Magnesium sources for sleep?

Today I had a conversation with my friend, and I brought up how when I sleep, its generally low quality. She then mentioned that she had a similar issue (insomnia), but after taking a magnesium supplement, her sleep improved. She then suggested that I try that.

Now, I don’t want to EVER take “supplements”. Its too fake and I don’t agree with the use of them. What foods can I eat that are a good source of magnesium? And I suppose as an even better question, DOES magnesium help with better sleep?

Now, I don’t want to EVER take “supplements”. Its too fake and I don’t agree with the use of them.

It’s interesting you picked the forum of a supplement company to have this philosophy…

We’re magnesium deficient as a species because we no longer drink from fresh streams and our agricultural practices have taken many of these nutrients out of our soil, which means the plants and animals we eat that eat these plants that grow in this soil are also deficient. Supplements are a pretty effective way to even the odds when the environment that you live in is fake.

Magnesium absolutely goes a long way toward improving sleep. I apologize for not having a direct answer as it relates to food (my solution is a supplement), but more an explanation for how attempting to live “not fake” can set you up for a fake deficiency.

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Well, I never realised that when I originally came to this website, it was just a search result, and I liked it, so I stayed.

I live near a creek. Though, I would NEVER call it fresh or clean, plus it has had legionairres disease in there before, plus who knows how polluted it is. Hm. I could do a small study.

Im not denying the supplements are useful, but, philosophically I am against them.

I live near a creek. Though, I would NEVER call it fresh or clean, plus it has had legionairres disease in there before, plus who knows how polluted it is. Hm. I could do a small study.

Yeah, don’t do it now: our waterways are completely polluted.

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You can Google that and save me typing a ton of keystrokes.

One easy thing to do is never drink or cook with softened water. The Na+ ion replaces all the mineral cations (Ca++, Mg++) that are beneficial to your health.

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I read this at first as “The Nation replaces all the …”, with the + as a censorship sign (though I suppose its not wrong either?)

How do I tell if its softened water? Is tap water softened? What about bottle water? We use tap water for cooking, but we would never drink that crap.

My house has softened water and I never knew this. Thank you.

Na+ is the chemical symbol for the sodium ion. It is helpful if you feel comfortable with jargon of chemistry. The “+” is to note that the sodium ion has a single electron removed for a simple ionic bond with an anion which has an extra electron.

A water softener is a simple ion exchange to replace the minerals in water that plate scale in water lines with sodium instead.

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Oh, yeah, im familiar with the symbology of it. I just misread at first.

Magnesium glycinate is what you want. That and L Theanine.

I eat spinach for magnesium but let’s be real a couple cups of spinach isn’t fixing a mag deficiency. Like pwnisher said our entire environment is “fake”. Everything is polluted and genetically modified. Our soil is stripped of it’s nutrients. Just take some pills of mag gly and l theanine.

Note make sure its glycinate. The other kind is a laxative.

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Without being technical at all. I take Mag and notice a big improvement in my sleep. I sleep deeper longer.

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Funny this popped up, I just starting taking Magnesium again this morning after becoming lazy with it for several years.

I know most people take it at night, but I accidently ordered stuff with B6. I know there’s nothing “wrong” with that, although I know from my previous experience from taking ZMAs, I’m one of the rare people that B6 seemed to interfere with rather than help with my sleep. I’m hoping it helps a bit with my upper back stiffness from training and too many hours at a desk every day. And ultimately just chill me out a bit.

I get the philosophy of not wanting to take supplements from a place of getting it through diet (I don’t drink protein shakes for that exact reason, it keeps me more whole and honest with my food choices and actually works against me if I use them). Avoiding something like magnesium for similar reasons seems silly though. Would you move to Iceland and not take Vitamin D?

It dawned on me today that table salt is as much a supplement as supplemental magnesium is.

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What about an Epsom Salt bath for magnesium?

You dissolve the mineral in the water, then absorb through your skin. Is it a “supplement” if you don’t eat it?

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I don’t know how successful that would be to absorb magnesium. But I do know that the osmotic flow of water is from the isotonic object (your body) into the hypertonic solution (salt bath).

So, what I don’t know is whether the absorption of a mineral through the skin membrane is possible when it is against the osmotic flow of water.

For what it is worth a salt bath is what I would do the morning of a contest if I woke up and saw that I looked smoother than I had expected. It was fairly effective at pulling out subcutaneous water to give me a more defined look.

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Apparently the absorbtion is through the hair follicles. I don’t know if that bypasses osmosis or what.

Epsom salt baths do seem to help my little daughter sleep, but I don’t know how convincing that is.

Here are some high Magnesium foods.

Lol they made it per 2000 calories why not like 100 calories since thats a normal serving :laughing:

I ran the numbers and I actually get most of my magnesium from almonds. I eat like 4-5 ounces of almonds a day which is 300-400mg so thats pretty good. Plus the spinach and brocolli I eat every day. Whats crazy is 30g of spinach has 24mg of magnesium while 28g of almonds has 70mg.

Yeah, I agree, strange format.

Heres a menu from the internet.

High-Magnesium Eating Plan Example (Approx. 400-450mg)

  • Breakfast: Oatmeal ((75\text{g}) cooked) (50mg) with 2 Tbsp flaxseed (111mg) and a banana (32mg).
  • Lunch: Large spinach salad (½ cup cooked = 83mg) with black beans (½ cup = 60mg) and 1 oz pumpkin seeds (168mg).
  • Dinner: 3 oz Salmon (7% Daily Value) with quinoa (½ cup = 63mg) and steamed Swiss chard (80mg).
  • Snack: 1 oz dry roasted almonds

If you’re specifically looking for a sleep aid, pistachios are a better choice over almonds. They have a moderate amount of magnesium and b6 (sorry @cdep89), and contain a high amount of melatonin.

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