MAG-10 and Receptormax?

Are those of you who use both products taking MAG-10 and Receptormax together 30 minutes before a meal?

Shouldn’t be a problem if your meal contains carbs. You cannot take Receptormax on a low carb diet. It can be used while carb cycling, but you have to be careful not to go hypoglycemic (as 4-hydroxyisoleucine tends to do). This is very bad.

[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
Shouldn’t be a problem if your meal contains carbs. You cannot take Receptormax on a low carb diet. It can be used while carb cycling, but you have to be careful not to go hypoglycemic (as 4-hydroxyisoleucine tends to do). This is very bad.[/quote]

Actually, according to Dr. Ziegenfuss, it’s not as clear cut as that. Here’s his quote from the Receptormax discussion thread when asked whether Receptormax would be useful to someone on a low-carb diet.

“It depends. If you’re consuming lots of saturated and trans fats during your low carb phase, then ReceptorMax would be useful. If you’re drinking olive oil and low carb Metabolic Drive slurries, then maybe not. But in any case, start out with a lower dose to see how you feel (i.e., how your blood sugar responds). Sorry to sound like a broken record, but no single strategy works for everyone and low carb diets can be tricky.”

I have actually used it on pretty low carb diets and didn’t have a problem. It actually felt like it kept my blood sugar levels steady and stable once I started using it regularly.
Tried 2-3 caps with high carb meals and it worked fine as long as the carbs were NOT mostly simple otherwise I would go hypo.

Tried the 2-3 caps before a workout with Gatorade and whey isolate and I went hypo. Tried it again with only one cap and I was fine.
So my interpretaion is that it shouldn’t be taken with simple carbs or more than one cap with simple carbs. At least for me anyway.

I will soon try it with the Anaconda protocol to see how it feels. I’m assuming that there is so much volume of calories in that protocol that the Receptormax won’t be able to clear it out fast enough to make me go hypo.

Thanks for the info Mod Brian. I’ll have to read through that Receptormax thread again and do some more researching on the fat mix thing. I do agree with the anecdotal feedback that “as” has given though. His dosing recommendations sound about right.

AS - please let us know how it works for you on the Anaconda Protocol. My guess is that it would be fine with the amount of carbs from 3 FINiBARs. Maybe you could try matching the # of caps to the # of bars you eat (if your only carb source is the FINiBARs… this is just a guess though. Keep us updated on your testing. I’ll be trying something similar.

[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
Shouldn’t be a problem if your meal contains carbs. You cannot take Receptormax on a low carb diet. It can be used while carb cycling, but you have to be careful not to go hypoglycemic (as 4-hydroxyisoleucine tends to do). This is very bad.[/quote]

That’s actually not true. You can take Receptormax on a low-carb diet. I still use it when low-carb dieting when getting very lean.

[quote]Mod Brian wrote:

[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
Shouldn’t be a problem if your meal contains carbs. You cannot take Receptormax on a low carb diet. It can be used while carb cycling, but you have to be careful not to go hypoglycemic (as 4-hydroxyisoleucine tends to do). This is very bad.[/quote]

Actually, according to Dr. Ziegenfuss, it’s not as clear cut as that. Here’s his quote from the Receptormax discussion thread when asked whether Receptormax would be useful to someone on a low-carb diet.

“It depends. If you’re consuming lots of saturated and trans fats during your low carb phase, then ReceptorMax would be useful. If you’re drinking olive oil and low carb Metabolic Drive slurries, then maybe not. But in any case, start out with a lower dose to see how you feel (i.e., how your blood sugar responds). Sorry to sound like a broken record, but no single strategy works for everyone and low carb diets can be tricky.”[/quote]

Yup. I’ve used it with success. Thib has recommended it as well.

What I was really wondering about was taking MAG-10 and Receptormax concurrently. Receptormax is to be taken 30 minutes prior to eating. That is also one useful application of MAG-10. I have been taken them both together and then eating a meal 30 minutes later and feeling fine. But don’t know if there are any contraindications.

[quote]Mod Brian wrote:

[quote]BulletproofTiger wrote:
Shouldn’t be a problem if your meal contains carbs. You cannot take Receptormax on a low carb diet. It can be used while carb cycling, but you have to be careful not to go hypoglycemic (as 4-hydroxyisoleucine tends to do). This is very bad.[/quote]

Actually, according to Dr. Ziegenfuss, it’s not as clear cut as that. Here’s his quote from the Receptormax discussion thread when asked whether Receptormax would be useful to someone on a low-carb diet.

“It depends. If you’re consuming lots of saturated and trans fats during your low carb phase, then ReceptorMax would be useful. If you’re drinking olive oil and low carb Metabolic Drive slurries, then maybe not. But in any case, start out with a lower dose to see how you feel (i.e., how your blood sugar responds). Sorry to sound like a broken record, but no single strategy works for everyone and low carb diets can be tricky.”[/quote]

I curious why the amount of trans fat would change how useful ReceptormMax would be. Doesn’t seem that anyone would ever want to consume a lot of trans fat on a low-carb diet anyway…