuts.
Speaking of creepy things…
Babies’ bodies in German freezer