[quote]ZEB wrote:
I wonder who will end up getting the worst beat down, the guy Huerta took out, or the lawyer who that guy will most assuredly hire to take every single penny that Huerta is worth?
“Hey they can’t do that man the guy had it coming.”
Ha ha…kids.
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You know the girl can do the same thing.
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
Only ever met one guy like that actually. Most men I know are more likely to stare in helpless disbelief while a woman completely ignores all boundaries at their expence.[/quote]
Umm…not sure what she could be doing while walking away. And, I think someone that hits a women like that is a low-life.
However, saying most men stare in helpless disbelief while a woman completely ignores all boundaries, it’s kind of a misnomer. If he is dealing with a chick that will do that in the first place it’s his fault, just like if a chick deals with a bum it is her fault.
On the rare occasion I miss the signs of a crazy bitch, I’ve been known to shut a trick down. And, I am sure most men can as well. That does not mean I go knocking out women that upset me.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
if a chick deals with a bum it is her fault.
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I see.
“What Roger did was…rage-fuelled vigilantism.” What a douche. Doesn’t the writer know that rage-fueled vigilantism is IN this year? Has he no conept of male fashion whatsoever? The day I take fashion advice from an ass-plundering homo like this writer is the day I slit my own fucking throat.
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
[quote]dylan10507 wrote:
goddamn can we just go back to saying awesome good job roger. Yes if a woman purposely gives you aids and kills your family and is actually an alien sent to destroy the world you can hit her. But goddamn we all know that didn’t happen it’s a video. Like we see bully videos where a dude hits a guy who doesn’t want to fight , not even sucker punches, and the non aggressor wins and everyone says awesome. It’s a girl getting hit in the back of the head full force and some of you guys need to find a reason why it’s her fault?? WTF.
Do you live in the real world? probably a hit on the girl and she was bitchy which is lame of her but of course don’t hit her, or b harrassed the shit out of her till she said something back. With nintey nine percent certainty we can say either she had a bad attitude or he was being a prick and she said things back. Judgeing by his actions and demeanor in the video we can say with 99.9999999% certainanty everything was ALL his fault. I’d bet a million on it.
I see four or five times a day dudes being pricks to girls not hitting on them, I mean like surrounding them in a threatening way, I’ve never seen a girl give a guy aids on purpose.
Rogers badass definetly checking out his next fight way to go roger.
Question for those of you looking for why its the girls fault have you ever
A. Gotten laid
B.Kissed a girl
C.Been on a date
D.Talked to a girl with out her walking away.[/quote]
Have you? If you’ve never seen a woman do something that a man would have been beaten mercilessly for and gotten away with it you haven’t dealt with many women. I’ve never hit a woman, and I’m not condoning it, but it’d be pretty naive to say “Oh that poor poor woman”, and not wonder what she did to piss him off so much that he’d viciously attack her like that.[/quote]
Someone making you angry isn’t reason enough to assault them, especially when you’re striking them after they’ve walked away. You people trying to just pass it off as bias towards the woman need to grow up.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I wonder who will end up getting the worst beat down, the guy Huerta took out, or the lawyer who that guy will most assuredly hire to take every single penny that Huerta is worth?
“Hey they can’t do that man the guy had it coming.”
Ha ha…kids.
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The woman that waits for the man to take every penny Huerta is worth then takes every penny he’s worth.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I wonder who will end up getting the worst beat down, the guy Huerta took out, or the lawyer who that guy will most assuredly hire to take every single penny that Huerta is worth?
“Hey they can’t do that man the guy had it coming.”
Ha ha…kids.
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You know the girl can do the same thing. [/quote]
I agree the girl can do the same thing to the guy who punched her. But, that doesn’t help Huerta one bit. He will still go down either civilly or criminally for what he did and the guys lawyer will see to that.
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
ZEB wrote:
I wonder who will end up getting the worst beat down, the guy Huerta took out, or the lawyer who that guy will most assuredly hire to take every single penny that Huerta is worth?
“Hey they can’t do that man the guy had it coming.”
Ha ha…kids.
The woman that waits for the man to take every penny Huerta is worth then takes every penny he’s worth.
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This is the second post that touts the womans ability to drain her assailant of every cent he has. Bravo, glad you guys are catching on. However, that does not help Roger Huerta one single bit now does it? He still loses in (civil and criminal) court.
Why do I have to spell this out?
Huerta cannot win from this little escapade of his. That no one else has pointed this out is just dam shocking.
Let me help those who might still want to debate the point:
He cannot win because if he is exonerated of all fault it will cost him greatly in lawyers fees. Last time I checked a good lawyer started at $250 per hour and up depending on what part of the country you live in and how good the lawyer is.
He could lose his freedom and every penny he is worth, cars, house, gym equipment etc. If he’s not worth anything there’s a little thing called a garnishee of future wages, earnings etc. Some of you blockheads who have fathered children and tried to escape your responsibilities know all about the garnishee of wages. Those who have not had this experience, I can understand why you wouldn’t know anything about it.
What Huerta did was the peak of stupidity. He not only intervened in this dispute he did it after the fact. The crime was over, the woman was no longer in danger from the man. The man was actually fleeing down the street.
Here’s one way it may sound in court:
“Your honor my client was literally chased down by this, this brutal professional martial artist who fights in a cage! This man should be jailed, he is a danger to society. Heaven knows how many other people he has abused in this manner. He was repeatedly cautioned by his own friend not do go through with this senseless act of violence. Then when he caught up to my client he not only knocked him to the ground with a brutal punch, but repeatedly struck my helpless unconscious client about the head and neck area actually trying to kill him! It is only by the grace of God that my client is even now able to function at a limited level. It is the duty of every peace loving society to get rid of street thugs like Roger Huerta.”
That’s a brief (and sloppy) summation of his criminal trial to give those of you who have zero experience with the system a wake up call. Depending on the specific injuries suffered by the man Huerta could go to jail for several years. That kind of puts a little crimp in his ma career huh?
His civil trial will be even worse as they don’t have to prove with in a shadow of a doubt. All a civil jury needs is something called “preponderance of evidence.” That means that it’s much easier to find him guilty. A good example of this is the OJ Simpson murder trial. OJ beat the criminal trial, but actually lost the 30 million dollar civil suit launched by the Goldman family (and others). Okay that was 15 years ago and most of you were probably only interested in making the Little League team. But it’s the best, and most well known example of how someone can beat a criminal case and still be held accountable through civil action.
As I said if for some reason God smiles on Huerta he will still be saddled with legal fees which could stretch out over a long period of years, as many civil suits do and cost him tens of thousands of dollars.
Huerta cannot win in any way shape or form regarding this case.
Some may still think “it was cool dude,” but in reality it was really, really dumb dude.
Most men and women will like/respect this act. The publicity will build him a bigger fan base than his mma career did. He should come to a settlement with the guy and think of it as the best advertisement campaign an aspiring actor/model could be in.
Who ever posted about guys just staring in disbelief as girls cross all boundries. That is called a pussy. No relation and those girls do not deserve to get hit, everyone knows girls do and say stupid shit sometimes you just say no. I was hitting on a girl last night and being very aggressive telling her I wanted her, she called me a joke I said I am not talking to you again and left, she kept coming back over trying to get a conversation again and get into my convos I ddin’t let her get involved in any convos I was in at all. She was pretty upset and regretted saying what she did and wanted to make me like her again. I didn’t punch her in the goddamn face.
When a chump will do anything to make a girl happy to try and manipulate her into likeing him or haveing sex it’s his own goddamn fault. If a girl insults you and you pull out a hundred dollars and offer to put on a dress for her entertainment while she laughs it’s your damn fault.
What a beautiful Corvette…
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
ZEB wrote:
I wonder who will end up getting the worst beat down, the guy Huerta took out, or the lawyer who that guy will most assuredly hire to take every single penny that Huerta is worth?
“Hey they can’t do that man the guy had it coming.”
Ha ha…kids.
The woman that waits for the man to take every penny Huerta is worth then takes every penny he’s worth.
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This is the second post that touts the womans ability to drain her assailant of every cent he has. Bravo, glad you guys are catching on. However, that does not help Roger Huerta one single bit now does it? He still loses in (civil and criminal) court.
Why do I have to spell this out?
Huerta cannot win from this little escapade of his. That no one else has pointed this out is just dam shocking.
Let me help those who might still want to debate the point:
He cannot win because if he is exonerated of all fault it will cost him greatly in lawyers fees. Last time I checked a good lawyer started at $250 per hour and up depending on what part of the country you live in and how good the lawyer is.
He could lose his freedom and every penny he is worth, cars, house, gym equipment etc. If he’s not worth anything there’s a little thing called a garnishee of future wages, earnings etc. Some of you blockheads who have fathered children and tried to escape your responsibilities know all about the garnishee of wages. Those who have not had this experience, I can understand why you wouldn’t know anything about it.
What Huerta did was the peak of stupidity. He not only intervened in this dispute he did it after the fact. The crime was over, the woman was no longer in danger from the man. The man was actually fleeing down the street.
Here’s one way it may sound in court:
“Your honor my client was literally chased down by this, this brutal professional martial artist who fights in a cage! This man should be jailed, he is a danger to society. Heaven knows how many other people he has abused in this manner. He was repeatedly cautioned by his own friend not do go through with this senseless act of violence. Then when he caught up to my client he not only knocked him to the ground with a brutal punch, but repeatedly struck my helpless unconscious client about the head and neck area actually trying to kill him! It is only by the grace of God that my client is even now able to function at a limited level. It is the duty of every peace loving society to get rid of street thugs like Roger Huerta.”
That’s a brief (and sloppy) summation of his criminal trial to give those of you who have zero experience with the system a wake up call. Depending on the specific injuries suffered by the man Huerta could go to jail for several years. That kind of puts a little crimp in his ma career huh?
His civil trial will be even worse as they don’t have to prove with in a shadow of a doubt. All a civil jury needs is something called “preponderance of evidence.” That means that it’s much easier to find him guilty. A good example of this is the OJ Simpson murder trial. OJ beat the criminal trial, but actually lost the 30 million dollar civil suit launched by the Goldman family (and others). Okay that was 15 years ago and most of you were probably only interested in making the Little League team. But it’s the best, and most well known example of how someone can beat a criminal case and still be held accountable through civil action.
As I said if for some reason God smiles on Huerta he will still be saddled with legal fees which could stretch out over a long period of years, as many civil suits do and cost him tens of thousands of dollars.
Huerta cannot win in any way shape or form regarding this case.
Some may still think “it was cool dude,” but in reality it was really, really dumb dude.
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Someone with real brains here finally. I get tired in explaining this very thing whenever threads like this pop up. What he did to the Bully is assault in the first degree. Fighters like him are lethal weapons and that head stomping session SHOULD cost him some. Any competent lawyer will get a huge judgment against him.
If he was so concerned for the “lady” he should have spent time with her making sure she’s fine and well protected till help arrived. This was EGOTISTICAL vigilantism pure and simple.
It’s not that you’ve to spell it out, no one cares.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
ZEB wrote:
I wonder who will end up getting the worst beat down, the guy Huerta took out, or the lawyer who that guy will most assuredly hire to take every single penny that Huerta is worth?
“Hey they can’t do that man the guy had it coming.”
Ha ha…kids.
The woman that waits for the man to take every penny Huerta is worth then takes every penny he’s worth.
[/quote]
This is the second post that touts the womans ability to drain her assailant of every cent he has. Bravo, glad you guys are catching on. However, that does not help Roger Huerta one single bit now does it? He still loses in (civil and criminal) court.
Why do I have to spell this out?
Huerta cannot win from this little escapade of his. That no one else has pointed this out is just dam shocking.
Let me help those who might still want to debate the point:
He cannot win because if he is exonerated of all fault it will cost him greatly in lawyers fees. Last time I checked a good lawyer started at $250 per hour and up depending on what part of the country you live in and how good the lawyer is.
He could lose his freedom and every penny he is worth, cars, house, gym equipment etc. If he’s not worth anything there’s a little thing called a garnishee of future wages, earnings etc. Some of you blockheads who have fathered children and tried to escape your responsibilities know all about the garnishee of wages. Those who have not had this experience, I can understand why you wouldn’t know anything about it.
What Huerta did was the peak of stupidity. He not only intervened in this dispute he did it after the fact. The crime was over, the woman was no longer in danger from the man. The man was actually fleeing down the street.
Here’s one way it may sound in court:
“Your honor my client was literally chased down by this, this brutal professional martial artist who fights in a cage! This man should be jailed, he is a danger to society. Heaven knows how many other people he has abused in this manner. He was repeatedly cautioned by his own friend not do go through with this senseless act of violence. Then when he caught up to my client he not only knocked him to the ground with a brutal punch, but repeatedly struck my helpless unconscious client about the head and neck area actually trying to kill him! It is only by the grace of God that my client is even now able to function at a limited level. It is the duty of every peace loving society to get rid of street thugs like Roger Huerta.”
That’s a brief (and sloppy) summation of his criminal trial to give those of you who have zero experience with the system a wake up call. Depending on the specific injuries suffered by the man Huerta could go to jail for several years. That kind of puts a little crimp in his ma career huh?
His civil trial will be even worse as they don’t have to prove with in a shadow of a doubt. All a civil jury needs is something called “preponderance of evidence.” That means that it’s much easier to find him guilty. A good example of this is the OJ Simpson murder trial. OJ beat the criminal trial, but actually lost the 30 million dollar civil suit launched by the Goldman family (and others). Okay that was 15 years ago and most of you were probably only interested in making the Little League team. But it’s the best, and most well known example of how someone can beat a criminal case and still be held accountable through civil action.
As I said if for some reason God smiles on Huerta he will still be saddled with legal fees which could stretch out over a long period of years, as many civil suits do and cost him tens of thousands of dollars.
Huerta cannot win in any way shape or form regarding this case.
Some may still think “it was cool dude,” but in reality it was really, really dumb dude.
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Actually, I never actually saw roger take one swing in that video. The headstomp motion could have not hit the guy but been a warning, and also you can’t tell if it’s roger or one of the other shirtless guys out there. We did however see another man take a swing at the guy and miss, so there were obviously men there besides roger who wanted to hit this guy. While we all assume we know what happened, none of US can be sure, and with that being said, none of US can be sure that this guy is going to sue roger and win because of this.
This video WILL be show to anyone judging the case, and I’m pretty sure that a jury or even a judge is going to be pretty leniant after they view the sucker punch on a girl. It’s not like you have robots making decisions based on the strictest definitions of the law. You have Women who have daughters, Men who have daughters, Grandmothers and grandfathers all who will be looking at this through thier own personal lens.
I know if I was sitting on the jury, I would completely ignore what the judge told me and focus soley on the fact that this guy dropped a girl.
V
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Actually, I never actually saw roger take one swing in that video. The headstomp motion could have not hit the guy but been a warning, and also you can’t tell if it’s roger or one of the other shirtless guys out there. We did however see another man take a swing at the guy and miss, so there were obviously men there besides roger who wanted to hit this guy. While we all assume we know what happened, none of US can be sure, and with that being said, none of US can be sure that this guy is going to sue roger and win because of this.
This video WILL be show to anyone judging the case, and I’m pretty sure that a jury or even a judge is going to be pretty leniant after they view the sucker punch on a girl. It’s not like you have robots making decisions based on the strictest definitions of the law. You have Women who have daughters, Men who have daughters, Grandmothers and grandfathers all who will be looking at this through thier own personal lens.
I know if I was sitting on the jury, I would completely ignore what the judge told me and focus soley on the fact that this guy dropped a girl.
V[/quote]
Couldn’t have said it any better myself. Also, even if I was a witness and saw Roger take the first swing at the guy, and then I saw this video. I’ll say I saw nothing after what that guy did to that woman.
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/tag/roger_huerta
All indications are that Mr. Punching Bag is former Texas starting linebacker Rashad Bobino. I’d say that evens out a bit of the perceived unfairness of the fight, even if, in reality Bobino had no chance of defending himself.
The jury selection process is actually intended to weed those out who make decisions off of emotion, your decision as a juror should be built solely on the law[as explained to you] and the ability of the prosecutor to prove the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In fact, one of the first questions which will be asked is probably if you’ll be biased towards the defendant since he essentially assaulted a man for his assault on the woman.
Criminal charges against Huerta depend entirely on the extent of the injuries on the person he supposedly assaulted. If he caused no serious injuries then under Texas law he’d be looking at a maximum of one year in county jail and possibly a fine, with a plea bargain he’d be looking at less time.
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
The jury selection process is actually intended to weed those out who make decisions off of emotion, your decision as a juror should be built solely on the law[as explained to you] and the ability of the prosecutor to prove the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In fact, one of the first questions which will be asked is probably if you’ll be biased towards the defendant since he essentially assaulted a man for his assault on the woman.
Criminal charges against Huerta depend entirely on the extent of the injuries on the person he supposedly assaulted. If he caused no serious injuries then under Texas law he’d be looking at a maximum of one year in county jail and possibly a fine, with a plea bargain he’d be looking at less time.
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I think most are talking about the civil suit, more than the criminal suit. I doubt he’ll get anything for defending that girl. However he might have to fork over some money because the civil suit.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
The jury selection process is actually intended to weed those out who make decisions off of emotion, your decision as a juror should be built solely on the law[as explained to you] and the ability of the prosecutor to prove the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In fact, one of the first questions which will be asked is probably if you’ll be biased towards the defendant since he essentially assaulted a man for his assault on the woman.
Criminal charges against Huerta depend entirely on the extent of the injuries on the person he supposedly assaulted. If he caused no serious injuries then under Texas law he’d be looking at a maximum of one year in county jail and possibly a fine, with a plea bargain he’d be looking at less time.
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I think most are talking about the civil suit, more than the criminal suit. I doubt he’ll get anything for defending that girl. However he might have to fork over some money because the civil suit.
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They’ll probably settle out of court, the amount will depend on his medical, injuries, and legal fees. Regardless, I think the amount requested in the “give us what we want or we take you for everything in court” letter will be relatively modest.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
The jury selection process is actually intended to weed those out who make decisions off of emotion, your decision as a juror should be built solely on the law[as explained to you] and the ability of the prosecutor to prove the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In fact, one of the first questions which will be asked is probably if you’ll be biased towards the defendant since he essentially assaulted a man for his assault on the woman.
Criminal charges against Huerta depend entirely on the extent of the injuries on the person he supposedly assaulted. If he caused no serious injuries then under Texas law he’d be looking at a maximum of one year in county jail and possibly a fine, with a plea bargain he’d be looking at less time.
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I think most are talking about the civil suit, more than the criminal suit. I doubt he’ll get anything for defending that girl. However he might have to fork over some money because the civil suit.
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He was not defending anyone. The crime occurred, the attack ceased. He issued street justice. You can agree with his instance justice, but the law would not. If his injuries were severe enough, he’s looking at agg assault. Kicking and/or stomping someone about the face, head and neck area and you very well may be looking at attempted murder. You cannot even argue this.
I know use of force and continuum of force inside out. This was not a legal use of force. This was an assault. I don’t have a moral opinion on what occurred mind you, but I do have a legal one 
Now, if he attempted to intervene in an attack, in an attempt to defend someone being attacked, he’s permitted to use REASONABLE force to defend himself and the victim. You are NOT permitted to run someone down and administer a beating - no matter how much we enjoyed it
Oh, and by the way, a civil jury may never even hear about the attack on the victim. A judge could very well decide it had no legal bearing on the question of the legality and reasonableness of the assault on the big guy. Even if a judge permitted it, he could choose to sanitize it by only telling a jury that an assault occurred, and was committed by the victim of the beating. But there is a very real chance a jury never hears of the assault on the woman. It’s simply not a defense and the whole thing is on tape.