[quote]Professor X wrote:
Still trying to figure out why some people think their stupid shit is so much less stupid.[/quote]
Well, the thing is, I know that my stupid shit was exactly that. But having gone a similar rout as the guys in the vid, I also kept that as far away as my brothers as possible. They had careers in the military, wives and kids, and generally pretty good lives, while I knew that mine was circling the drain.
Certainly still stupid, but at least considerate of the people I care for.
These guys though, they have a whole different outlook on what it means to care for or about someone. I wouldn’t call it stupid so much as I would call it deranged.
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No argument…but when he is already in the squad car with you…I am betting protecting his military career isn’t primary concern.
That is why I brought up environment.
I have never done cocaine. I know a few people who have, but even they are few and far between simply because of culture differences. Therefore, it is unlikely for me to have this issue.
Yeah, we can talk about IQ’s and whatever, but the reality is, many people, including some who may be considered smart, do even more dumb shit when faced with law enforcement.
I’m a tad slow but for 10 years now you’ve consistently left out entire points to focus on minute aspects to further your own agenda and perpetuate your image on a strength training website? Again, doing something stupid as a FUCKING CHILD is completely different than downing an ounce of coke to save your idiot brother from going to jail. Also, was where did you state that the study you posted was used on habitual users? I can quote “science” that shows eating eggs is bad for you. All in context slick.
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Then post it. Why waste my time with this? Oral cocaine use has a higher risk attached. If you have something showing that to not be the case, post it. Otherwise, your story was pointless. Your friend simply didn’t die.
Prof, you got any brothers? How far would you go for them?
Let’s say your brother willingly provokes a gang. Do you help him fight? He created his own issue but you’d risk your well being to save a person who is obviously wrong?
Or
What if your brother racked up a bunch of debt? You going to bail him out?
I can’t see you saying yes to either situation. The reason why you’ll say no?
Its about risk and consequence. Your brother knows talking shit to a guy who is rolling deep is gonna get him worked.
Your brother would also know that piling debt will negatively affect his life for a long time, if not forever.
Sooooo
If you were in the back of a cop car with your bro and the decision to eat the ozz became a debate, you would
A. Eat the coke and relieve brother of his consequence and possibly die because you never really know what’s in a strret drug no matter the amount
B. Tell him he’s on his on because he knew the risks.
The adult decision is B.
That is what your arguing with Flash about right now. His, and others stupid shit IS less stupid than this because these are two grown ass men who acted this out. Our stupid shit consisted of drinking hot sauce and jumping of garages to mattresses or holding your breath under water…as kids.
And another point
Who says this coke was pure? We bother know you’ll find anything in street drugs
My brother and I would save pennies and then have penny fights where we slung those sumbitches at each other. Wouldn’t kill you but certainly could put out an eye.
We also shot BB and Pellet guns at each other. My brother once got me right between the eyes.
When I stayed with my grandmother on weekends, me my cousins and guys from the neighborhood would hit the railroad tracks and throw those big ass rocks (mini boulders) at each other. I’ve jumped stupid shit (ramps, building to building; climbed stupid shit; aggrivated water mocassins (sp); tortured cats and dogs; just all around dumbass shit. Doesn’t everyone do stupid stuff at some point?
Now having said that - I don’t know if I’m putting anything out of my brother’s butt into my mouth - at least not intentionally.[/quote]
It would have to be life or death. Maybe if the scenario was that the older brother was up for a Nobel Peace Prize and this was the ONLY way to save his legacy…
I’m a tad slow but for 10 years now you’ve consistently left out entire points to focus on minute aspects to further your own agenda and perpetuate your image on a strength training website? Again, doing something stupid as a FUCKING CHILD is completely different than downing an ounce of coke to save your idiot brother from going to jail. Also, was where did you state that the study you posted was used on habitual users? I can quote “science” that shows eating eggs is bad for you. All in context slick.
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Then post it. Why waste my time with this? Oral cocaine use has a higher risk attached. If you have something showing that to not be the case, post it. Otherwise, your story was pointless. Your friend simply didn’t die.[/quote]
I understand the elevated risks associated with oral consumption. He didn’t die 'cause his tolerance for the stuff is quite high. If I had done it, I’m sure I wouldn’t be here now debating this with you. And waste your time? Are you fucking kidding me? Anyone with over 40,000 posts spread over a decade on one site clearly doesn’t have a minute to spare… Nevermind the obvious fact that you’re wrong and everyone here is saying it and you could just not respond.
Who says this coke was pure? We bother know you’ll find anything in street drugs
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This. I think it’s completely retarded to argue over whether or not a person could survive x amount of coke or not. It’s unrealistically hypothetical. There are a stupid number of variables in drug use. Dude could be a habitual user. Drugs could be cut to the point where they’re ridiculously impure and not that strong; they could be cut with something that fucks you up at a high dose. That’s two variables, and there are definitely a shitload more to consider. It’s pointless to speculate about that shit, because it’s such a case-by-case thing.
Also, if you watch the video it’s pretty obvious that the younger brother brings up the idea, and the older brother is reluctant to let it happen at first. It’s tough to make out what they’re saying, but it sounds like the older brother actually thinks his little bro is going to die if he eats it. Even if the little bro was pushing for it, the big bro should have shut him down, especially if he had serious doubts about the safety.
But it doesn’t really matter. Both of those guys are/were idiots for doing this, so there’s not a whole lot to argue there. If anyone is trying to pull a moral out of this, maybe try: don’t mix family and illegal enterprises? Or maybe just: don’t be a fucking idiot.
Yeah, we can talk about IQ’s and whatever, but the reality is, many people, including some who may be considered smart, do even more dumb shit when faced with law enforcement.[/quote]
I call that bad reflexes. There are a few people I know who have the knee jerk response to do the worst possible thing in an already bad situation.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
I call that bad reflexes. There are a few people I know who have the knee jerk response to do the worst possible thing in an already bad situation.
Bank robbery going sour? Shoot Someone!
Cops have you against the wall? Start Swinging!
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I know at least two people like this too. CANNOT have these kind of assholes around when it’s drinking time.
Who says this coke was pure? We bother know you’ll find anything in street drugs
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This. I think it’s completely retarded to argue over whether or not a person could survive x amount of coke or not. It’s unrealistically hypothetical. There are a stupid number of variables in drug use. Dude could be a habitual user. Drugs could be cut to the point where they’re ridiculously impure and not that strong; they could be cut with something that fucks you up at a high dose. That’s two variables, and there are definitely a shitload more to consider. It’s pointless to speculate about that shit, because it’s such a case-by-case thing.
Also, if you watch the video it’s pretty obvious that the younger brother brings up the idea, and the older brother is reluctant to let it happen at first. It’s tough to make out what they’re saying, but it sounds like the older brother actually thinks his little bro is going to die if he eats it. Even if the little bro was pushing for it, the big bro should have shut him down, especially if he had serious doubts about the safety.
But it doesn’t really matter. Both of those guys are/were idiots for doing this, so there’s not a whole lot to argue there. If anyone is trying to pull a moral out of this, maybe try: don’t mix family and illegal enterprises? Or maybe just: don’t be a fucking idiot.[/quote]
I assumed that it was understood that the coke was cut. Pure cocaine is about as rare as a green eyed Chinese girl, and looking at the dudes in question you gotta figure whatever they were holding was seriously stepped on. Either way, both those guys are fucking idiots.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
I call that bad reflexes. There are a few people I know who have the knee jerk response to do the worst possible thing in an already bad situation.
Bank robbery going sour? Shoot Someone!
Cops have you against the wall? Start Swinging!
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I know at least two people like this too. CANNOT have these kind of assholes around when it’s drinking time. [/quote]
It’s amusing to me that there are at least a few people here here who are reformed knuckleheads. I have quite a few buddies like this, and while if they ever needed anything I’d be there in a heartbeat, I’ve had to distance myself from them. That’s part of growing up and gaining wisdom. Unfortunately for the younger brother here, he never got that chance.
I assumed that it was understood that the coke was cut. Pure cocaine is about as rare as a green eyed Chinese girl, and looking at the dudes in question you gotta figure whatever they were holding was seriously stepped on. Either way, both those guys are fucking idiots.[/quote]
Big Trouble In Little China!
I am actually part Chinese and do have green eyes. I have digressed.
BUT, what we do as kids is not what we would do as thinking and rational adults.
I cannot imagine a circumstance where my brother would ever put me in this predicament. And before X goes on about my environment, I spent quite a few summers in Watts. For those who don’t know it isn’t a really friendly town, especially to little blonde girls.
BUT no matter what, neither would I eat drugs out of my brother’s butt nor would he ask me to do so.
Thank goodness Darwin won out in this circumstance. Neither of these folks should procreate.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I’m sorry, but this is fucking retarded. Jumping off a building [which probably means 2 story house] as a child is COMPLETELY different than eating an ozone of yodder out of someone’s ass. I’ve got a lot of friends that I’ve done some REALLY dumb shit for and vice versa, and have in fact even been in a car getting pulled over while a passenger swallowed a little over a gram of coke in a plastic bag [and later chugged tequila and hand soap to try and make himself throw it back up] to avoid the ensuing legal troubles, but there is a limit.
If you can sit here with a straight face and say you’d eat an oz of coke [nevermind where it came from] to help a family member/buddy from going to jail, then you’re a moron.[/quote]
Who here is talking about a buddy? The entire issue from the start has been that they were brothers. If you missed that point being made, why jump in half informed now?
Your friend could have died from that gram of coke. Just because he didn’t doesn’t mean he was smarter.
You typed a whole lot to not make much of a point other than apparently that the amount matters alone.[/quote]
I honestly have never been able to tell if you’re trolling or just a jackass. A decade and 40,000+ posts in I’m guessing it’s the latter.[/quote]
You are a tad slow. A gram of coke is lethal when taken orally. I posted the study. That makes your entire story pointless.[/quote]
And what makes you think you have any idea of the purity of what the guy put in his mouth?
I assumed that it was understood that the coke was cut. Pure cocaine is about as rare as a green eyed Chinese girl, and looking at the dudes in question you gotta figure whatever they were holding was seriously stepped on. Either way, both those guys are fucking idiots.[/quote]
Big Trouble In Little China!
I am actually part Chinese and do have green eyes. I have digressed.
BUT, what we do as kids is not what we would do as thinking and rational adults.
I cannot imagine a circumstance where my brother would ever put me in this predicament. And before X goes on about my environment, I spent quite a few summers in Watts. For those who don’t know it isn’t a really friendly town, especially to little blonde girls.
BUT no matter what, neither would I eat drugs out of my brother’s butt nor would he ask me to do so.
Thank goodness Darwin won out in this circumstance. Neither of these folks should procreate.
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Haha, well shit. Gonna need to find new material. Don’t worry about X judging your environment. The guy apparently never leaves the imaginary walls of T-Nation so you’re good.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I’m sorry, but this is fucking retarded. Jumping off a building [which probably means 2 story house] as a child is COMPLETELY different than eating an ozone of yodder out of someone’s ass. I’ve got a lot of friends that I’ve done some REALLY dumb shit for and vice versa, and have in fact even been in a car getting pulled over while a passenger swallowed a little over a gram of coke in a plastic bag [and later chugged tequila and hand soap to try and make himself throw it back up] to avoid the ensuing legal troubles, but there is a limit.
If you can sit here with a straight face and say you’d eat an oz of coke [nevermind where it came from] to help a family member/buddy from going to jail, then you’re a moron.[/quote]
Who here is talking about a buddy? The entire issue from the start has been that they were brothers. If you missed that point being made, why jump in half informed now?
Your friend could have died from that gram of coke. Just because he didn’t doesn’t mean he was smarter.
You typed a whole lot to not make much of a point other than apparently that the amount matters alone.[/quote]
I honestly have never been able to tell if you’re trolling or just a jackass. A decade and 40,000+ posts in I’m guessing it’s the latter.[/quote]
You are a tad slow. A gram of coke is lethal when taken orally. I posted the study. That makes your entire story pointless.[/quote]
And what makes you think you have any idea of the purity of what the guy put in his mouth?
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Anybody slinging shit not strong enough to kill you won’t last long dealing. Unless they were looking to rip someone off they can’t afford to step on it too hard, cokeheads can be an unforgiving bunch, shit ain’t cheap.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Anybody slinging shit not strong enough to kill you won’t last long dealing. Unless they were looking to rip someone off they can’t afford to step on it too hard, cokeheads can be an unforgiving bunch, shit ain’t cheap.
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Wrong. They’re more likely to use him as a back-up plan, but as long as dope heads [in any fashion] exist, even dealers wih the weakest shit around will always have a job.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Anybody slinging shit not strong enough to kill you won’t last long dealing. Unless they were looking to rip someone off they can’t afford to step on it too hard, cokeheads can be an unforgiving bunch, shit ain’t cheap.
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Wrong. They’re more likely to use him as a back-up plan, but as long as dope heads [in any fashion] exist, even dealers wih the weakest shit around will always have a job.[/quote]
This. No, bullshit like that probably won’t fly with the Wall Street crowd, but they’re connoisseurs. However, there are plenty of demographics that will pay standard rate for the contents of a chalkboard ledge if they have a few drinks and can’t score anything better. People will pay for anything if they want it bad enough and/or have poor enough ability to assess quality.
uh, what? that’s not your normal stupid shit actually…[/quote]
It was normal for me. Sorry I forgot - Turtles too. And before you get upset, it was only strays and I have never hurt a puppy. Maybe a kitten but never a puppy cuz I luvs puppies.