[quote]Drecappa wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, guys. I am going to try the chocolate milk mixed with whey. Does anyone know how the new Grow! Whey tastes? I’m almost out of my ON and I was thinking of switching if the taste is decent. [/quote]
Lactose is still a slow sugar, compared to dextrose. If you’re buying whey anyways, pick up some dextrose ($1/lb), mix those and forget about chocolate milk. It will slow things down.
It’s really that simple, just whey and dextrose.
Mix it so you’ve got 50g of dextrose to 25g of protein (usually the amount in one scoop of whey). There’s your post-workout drink. Problem solved.
[quote]superiorathlete wrote:
4est wrote:
The easiest PWO is lowfat chocolate milk. It works great. You do want to make sure its made with lowfat milk as the fat in whole milk will decrease the insulin spike.
Agree and I mix in some of Whey Isolate[/quote]
This is another recommendation I see often. A skim milk carb is lactose, hardly at the top of my list for eliciting a high insulin response. Also, 32/4 isn’t much above fructose on the GI/GL scale.
Come on “experts” please educate me. Am I placing too much value on the glycemic index? If so, what else is at work here to support these long held recommendations that grape juice and skim milk are the best carbs for the poor man’s PWO drink?
Not sure, but your local grocery store or Wal-Mart does. Pick up a 1 lb. bag of Smarties candies. They’re straight dextrose (albeit with artifical flavoring and coloring). 9 rolls = 54 grams of High-GI carbs. Add some fast acting whey and some BCAA’s. I usually just eat 'em fast, but suppose they could be crushed and mixed into a shake.
Don’t know that I’d advocate it as a replacement for Surge, but it works in a pinch (like when Surge is out of stock).
[quote]xenolith wrote:
This is another recommendation I see often. A skim milk carb is lactose, hardly at the top of my list for eliciting a high insulin response. Also, 32/4 isn’t much above fructose on the GI/GL scale.
Come on “experts” please educate me. Am I placing too much value on the glycemic index? If so, what else is at work here to support these long held recommendations that grape juice and skim milk are the best carbs for the poor man’s PWO drink?[/quote]
I’ve heard from quite a few [in my opinion trustworthy] sources that skim milk does something that puts your bodies insulin levels through the roof, despite only being lactose [actually I think I also saw it in one of T-Nations cool tips a while back]. I also believe that the glycemic index is considered outdated by many modern researches, who favour the insulin index, as it is a much more accurate way to measure the effects of food.
For post workout I chug water + 1 scoop gatorade + 1 scoop hydrolysed whey, because in Aus, Surge works out to $7.50 a serve, and when you consider someone with a reasonable degree of muscle has to take 2 serves…
Also, in a pinch, I’ve been known to have a lean steak on white bread for post workout.