Lucid Dreaming

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[quote]digitalairair wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:
I just heard about this.

Anyone ever had one? Intentionally or otherwise.

I’m kind of interested to try it.[/quote]

I think the key is practicing. When you know you are dreaming, there’s a part of your brain that knows it and make sure you keep telling yourself that it’s a dream it’s a dream! while doing crazy shit.

My best lucid dream:

I was about to go down on Vivian during a 69 when I noticed a pinhead sized frog egg attached stubbornly between the 7th and 8th folds of her labia.

I tried to blow it off. No use.

Then I examined it with a microscope and saw a white, almost see-through elephant floating in the middle of the egg like a nucleus, with what looks exactly like me floating around it like an electron in extreme high speed.

I put down the microscope and started licking the egg until it squirted out creatine like a lazer beam.

All the while she gave me the best blow job of my life.

Afterwards I gained 10 pounds.

Also, write down all your dreams in a dream journal. If you do this, it will make lucid dreaming more frequent. But I think the most important thing is to keep thinking about and believing that you will lucid dream at night during waking hours.

Hope this helps.[/quote]

Frank Yang in true form right here.

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[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

Trying to walk the line between being conscious enough to maintain control and still be in the dream, is the hard part.[/quote]

Yes! I can’t tell you how many times I finally realized I was dreaming where that in and of itself woke me up. [/quote]
That always happens to me during the ‘good’, and somewhat messy, dreams.

:[

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[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
Have had two in the last 2 months. It is an amazing feeling and the emotion of it permeates the whole rest of your day.
It’s even better when you not only realise you are dreaming and still asleep thus becoming partly concious in your dream state, but actually manage to give yourself a concious command to do something in your dream (mine was looking at my hands)
Then things get really interesting…[/quote]

Very interesting. I’d be a bit worried about the old hag thing though.

How did you do it?[/quote]

I’m not too sure what you and others mean by the old hag thing? I did not mention anything about an old hag in this post.

As for how I did it…

The first time was purely because I noticed a discrepancy with the time of day.
I had woken up to the alarm with the intention of going for a bike ride at dawn and had gotten up out of bed to check out the day. I pulled open the curtains a crack and looked out at my street and saw the sun coming up on what looked to be a lovely summers day.
I was pretty wrecked from a tough week at work and a big night out so I lay back down on the bed for a bit to chill and wake up a bit more before going out.

I fell back asleep and then started to dream of doing exactly the same thing in my dream…except this time when I pulled open the curtains a bit to check on the day it was night outside with alot of stars and a newly risen moon.

That is when I realised that I was alseep and dreaming because I knew it was not night time.
I had a pre-arranged command to give my self should I happen to become aware I was dreaming and I managed to do it, which was to tell myself to raise my hands in the dream and look at them. (this is a classic “dream command” to use from the works of Carlos Casteneda) I looked at my hands and that is when I fully realised that I was doing concious volitional things in a dream world where that sort of thing does not normally happen. Ie the crazy dream things just happen to you and you don’t even realise it’s a dream till you wake up.

I realised that I was doing something like I was awake but that I was asleep and dreaming.
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By old hag I basically meant sleep paralysis but I understand now that’s something completely different

It’s starting to sound like a lot of effort but also maybe worth it

I’ve had dreams that are incredibly detailed and vivid that seem like actual memories of events rather than dreams like some of you are saying but I’ve never been able to control my actions in those dreams.

It’s always been more like watching a film than starring in one

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

Trying to walk the line between being conscious enough to maintain control and still be in the dream, is the hard part.[/quote]

Yes! I can’t tell you how many times I finally realized I was dreaming where that in and of itself woke me up. [/quote]
That always happens to me during the ‘good’, and somewhat messy, dreams.

:[[/quote]
lol

That happens to me sometimes with food dreams. I’m just about to take a bite and whoosh dammit awake and no sandwich. I think I just can’t fool myself any longer when I try to eat.

Most of the time for me a lucid dream happens when I sleep in for work or if I take a day off and go back to bed. Once I become aware I just take control, usually trying something to test it’s a dream like levitating or something. As long as I stay away from the fridge in my dream :stuck_out_tongue:

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

Trying to walk the line between being conscious enough to maintain control and still be in the dream, is the hard part.[/quote]

Yes! I can’t tell you how many times I finally realized I was dreaming where that in and of itself woke me up. [/quote]
That always happens to me during the ‘good’, and somewhat messy, dreams.

:[[/quote]
lol

That happens to me sometimes with food dreams. I’m just about to take a bite and whoosh dammit awake and no sandwich. I think I just can’t fool myself any longer when I try to eat.

Most of the time for me a lucid dream happens when I sleep in for work or if I take a day off and go back to bed. Once I become aware I just take control, usually trying something to test it’s a dream like levitating or something. As long as I stay away from the fridge in my dream :stuck_out_tongue:

[/quote]
Just watch out for the George Costanza effect… “you’ve combined food and sex into one disgusting uncontrollable urge!”

edit: and why are you dreaming about a sandwich of all things LOL

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[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:

[quote]lemony2j wrote:

[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:
Have had two in the last 2 months. It is an amazing feeling and the emotion of it permeates the whole rest of your day.
It’s even better when you not only realise you are dreaming and still asleep thus becoming partly concious in your dream state, but actually manage to give yourself a concious command to do something in your dream (mine was looking at my hands)
Then things get really interesting…[/quote]

Very interesting. I’d be a bit worried about the old hag thing though.

How did you do it?[/quote]

I’m not too sure what you and others mean by the old hag thing? I did not mention anything about an old hag in this post.

As for how I did it…

The first time was purely because I noticed a discrepancy with the time of day.
I had woken up to the alarm with the intention of going for a bike ride at dawn and had gotten up out of bed to check out the day. I pulled open the curtains a crack and looked out at my street and saw the sun coming up on what looked to be a lovely summers day.
I was pretty wrecked from a tough week at work and a big night out so I lay back down on the bed for a bit to chill and wake up a bit more before going out.

I fell back asleep and then started to dream of doing exactly the same thing in my dream…except this time when I pulled open the curtains a bit to check on the day it was night outside with alot of stars and a newly risen moon.

That is when I realised that I was alseep and dreaming because I knew it was not night time.
I had a pre-arranged command to give my self should I happen to become aware I was dreaming and I managed to do it, which was to tell myself to raise my hands in the dream and look at them. (this is a classic “dream command” to use from the works of Carlos Casteneda) I looked at my hands and that is when I fully realised that I was doing concious volitional things in a dream world where that sort of thing does not normally happen. Ie the crazy dream things just happen to you and you don’t even realise it’s a dream till you wake up.

I realised that I was doing something like I was awake but that I was asleep and dreaming.

[/quote]

To my knowledge the Old Hag is related to a different sleep phenomena known as sleep paralysis and not lucid dreaming.[/quote]

I’ve had that experience many, many times… the Medical community calls it sleep paralysis and it is nothing of the paranormal nature… It is actually a shifting of sleep cycles and rapid eye movement, where one can awaken but the body is still immobolized because its in a sleep cycle delay until full cognitive function again…

For me it happened consitently when I was extremely stressed and under severe anxiety, like I never actually had a solid deep sleep for a long time and my body was exhausted no matter how much I slept.

As for Lucid dreaming there is actual audio guided brain wave tools on youtube to help gain full control and lucitity within dreaming… Lucid Dream Induction - "The I-Dreamer" - 90-Min Sleep Cycle (Isochronic Tones) - YouTube, plenty of different videos. Some even have break points with signals to announce that you are asleep as a reminder… Really trippy…

Got to 1:10:35 in the video to hear the reality check voice.

something else interesting

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It happened to me a lot during the last 2 years when i got into competive martial arts training.
All I was thinking about in school, while eating, drinking or even just doing nothing was martial arts. I kept a log of every movement, read a lot of books and to the displeasure of my friends it also became the only topic I was capable of talking about. Didnt go out partying or socialising. the only exception for hanging out where the guys and girls I was training with and even then the topic of the discussion was fighting and what each of us had learned by reading or training.

So it was no wonder to me that I started dreaming about it almost consciously and even had entire training sessions going on in my head or instructors teach me moves.
The weirdest dream I ever had was about an instructor teaching me an omoplata. I could see him doing everything from the side although I was obviously his partner.(I coudl even feel the pain in my shoulder!) Then I had the feeling of waking up, so I turned over (still in bed) took my Ipad and checked the time.

The numbers on the top of the screen where going crazy and it was only then that I actually realized that I was still dreaming! I woke up pretty confused and had to recheck the time on my Ipad that was lying exactly on the same spot next to my head as in my dream. This time the numbers gave me the exact time and I later found out that using watches and electric devices was used by lucid dreamers as a reality check to find out wether they were dreaming or not.

I was pretty amazed by this experience and had several other lucid dreams-though none of them were as clear and as confusing as this one.
Great thread by the way.

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I use to try to do it consistently, but usually I can’t really do much. Just realize I’m in a dream, and kind of look around for a bit, then i wake up violently. Once when I was younger, like 9, I had a lucid dream and managed to summon a sword in my hand, but I feel I’m too disconnected from my imagination at this age to do something like that again.

I stopped ‘trying’ to lucid dream because the quality of sleep I’d get every night was shitty, and I’d wake-up sweaty, breathing hard, unsure what was going on. Kind of got scared I’d get sleep paralysis and just stopped. Plus, my dreams are always strange, kind of in the creepy fashion of the newest Alice in Wonderland film; just everything is unsettling and uncomfortable. So experiencing them isn’t all that great lol

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True

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To wake up from sleep paralysis try hyperventalating. This works for me everytime. Granted sometimes it can take more effort(might have to try several times) than other times and you wake up with a heart rate 120+ so it’s not fun at all. Then again neither is being stuck like that. Holding your breath as long as you can might also work, can’t remember if I’ve tried that. Just thought of it now. Hmm???

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I lucid dream occasionally because I worked on it a few years ago. Kept a dream journal for a few weeks and thought about recognising the difference between reality and the dream would. Remembering your dreams is important because you begin to realise patterns in your dreams that let you become lucid.

It’s very cool and I enjoy exploring the limits of the lucid dream, particularly my mind’s ability (and sometimes inability) to rapidly process scenery as I’m flying along. People here might be familiar with the grey fog that obscures areas that your brain hasn’t processed. Also the grey fog tends to swallow you when you do something that might awaken you and takes you out from the lucid dream. The best feeling is reaching the point of clarity as if your eyes lock in and you see everything in HD. It’s also interesting interacting with people, realising they are manifestations of your sub concious.

Top tip: If you go lucid, don’t have sex in your dream. You will wake up upon sexual stimulation.

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[quote]Waylander wrote:
I lucid dream occasionally because I worked on it a few years ago. Kept a dream journal for a few weeks and thought about recognising the difference between reality and the dream would. Remembering your dreams is important because you begin to realise patterns in your dreams that let you become lucid.

It’s very cool and I enjoy exploring the limits of the lucid dream, particularly my mind’s ability (and sometimes inability) to rapidly process scenery as I’m flying along. People here might be familiar with the grey fog that obscures areas that your brain hasn’t processed. Also the grey fog tends to swallow you when you do something that might awaken you and takes you out from the lucid dream. The best feeling is reaching the point of clarity as if your eyes lock in and you see everything in HD. It’s also interesting interacting with people, realising they are manifestations of your sub concious.

Top tip: If you go lucid, don’t have sex in your dream. You will wake up upon sexual stimulation.[/quote]

Excellent responses and anecdotes from everyone thanks.

When you become lucid is it in the first person or are you watching yourself do things, like an OOBE?

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the dream journal works great. I stopped doing it because I felt exhausted from having my mind active for what felt like 24/7. I hate remembering my dreams when they’re long and boring or have dumb nightmare/stress situations. It’s always great when I can fly or bang a supermodel lol. I still do lucid dream about twice a week though, always have.

Definitely avoid looking into a mirror in your dreams if you can.

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[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Definitely avoid looking into a mirror in your dreams if you can.[/quote]
Why?

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[quote]Waylander wrote:
I lucid dream occasionally because I worked on it a few years ago. Kept a dream journal for a few weeks and thought about recognising the difference between reality and the dream would. Remembering your dreams is important because you begin to realise patterns in your dreams that let you become lucid.

It’s very cool and I enjoy exploring the limits of the lucid dream, particularly my mind’s ability (and sometimes inability) to rapidly process scenery as I’m flying along. People here might be familiar with the grey fog that obscures areas that your brain hasn’t processed. Also the grey fog tends to swallow you when you do something that might awaken you and takes you out from the lucid dream. The best feeling is reaching the point of clarity as if your eyes lock in and you see everything in HD. It’s also interesting interacting with people, realising they are manifestations of your sub concious.

Top tip: If you go lucid, don’t have sex in your dream. You will wake up upon sexual stimulation.[/quote]

Yeah in a big wet mess

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Definitely avoid looking into a mirror in your dreams if you can.[/quote]
Why?[/quote]

For as much the same reasons as you shouldn’t during an acid trip. :slight_smile:

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[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Definitely avoid looking into a mirror in your dreams if you can.[/quote]
Why?[/quote]

For as much the same reasons as you shouldn’t during an acid trip. :slight_smile:
[/quote]
I can imagine why but I want some cohesive perspective. I’ve never tried acid lol.

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I’ve had a couple but they never lasted that long. There’s been a few threads on this now actually!

I do remember someone telling me at some point that a way to improve your chances for lucid dreaming is to pick a certain number of common objects; a car, a cat, etc and whenever you see one of your chosen objects say to yourself “I’m dreaming.” to create a reality anchor of sorts.

They suggested that if you did this often enough you would say this in your dreams whenever you come across any of these reality anchors thus stirring your conscious mind while in the dream.

A nice theory I guess. I was far too lazy to try it out consistently. And a bit fearful I might end up with some kind of bro-scienced psychosis where I couldn’t tell reality from a dream state lol (I smoked a lot at the time ^)

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[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Definitely avoid looking into a mirror in your dreams if you can.[/quote]

I laughed in real life.

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I can imagine why but I want some cohesive perspective.[/quote]

I’m interested in what you’re imagining. (totally serious)

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[quote]Cheeky_Kea wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Definitely avoid looking into a mirror in your dreams if you can.[/quote]
Why?[/quote]

For as much the same reasons as you shouldn’t during an acid trip. :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Never done acid, please explain