[quote]jdrannin1 wrote:
Just curious, what was your pct like?
tin can
It was really simple, 4 weeks of 60mg anavar and 4 weeks of nolvadex, 30mg. With a shit load of b-vitamins, some zinc and vitamin e and c. I was still real naive on steroids then, but it was an ok pct. It probably should have been longer though. [/quote]
That’s very strange as anavar is not really considered a pct tool. Actually it only extended your cycle. The nolva seems fine though. The vitamins well that’s something that you should always be taking…
I actually know alot of people who did M1T then used tribulus and creatine for pct and did just fine. I’m supposed to start my cycle tomorrow but I’ve had the shits all day and I won’t put that in my body if that keeps up! I think it’s the chocolate milk, fucking explosive man ha ha ha.
Explosive chocolate milk shits…bahahaha. I cant believe you said that, lol. Anyways, about the anavar, i was taught that weaning off a heavy cycle with low doses of an ababolic and an anti-estrogen would result in less of a crash. Even if that pct, had something like anavar or maybe a low dose of winstrol, as long it was a low dose combined with something to take care of the estrogen, it was just a smoother come down. But I dont have a lot of experience.
[quote]cadav wrote:
Hi,
for bulking which one of this drugs can give me better results?
and what about liver toxicity? is the same for both the drugs?[/quote]
Im actually on OT right now… Just taking it alone to see how it is and so far Im pretty impressed. Many have said it doesnt kick in until the 3rd week but I noticed it pretty fast. I did notice the back pumps around the second week but after that it seemed to went away.
I will be doing back in the next couple days and doing deadlifts so we’ll see how much it affects me. Also, taking synthergine, liv-52, and essentiale forte for liver protection even though its not that harsh on the liver I still want to keep it as strong and healthy as possible taking no risks.
Most say you dont need pct but I will be running nolva regardless for 3 weeks at 40/30/20.
Well fuck it,
I took my first 10mg M1T yesterday and trained arms. Had a great workout and awesome pump. Got home and burned one down to sleep for a while and wake up with a great appetite as always. (time for second post workout meal consisting of 2 blueberry and 2 strawberry poptarts and 2 scoops of whey approx 1000 cal!) I am a little concerned with the ol’ tokin habit with the M1T. I mean how lethargic do you want to be? I must say I was feeling a little weird last night but that is psycological I believe.
But then it hit me, I had to take a shit and real bad! The smell was fucking horrible but it was a one time unloding… (didn’t even have time to start reading anything yet) Then again 45 min or so I had to go for a massive download, the kind where you have to go and NOW! I’m not sure if it was the M1T or the spaghetti I ate. My stomach is often sensitive to tomato sauce… I also used meat that was in the freezer for a while, probably didn’t chew enough either. Slept fine and today I train legs, can’t wait.
Your pct looked o.k. I think we both know there could be better, we learn as we go… I may run some letro or rebound with tribulus and creatine for sure, I am taking tribulus through out the cycle and started about 2 weeks before M1T.
[quote]lkyleclarkel wrote:
considering both of these are pretty much impossible to get, what would be the next best thing to get? and where could i get it?[/quote]
I’m quit sure if you were to go to one of your local ma and pa shops they would have some. If you do use it, make sure you have the anti e’s before starting. Don’t fuck it up like me. My left lower peck is still feeling the curse of the estrogen fairy. This could have been avoided. Again get the anti e’s man, have you ever priced a gyno surgery? Ya don’t wanna know.
i am a 17 year old 150 lb. high school student.
i recently bought some m1t’s
10 mg - 80 caps.
i have been taking 1 pill a day
eating burgers and fattening shit everyday
is that wrong ?.
i have been on it for about a week now
working out pretty damnn seriously.
and havent noticed any results.
although it has made me quite sleepy
and a very hungry kid. i was wondering if i should be taking any protein shakes along with my cycles of m1t.
and has anybody noticed any mental changes ?
everytime i popp a pill i get like a rush about an hour later and i can pump almost twice my normal limit no problem… it only lasts for about 2 hours tho… and it makes me feel pretty cocky. i havent had the shits yet. i havent had headaches or fevers or anything like that. it hasnt been effecting me aside from the 2 hour rush. . wtf… i paid for a increase in mass… am i doing something wrong ?
[quote]knightmere wrote:
i am a 17 year old 150 lb. high school student.
i recently bought some m1t’s
10 mg - 80 caps.
i have been taking 1 pill a day
eating burgers and fattening shit everyday
is that wrong ?.
i have been on it for about a week now
working out pretty damnn seriously.
and havent noticed any results.
although it has made me quite sleepy
and a very hungry kid. i was wondering if i should be taking any protein shakes along with my cycles of m1t.
and has anybody noticed any mental changes ?
everytime i popp a pill i get like a rush about an hour later and i can pump almost twice my normal limit no problem… it only lasts for about 2 hours tho… and it makes me feel pretty cocky. i havent had the shits yet. i havent had headaches or fevers or anything like that. it hasnt been effecting me aside from the 2 hour rush. . wtf… i paid for a increase in mass… am i doing something wrong ?[/quote]
Yes you are doing plenty wrong. You are 17 years old and taking steroids. In case the guy at the supp store didnt tell you M1ts convert when in the body.
Be prepared to be even more lethargic than you are now and if you dont have any gyno symtoms yet, be ready, they will come. Possibly months after you are done with the M1Ts.
There is absolutly no need for steriods/prohormones at your age as you should grow like a weed with proper nutrition and training.
See Ya