Male Gender Problems in My Multicultural Class

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[quote]kardon wrote:
lifter85 wrote: Basically, if you were to look at a dad in a family, they should be like a superhero to the children. Hard working, knowledgeable, patient, proper decision making, etc.

Shouldn’t BOTH parents be like a superhero? Better to have Superman and Wonder Woman rather than Superman and Lois Lane.[/quote]

I personally would prefer Lois Lane, she seems like she can cook and clean. Wonder Woman can be my mistress, I like her outfit (it be great for the bedroom, and think about the powerful blow jobs) and all I just think the costume would be embarrassing if I wanted to take her to a show, club, or even a honky tonk.

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
fuck it took awhile to find this quote. but it’s one i really enjoy.

â??Midshipmen and cadets remain stronger and more aggressive than their male counterparts at civilian schools. They eagerly play sports such as rugby, boxing, karate, lacrosse, and football. They drive fast cars, usually sports cars. They play hard. They drink hard. They are physical, often abusive among each other. They are not trying to prove their manhood: they are celebrating their masculinity. They are competitive, often vulgar, and tough, and every citizen who may someday send a friend or relative into war should rejoice, because combat is competitive, vulgar, and tough, and they will be leading men in combat.â??

Thomas L Jackson

fmr sec of the navy.

yes, in general i think dudes are becoming entirely to limp-wristed[/quote]

Is that a fucking challenge? I’ll drink you under the table!

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

Is that a fucking challenge? I’ll drink you under the table![/quote]

pffft. u just know i get naked when i drink

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
Brother Chris wrote:

Is that a fucking challenge? I’ll drink you under the table!

pffft. u just know i get naked when i drink[/quote]

Can’t blame a man, bring your teacher friend. She can watch.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Professor X wrote:
artw wrote:
Personally, I think beer commercials and TV shows play a huge part in all of this. I mean seriously, look at them. The males are always these dudes who are portrayed as total dumbfucks who seem to care about two things: beer and sports. You see it in a lot of TV shows too. There must be women with dust-covered twats behind these shows and commercials because it seems like there’s this movement to portray men who aren’t just like women as a bunch of single-cell degenerates who spend all their time drinking beer and talking about trucks and sports and can barely remember their own fucking names.

If I was some ignorant little punk growing up now and was dumb enough to buy into that shit, I’d probably turn into some super-sensitive, emasculated emo douchebag too. There’s seems to be this dumbing down of “men’s men” to the point where if you are a man’s man kind of guy, you must be a complete fucking idiot. For every Jack Bauer or Vic Mackey on TV it seems as if there’s ten or twenty men like those two homos from Friends, Ross and Chandler. It’s time for real men to step it up and TAKE THE POWER BACK!

It may be a little late for that. I work in the medical field and most clinics I have been in (outside of the military) are usually predominantly female. If you speak up “too much” or are “too aggressive” in environments like that, you will get your ass handed to you by human resources.

You see, men waited too long to fix this problem and have now lost the fight. Young boys growing up now will think men are SUPPOSED to be near sub-human compared to women only here to answer their beck and call.

I am all for “women’s rights” but what we are seeing now is a tilt to the extreme in the favor of women in the work place.

So how do we stop them, X? My ideas aren’t good ones, so I ask your opinion.

Stop them? We can’t even get enough men with brains in their head to stand together and make any noise about this. Where there used to be a very clear “good 'ole boy” network, there is now a growing “good 'ole girl” network and anyone who works in a professional setting has probably been witness to this. Women will stand together even if the woman they are protecting is actually in the wrong. Obviously this is a generalization but I have seen it many times over.

For instance, I have gotten much attitude from a couple of assistants in the past basically because they didn’t know what they were doing…however, even though I am the doc, I don’t pay them and am not their direct supervisor because I do not own the clinic (yes, I know that is eventually the goal). If I made noise about their lack of attention or lack of skill to their true supervisor (also a woman) I was reported to human resources because I made them feel bad…even though I said nothing directly to the assistant to correct her.

This is a true story, by the way.

We are screwed and have been for a while. The problem is, there are fewer males actually in high end professional positions so obviously no one barely making minimum wage is going to have much say so about this.[/quote]

When you get the clinic you should have a sign at the front door saying “You are entering a no bitching Zone”

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[quote]xylitol wrote:
Maybe people aren’t looking deeply enough into the changed gender roles?

http://www.datingsecretsformen.com/2009/08/24/the-feminism-problem-part-i/

In this article, the author argues that both the reversion to the cowboy of days past, and the pussified whipped male we have today, are wrong directions for the male gender. His argument is that women have evolved in their roles, raised the bar, and now men must evolve in our roles as well. He believes that we need to find a mission, a life purpose, and devote ourselves to that in order to complete our evolution and get in touch with our inner maleness that has been suppressed due to the change in womens’ roles and the confusion spat at us from a mixed-up society.

I’d like to hear people’s thoughts on both articles in the series.[/quote]
I just read this article and it’s quite good, thanks for the link.

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[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
Professor X wrote:

For instance, I have gotten much attitude from a couple of assistants in the past basically because they didn’t know what they were doing…however, even though I am the doc, I don’t pay them and am not their direct supervisor because I do not own the clinic (yes, I know that is eventually the goal). If I made noise about their lack of attention or lack of skill to their true supervisor (also a woman) I was reported to human resources because I made them feel bad…even though I said nothing directly to the assistant to correct her.

What really sucks about your story is, even when you do own your own clinic, you will still have to deal with this bullshit in the form of discrimination lawsuits and other petty harassment.
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I have no such problems in my place. Incompetent employees are trained and “bad” employees are disciplined and fired when called for. Caring too much about other peoples feelings, worrying about it and it changing you is what being emasculated is all about.

There are many times i know there will be alot of “heat” for actions i’m about to take with an employee. But i go into it knowingly and ready for the shit storm. But i’ll be damned if THEY change ME to suit THEM. No No not here. Sorry. Moving on. Grow a spine people and learn to handle the flame fawners. That’s what being a man is.

Also being a man is not being affected by all this anti men BS. I am my own person. I do not represent the imbecile fools on TV and who even cares about TV? Not me.

Real mean are here. Always have been and always will be here. This transient time in our culture does not phase me.

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And not to mention that the biggest losers in all of this are not the men, but the women. They end up alone with no male to love them and lust after them. They have the frustration of now HAVING to pursue a career and being relegated to second class for wanting to have a family or being home makers. They lose as they feel their clock tick at 35 and go into a panic to have kids. It’s a sad situation for everyone, both men and women actually.

I prefer to be with a woman that’s a feminist. A real feminist. Not some weak schmo that uses feminism as a cover for their weakness and inabilities, as a crutch. But a real feminist. A real feminist is a real man best friend. A confident woman that embraces her womanhood and actually likes being a team mate for her family and husband.

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Focus on the positive weak competition. You guys have choice think outside of the box. You don;t need to graduate high school college or anything to start your own business all you need is balls.

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[quote]Gregus wrote:
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I prefer to be with a woman that’s a feminist. A real feminist… [/quote]

such as???

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[quote]MementoMori wrote:
University is another huge issue in this debate. High school’s have been feminized, girls get higher scores more girls get into university has been a common argument. But the feminization of high school is NOTHING compared to that of the Liberal Arts. Every philosophy, communication, criminology etc etc class HAS to talk about feminism and criticalism, no excuses. Consider a class called Advertising and Society.

I look at this class and think excellent learn how to advertise, that’s a huge field of work, tons of money and tons of potential, I’m down. In reality this class is ALL about how advertising adversly affects the plight of women by sexualizing and infanticizing them in ads(bitches make more than I do, sign me up to be infanticized!)

Media studies, advertising, public relations and on and on and on. None of these classes teach HOW to do ANYTHING! All they do is talk about the detrimental affects they have on society. University is literally a socialist, pinko bitch fest. You get a degree to learn how to become a part of society. And who teaches you? People who have divorced themselves from reality to stand in judgement of it with 8 years of “education” that leaves them with nothing but disdain for capitalism, ambition, drive, agression and adaptability. And its not just women professors teaching this view point but women as well.

In short a bachelor degree is quickly becoming the equivalent of a high school degree. More and more people are going, so it doesn’t really get you anything… it just keeps you equal. And the mind numbing crap you learn while your there leaves you with talent for nothing but analyzing why some rich skinny bitch is worse off than your underemployed, over debted sorry ass.

/rant[/quote]

well you can spot the shit degree from the real degree…
…and if you ain’t sure (such as a History degree, some people bullshit it others don’t) all you gotta do is ask a couple of questions.

Another interesting point to notice is the $$ the department gets. At UMCP the big $$ comes and goes to the sciences, and engineering depts.
Which ones gets the least? Communication (where all the gender classes are) and philosophy.
Oh and the GVPT department thinks it is entitled to more $$.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Let me explain something here, “social norms” or the “status quo” has fucked up this world. Woman may be equal in arbitrary ways/laws/regulations/etc., they are however not true equals.

Sure you can have a strong woman, I like…actually I love a strong woman. I personally hate a fucking drag along, do nothing, lazy Susan. I’ll tell you what, ain’t no woman that I am with is going to make more money than me. You know why, if I’m making X dollars and I am with a woman, and she makes Y dollars, in a year or less I’ll be making Y+ dollars. But, now a days men do not care if their wife is the breadwinner, fuck that, I am the breadwinner no motherfucking questions asked. Not to be sexist, but when I am with a girl I expect shit to be done by her, I really do not give a fuck if she does work. I expect shit to be clean, and I expect food to be on the table. Working maybe a right, but it’s optional when it comes to me. The other shit however is not, I need someone feminine. I do not need my girlfriend to watch football with me and my buddies. I do not need my girlfriend to be my business partner, hell I do not even talk about work to my girlfriends, ain’t none of their business.

And another example if we went to living in the wild, guess what woman would once again have to do, they would have to depend on men. Sure argue all you want, say, “live in reality.” I do live in reality, my reality, and I fucking enjoy it.

And if you really do believe that women are actually our equals (that does not mean we do not treat them kindly) then explain to me why the only two women, in the top ten richest people in the world, are heirs of some country ass mother fucker from Arkansas named Sam Walton (which I deeply respect).[/quote]

You need to be my e-friend.
REQUEST SENT!
Great post.

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:

dudes are becoming entirely to limp-wristed[/quote]

Yes, i was noticing your dad wasn’t tugging as hard as he usually does.

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I’m going to add fuel to the fire, being a former army officer. I once was talking to a Battalion Commander who was telling me I was lucky not to have women in my ranks (I was combat arms-no women). He told me a story of a company commander who had to command 2 company’s his own and another commander who was female while she was on maternity leave. Long story short, he commanded her company nearly the whole time she was a commander (about a year) along with his own and SHE WAS RATED BETTER THAN HIM!

When I was a cadet I was choosing my branch options and I had a master sergeant tell me that I’d be better off going to combat arms where there are no women because they would get you in trouble. File sexual harassment complaints and other things just for ‘making them work.’ I never witnessed this, just things I heard.

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[quote]Neospartan wrote:

well you can spot the shit degree from the real degree…
…and if you ain’t sure (such as a History degree, some people bullshit it others don’t) all you gotta do is ask a couple of questions.

Another interesting point to notice is the $$ the department gets. At UMCP the big $$ comes and goes to the sciences, and engineering depts.
Which ones gets the least? Communication (where all the gender classes are) and philosophy.
Oh and the GVPT department thinks it is entitled to more $$.

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But the thing is people can still be advertisers, communication consultants, PR specialists, journalists, marketing consultant etc etc. These are flourishing service sector jobs with room for growth and profitability. But in order to get such jobs you are greatly assisted by a Communications Degree. So these degrees should be teaching you HOW and not WHY NOT.
If I ever want to succeed in my field of interest I have to navigate my way through a university degree in which I have to strive for the highest grades achievable while blocking out all “information” my professors test me on.

What it comes down to is doublethink. I have to learn this stuff while ignoring the fact its in my head. Otherwise I’ll be left a limp socialist without the wherewithal to climb the corporate ladder.

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[quote]Gregus wrote:
I prefer to be with a woman that’s a feminist. A real feminist. Not some weak schmo that uses feminism as a cover for their weakness and inabilities, as a crutch. But a real feminist. A real feminist is a real man best friend. A confident woman that embraces her womanhood and actually likes being a team mate for her family and husband. [/quote]

Every woman born since 1950 calls her self a feminist and they all mean something different. Generally I guess you could say a feminist is pro-woman, but that’s still kind of odd because why would anybody support a random stranger just because they happen to be of the same gender? And support them in what?

I just like women. Especially ones that are secure enough in themselves that they don’t feel the need a label, or some artificial sense of solidarity.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Let me explain something here, “social norms” or the “status quo” has fucked up this world. Woman may be equal in arbitrary ways/laws/regulations/etc., they are however not true equals.

Sure you can have a strong woman, I like…actually I love a strong woman. I personally hate a fucking drag along, do nothing, lazy Susan. I’ll tell you what, ain’t no woman that I am with is going to make more money than me. You know why, if I’m making X dollars and I am with a woman, and she makes Y dollars, in a year or less I’ll be making Y+ dollars. But, now a days men do not care if their wife is the breadwinner, fuck that, I am the breadwinner no motherfucking questions asked. Not to be sexist, but when I am with a girl I expect shit to be done by her, I really do not give a fuck if she does work. I expect shit to be clean, and I expect food to be on the table. Working maybe a right, but it’s optional when it comes to me. The other shit however is not, I need someone feminine. I do not need my girlfriend to watch football with me and my buddies. I do not need my girlfriend to be my business partner, hell I do not even talk about work to my girlfriends, ain’t none of their business.

And another example if we went to living in the wild, guess what woman would once again have to do, they would have to depend on men. Sure argue all you want, say, “live in reality.” I do live in reality, my reality, and I fucking enjoy it.

And if you really do believe that women are actually our equals (that does not mean we do not treat them kindly) then explain to me why the only two women, in the top ten richest people in the world, are heirs of some country ass mother fucker from Arkansas named Sam Walton (which I deeply respect).[/quote]

It seems pretty delusional to believe that you can surpass any woman’s salary in a year. Do also believe that you could become a chess grand master in a year just because there are some female grand masters? And if you’re earning potential is so unlimited and you’re so talented, what’s the point of claiming men are superior to women? Just make a shit ton of money and hire some housekeepers if your spouse wants to work.

To the OP: If you do get some shit for what you said just look at it as an opportunity to practice your debate skills. Although It doesn’t really seem like what you said will be a big deal unless you said it in a jackass kind of way.

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Brother Chris, I somehow picture you as living on a spinoff Branch-Davidian weirdo compound.

OP:

You can argue media culpability all you want, but a HUGE reason why modern man is “feminized” is because of typical single mother upbringing that these men have. No woman can expect to teach a man how to act like a man. Just as no father can expect to teach her daughter how to act like a woman.

You want to change things? Start preaching to dudes to wrap their shit up and not just fuck any random girl without a wrapper.

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[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Brother Chris, I somehow picture you as living on a spinoff Branch-Davidian weirdo compound.

OP:

You can argue media culpability all you want, but a HUGE reason why modern man is “feminized” is because of typical single mother upbringing that these men have. No woman can expect to teach a man how to act like a man. Just as no father can expect to teach her daughter how to act like a woman.

You want to change things? Start preaching to dudes to wrap their shit up and not just fuck any random girl without a wrapper.[/quote]

Unfortunatly a lot of pussywipped guys come from families with father and a mother. I say the majority of them do.

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[quote]Rivalry wrote:
Brother Chris wrote:
Let me explain something here, “social norms” or the “status quo” has fucked up this world. Woman may be equal in arbitrary ways/laws/regulations/etc., they are however not true equals.

Sure you can have a strong woman, I like…actually I love a strong woman. I personally hate a fucking drag along, do nothing, lazy Susan. I’ll tell you what, ain’t no woman that I am with is going to make more money than me. You know why, if I’m making X dollars and I am with a woman, and she makes Y dollars, in a year or less I’ll be making Y+ dollars. But, now a days men do not care if their wife is the breadwinner, fuck that, I am the breadwinner no motherfucking questions asked. Not to be sexist, but when I am with a girl I expect shit to be done by her, I really do not give a fuck if she does work. I expect shit to be clean, and I expect food to be on the table. Working maybe a right, but it’s optional when it comes to me. The other shit however is not, I need someone feminine. I do not need my girlfriend to watch football with me and my buddies. I do not need my girlfriend to be my business partner, hell I do not even talk about work to my girlfriends, ain’t none of their business.

And another example if we went to living in the wild, guess what woman would once again have to do, they would have to depend on men. Sure argue all you want, say, “live in reality.” I do live in reality, my reality, and I fucking enjoy it.

And if you really do believe that women are actually our equals (that does not mean we do not treat them kindly) then explain to me why the only two women, in the top ten richest people in the world, are heirs of some country ass mother fucker from Arkansas named Sam Walton (which I deeply respect).

It seems pretty delusional to believe that you can surpass any woman’s salary in a year. Do also believe that you could become a chess grand master in a year just because there are some female grand masters? And if you’re earning potential is so unlimited and you’re so talented, what’s the point of claiming men are superior to women? Just make a shit ton of money and hire some housekeepers if your spouse wants to work.

How is it delusional if I do it? I am not following, explain this further to me.

This information might help you, I do not work for anyone. I work for myself and my clients. My income can dramatically increase throughout a year, unlike someone who works for a company and has to climb the corporate ladder.

To the OP: If you do get some shit for what you said just look at it as an opportunity to practice your debate skills. Although It doesn’t really seem like what you said will be a big deal unless you said it in a jackass kind of way.
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