Lost 41 Lbs in a week?!

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[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Regarding public ridicule, what is the consensus on the 150 lb. skinny-fat warcraft player that eats cheetos and mountain dew all day? I mean, a lot of “you’re a fatass” ridicule actually comes from people like this.

You know, it’s like the 2 pack a day smoker, or 5th of whiskey every night alcoholic making fun of the overweight diabetic. But people pick on fatties because they’re much easier and larger targets?

Just like to see some consistency once in a while.[/quote]

I remember seeing a documentary, maybe it was supersize me, I don’t remember, that made a very valid comparison.

If you are sitting at dinner with a big group of people and someone goes outside to smoke, it wouldn’t be weird for someone to confront them and ask them why they do something that is so bad for them. Why would you do that? Don’t you know it will kill you? You need to quit! Basically it is okay to humiliate smokers because it is bad to smoke, everyone knows that.

Along the same vein if a morbidly obese person was sitting right next to the smoker no one would say, why are you so fat? What is wrong with you don’t you know that is going to kill you? Get on a treadmill fatty!

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I saw one episode and I came to two conclusions. Jillian is a bitch (yes I’d hit it) and they must screen so many fat people to find a few who can take that grueling shit. How can the knees of those 400 pounders take all that abuse when they’ve been sedentary for so long?

Anyway you cut it, 41 pounds is amazing. If he lost 20 pounds of water, ten pounds of transitional food (imagine the abuse that guys toilet takes, no low flow potty is up to that job) and 5 pounds of muscle, that’s still six pounds of fat in one week. You would have to burn over 3000 excess calories a day just for the fat. That’s more than most people consume in a day.

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[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Regarding public ridicule, what is the consensus on the 150 lb. skinny-fat warcraft player that eats cheetos and mountain dew all day? I mean, a lot of “you’re a fatass” ridicule actually comes from people like this.

You know, it’s like the 2 pack a day smoker, or 5th of whiskey every night alcoholic making fun of the overweight diabetic. But people pick on fatties because they’re much easier and larger targets?

Just like to see some consistency once in a while.[/quote]

I remember seeing a documentary, maybe it was supersize me, I don’t remember, that made a very valid comparison.

If you are sitting at dinner with a big group of people and someone goes outside to smoke, it wouldn’t be weird for someone to confront them and ask them why they do something that is so bad for them. Why would you do that? Don’t you know it will kill you? You need to quit! Basically it is okay to humiliate smokers because it is bad to smoke, everyone knows that.

Along the same vein if a morbidly obese person was sitting right next to the smoker no one would say, why are you so fat? What is wrong with you don’t you know that is going to kill you? Get on a treadmill fatty![/quote]

What the hell are you talking about? Since when is it socially acceptable to openly berate smokers? Who exactly walks around trying to humiliate smokers?

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[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Regarding public ridicule, what is the consensus on the 150 lb. skinny-fat warcraft player that eats cheetos and mountain dew all day? I mean, a lot of “you’re a fatass” ridicule actually comes from people like this.

You know, it’s like the 2 pack a day smoker, or 5th of whiskey every night alcoholic making fun of the overweight diabetic. But people pick on fatties because they’re much easier and larger targets?

Just like to see some consistency once in a while.[/quote]

I remember seeing a documentary, maybe it was supersize me, I don’t remember, that made a very valid comparison.

If you are sitting at dinner with a big group of people and someone goes outside to smoke, it wouldn’t be weird for someone to confront them and ask them why they do something that is so bad for them. Why would you do that? Don’t you know it will kill you? You need to quit! Basically it is okay to humiliate smokers because it is bad to smoke, everyone knows that.

Along the same vein if a morbidly obese person was sitting right next to the smoker no one would say, why are you so fat? What is wrong with you don’t you know that is going to kill you? Get on a treadmill fatty![/quote]

I don’t understand the denial. I have seen a really fat person eat a whole bucket of chicken in front of us and yet claim the next day that they don’t eat that much.

You’re right, we live in a society where it is acceptable to say, “why would you want to be so muscular. Isn’t that unhealthy?” but somehow UNacceptable to say, “why would you want to be so fat”.

I guess they would start crying though to gain sympathy for why they finished off a whole german chocolate cake in one sitting.

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[quote]on edge wrote:
I saw one episode and I came to two conclusions. Jillian is a bitch (yes I’d hit it) and they must screen so many fat people to find a few who can take that grueling shit. How can the knees of those 400 pounders take all that abuse when they’ve been sedentary for so long?

Anyway you cut it, 41 pounds is amazing. If he lost 20 pounds of water, ten pounds of transitional food (imagine the abuse that guys toilet takes, no low flow potty is up to that job) and 5 pounds of muscle, that’s still six pounds of fat in one week. You would have to burn over 3000 excess calories a day just for the fat. That’s more than most people consume in a day.[/quote]

Losing weight when that heavy isn’t that “linear” and it doesn’t mean they literally worked off several thousand calories. They can drop huge amounts of weight very quickly just from water weight fluctuations and the shock of suddenly being active. Hell, the average 300lbs lineman can drop 15lbs in one game.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Regarding public ridicule, what is the consensus on the 150 lb. skinny-fat warcraft player that eats cheetos and mountain dew all day? I mean, a lot of “you’re a fatass” ridicule actually comes from people like this.

You know, it’s like the 2 pack a day smoker, or 5th of whiskey every night alcoholic making fun of the overweight diabetic. But people pick on fatties because they’re much easier and larger targets?

Just like to see some consistency once in a while.[/quote]

I remember seeing a documentary, maybe it was supersize me, I don’t remember, that made a very valid comparison.

If you are sitting at dinner with a big group of people and someone goes outside to smoke, it wouldn’t be weird for someone to confront them and ask them why they do something that is so bad for them. Why would you do that? Don’t you know it will kill you? You need to quit! Basically it is okay to humiliate smokers because it is bad to smoke, everyone knows that.

Along the same vein if a morbidly obese person was sitting right next to the smoker no one would say, why are you so fat? What is wrong with you don’t you know that is going to kill you? Get on a treadmill fatty![/quote]

What the hell are you talking about? Since when is it socially acceptable to openly berate smokers? Who exactly walks around trying to humiliate smokers?
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Just today when I was getting ready for the gym my sent me a text that was pissed off/ thought it was kind of funny that someone made a snarky comment about him smoking. That shit happens all of the time.

Its not that people get on message board to talk about how annoying smokers are, its just people make little comments on a daily basis to smokers. Do you live in America?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Regarding public ridicule, what is the consensus on the 150 lb. skinny-fat warcraft player that eats cheetos and mountain dew all day? I mean, a lot of “you’re a fatass” ridicule actually comes from people like this.

You know, it’s like the 2 pack a day smoker, or 5th of whiskey every night alcoholic making fun of the overweight diabetic. But people pick on fatties because they’re much easier and larger targets?

Just like to see some consistency once in a while.[/quote]

I remember seeing a documentary, maybe it was supersize me, I don’t remember, that made a very valid comparison.

If you are sitting at dinner with a big group of people and someone goes outside to smoke, it wouldn’t be weird for someone to confront them and ask them why they do something that is so bad for them. Why would you do that? Don’t you know it will kill you? You need to quit! Basically it is okay to humiliate smokers because it is bad to smoke, everyone knows that.

Along the same vein if a morbidly obese person was sitting right next to the smoker no one would say, why are you so fat? What is wrong with you don’t you know that is going to kill you? Get on a treadmill fatty![/quote]

I don’t understand the denial. I have seen a really fat person eat a whole bucket of chicken in front of us and yet claim the next day that they don’t eat that much.

You’re right, we live in a society where it is acceptable to say, “why would you want to be so muscular. Isn’t that unhealthy?” but somehow UNacceptable to say, “why would you want to be so fat”.

I guess they would start crying though to gain sympathy for why they finished off a whole german chocolate cake in one sitting.[/quote]

Just like how it is okay for a girl to look at a muscular guy and say “Eww he looks gross” but then when its a guy who is 450 pounds and actually does look gross, it is not so okay.

I do want to be clear that I am not defending fat people. I am simply pointing out that for some reason in our society they are untouchable, in that you can’t comment about them to their face in public. While it is just fine to say something to a smoker, or someone who is actually in good shape.

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[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Regarding public ridicule, what is the consensus on the 150 lb. skinny-fat warcraft player that eats cheetos and mountain dew all day? I mean, a lot of “you’re a fatass” ridicule actually comes from people like this.

You know, it’s like the 2 pack a day smoker, or 5th of whiskey every night alcoholic making fun of the overweight diabetic. But people pick on fatties because they’re much easier and larger targets?

Just like to see some consistency once in a while.[/quote]

I remember seeing a documentary, maybe it was supersize me, I don’t remember, that made a very valid comparison.

If you are sitting at dinner with a big group of people and someone goes outside to smoke, it wouldn’t be weird for someone to confront them and ask them why they do something that is so bad for them. Why would you do that? Don’t you know it will kill you? You need to quit! Basically it is okay to humiliate smokers because it is bad to smoke, everyone knows that.

Along the same vein if a morbidly obese person was sitting right next to the smoker no one would say, why are you so fat? What is wrong with you don’t you know that is going to kill you? Get on a treadmill fatty![/quote]

What the hell are you talking about? Since when is it socially acceptable to openly berate smokers? Who exactly walks around trying to humiliate smokers?
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Just today when I was getting ready for the gym my sent me a text that was pissed off/ thought it was kind of funny that someone made a snarky comment about him smoking. That shit happens all of the time.

Its not that people get on message board to talk about how annoying smokers are, its just people make little comments on a daily basis to smokers. Do you live in America?[/quote]

no in Toronto which is 2 hours away from the border. Smoking is pretty widespread, heck go to a club/bar/sit down restaurant you always see shit loads of smokers. Aside family I’ve never heard anyone have a “talk” with someone for smoking.

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[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Regarding public ridicule, what is the consensus on the 150 lb. skinny-fat warcraft player that eats cheetos and mountain dew all day? I mean, a lot of “you’re a fatass” ridicule actually comes from people like this.

You know, it’s like the 2 pack a day smoker, or 5th of whiskey every night alcoholic making fun of the overweight diabetic. But people pick on fatties because they’re much easier and larger targets?

Just like to see some consistency once in a while.[/quote]

I remember seeing a documentary, maybe it was supersize me, I don’t remember, that made a very valid comparison.

If you are sitting at dinner with a big group of people and someone goes outside to smoke, it wouldn’t be weird for someone to confront them and ask them why they do something that is so bad for them. Why would you do that? Don’t you know it will kill you? You need to quit! Basically it is okay to humiliate smokers because it is bad to smoke, everyone knows that.

Along the same vein if a morbidly obese person was sitting right next to the smoker no one would say, why are you so fat? What is wrong with you don’t you know that is going to kill you? Get on a treadmill fatty![/quote]

I don’t understand the denial. I have seen a really fat person eat a whole bucket of chicken in front of us and yet claim the next day that they don’t eat that much.

You’re right, we live in a society where it is acceptable to say, “why would you want to be so muscular. Isn’t that unhealthy?” but somehow UNacceptable to say, “why would you want to be so fat”.

I guess they would start crying though to gain sympathy for why they finished off a whole german chocolate cake in one sitting.[/quote]

Just like how it is okay for a girl to look at a muscular guy and say “Eww he looks gross” but then when its a guy who is 450 pounds and actually does look gross, it is not so okay.

I do want to be clear that I am not defending fat people. I am simply pointing out that for some reason in our society they are untouchable, in that you can’t comment about them to their face in public. While it is just fine to say something to a smoker, or someone who is actually in good shape.[/quote]

Thats because they may knock you on the head and then eat you.

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Also for people who watch Biggest Loser might like Freaky Eaters on TLC.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Regarding public ridicule, what is the consensus on the 150 lb. skinny-fat warcraft player that eats cheetos and mountain dew all day? I mean, a lot of “you’re a fatass” ridicule actually comes from people like this.

You know, it’s like the 2 pack a day smoker, or 5th of whiskey every night alcoholic making fun of the overweight diabetic. But people pick on fatties because they’re much easier and larger targets?

Just like to see some consistency once in a while.[/quote]

I remember seeing a documentary, maybe it was supersize me, I don’t remember, that made a very valid comparison.

If you are sitting at dinner with a big group of people and someone goes outside to smoke, it wouldn’t be weird for someone to confront them and ask them why they do something that is so bad for them. Why would you do that? Don’t you know it will kill you? You need to quit! Basically it is okay to humiliate smokers because it is bad to smoke, everyone knows that.

Along the same vein if a morbidly obese person was sitting right next to the smoker no one would say, why are you so fat? What is wrong with you don’t you know that is going to kill you? Get on a treadmill fatty![/quote]

I don’t understand the denial. I have seen a really fat person eat a whole bucket of chicken in front of us and yet claim the next day that they don’t eat that much.

You’re right, we live in a society where it is acceptable to say, “why would you want to be so muscular. Isn’t that unhealthy?” but somehow UNacceptable to say, “why would you want to be so fat”.

I guess they would start crying though to gain sympathy for why they finished off a whole german chocolate cake in one sitting.[/quote]

Just like how it is okay for a girl to look at a muscular guy and say “Eww he looks gross” but then when its a guy who is 450 pounds and actually does look gross, it is not so okay.

I do want to be clear that I am not defending fat people. I am simply pointing out that for some reason in our society they are untouchable, in that you can’t comment about them to their face in public. While it is just fine to say something to a smoker, or someone who is actually in good shape.[/quote]

Thats because they may knock you on the head and then eat you. [/quote]

I would be much more worried about Professor X doing that than a fatty, but it is a definite possibility with both.

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[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Regarding public ridicule, what is the consensus on the 150 lb. skinny-fat warcraft player that eats cheetos and mountain dew all day? I mean, a lot of “you’re a fatass” ridicule actually comes from people like this.

You know, it’s like the 2 pack a day smoker, or 5th of whiskey every night alcoholic making fun of the overweight diabetic. But people pick on fatties because they’re much easier and larger targets?

Just like to see some consistency once in a while.[/quote]

I remember seeing a documentary, maybe it was supersize me, I don’t remember, that made a very valid comparison.

If you are sitting at dinner with a big group of people and someone goes outside to smoke, it wouldn’t be weird for someone to confront them and ask them why they do something that is so bad for them. Why would you do that? Don’t you know it will kill you? You need to quit! Basically it is okay to humiliate smokers because it is bad to smoke, everyone knows that.

Along the same vein if a morbidly obese person was sitting right next to the smoker no one would say, why are you so fat? What is wrong with you don’t you know that is going to kill you? Get on a treadmill fatty![/quote]

I don’t understand the denial. I have seen a really fat person eat a whole bucket of chicken in front of us and yet claim the next day that they don’t eat that much.

You’re right, we live in a society where it is acceptable to say, “why would you want to be so muscular. Isn’t that unhealthy?” but somehow UNacceptable to say, “why would you want to be so fat”.

I guess they would start crying though to gain sympathy for why they finished off a whole german chocolate cake in one sitting.[/quote]

Just like how it is okay for a girl to look at a muscular guy and say “Eww he looks gross” but then when its a guy who is 450 pounds and actually does look gross, it is not so okay.

I do want to be clear that I am not defending fat people. I am simply pointing out that for some reason in our society they are untouchable, in that you can’t comment about them to their face in public. While it is just fine to say something to a smoker, or someone who is actually in good shape.[/quote]

Thats because they may knock you on the head and then eat you. [/quote]

I would be much more worried about Professor X doing that than a fatty, but it is a definite possibility with both.[/quote]

Honestly the problem is that society sees fatties as having a disease, it is genetics, innocent in their fatness. (I can say this cause I was one of them at 5’9" 305 lbs) You would not pick on someone with a mental retardation would you? That mentality is almost the way society in America looks at fatties.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]VikingsAD28 wrote:

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Regarding public ridicule, what is the consensus on the 150 lb. skinny-fat warcraft player that eats cheetos and mountain dew all day? I mean, a lot of “you’re a fatass” ridicule actually comes from people like this.

You know, it’s like the 2 pack a day smoker, or 5th of whiskey every night alcoholic making fun of the overweight diabetic. But people pick on fatties because they’re much easier and larger targets?

Just like to see some consistency once in a while.[/quote]

I remember seeing a documentary, maybe it was supersize me, I don’t remember, that made a very valid comparison.

If you are sitting at dinner with a big group of people and someone goes outside to smoke, it wouldn’t be weird for someone to confront them and ask them why they do something that is so bad for them. Why would you do that? Don’t you know it will kill you? You need to quit! Basically it is okay to humiliate smokers because it is bad to smoke, everyone knows that.

Along the same vein if a morbidly obese person was sitting right next to the smoker no one would say, why are you so fat? What is wrong with you don’t you know that is going to kill you? Get on a treadmill fatty![/quote]

I don’t understand the denial. I have seen a really fat person eat a whole bucket of chicken in front of us and yet claim the next day that they don’t eat that much.

You’re right, we live in a society where it is acceptable to say, “why would you want to be so muscular. Isn’t that unhealthy?” but somehow UNacceptable to say, “why would you want to be so fat”.

I guess they would start crying though to gain sympathy for why they finished off a whole german chocolate cake in one sitting.[/quote]

Just like how it is okay for a girl to look at a muscular guy and say “Eww he looks gross” but then when its a guy who is 450 pounds and actually does look gross, it is not so okay.

I do want to be clear that I am not defending fat people. I am simply pointing out that for some reason in our society they are untouchable, in that you can’t comment about them to their face in public. While it is just fine to say something to a smoker, or someone who is actually in good shape.[/quote]

Thats because they may knock you on the head and then eat you. [/quote]

I would be much more worried about Professor X doing that than a fatty, but it is a definite possibility with both.[/quote]

Honestly the problem is that society sees fatties as having a disease, it is genetics, innocent in their fatness. (I can say this cause I was one of them at 5’9" 305 lbs) You would not pick on someone with a mental retardation would you? That mentality is almost the way society in America looks at fatties. [/quote]

For people who are morbidly obese, I have a hard time believing it’s just bad eating habits. I mean this is an individual who has literally stretched out his stomach, and overfed himself massively for YEARS. That takes work and commitment lol

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I dont know if it has already been stated but the guy in question didnt lose 41 pounds in one week. (I just watched the show on DVR)

The original weight was from the first show when they had to compete to get into the house. The two people from each city moved into the Biggest Loser house two weeks later. They never said how long then they were in the house for before the first house weigh in where he was down 41lbs.

So it was at least 2 and a half weeks from the original weigh in to the show re weigh in… But yeah 41lbs in 2-3 weeks is a lot.

One guy on the show was 51% body fat… that is out of control!!

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ok for anyone else who watches this show… does it make you hungry every time?

Every time I see their flashbacks and they’re eating monster burger and prime rib sandwiches I always thing “oh man that looks so good” lol

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[quote]gregron wrote:
ok for anyone else who watches this show… does it make you hungry every time?

Every time I see their flashbacks and they’re eating monster burger and prime rib sandwiches I always thing “oh man that looks so good” lol[/quote]

I know man, I am still fairly new to this whole eating healthy all the time thing. Watching shows like that just makes me sad that I not an idiot who eats like that every day.

Yeah I would be fat, but food is just so delicious.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:
I saw one episode and I came to two conclusions. Jillian is a bitch (yes I’d hit it) and they must screen so many fat people to find a few who can take that grueling shit. How can the knees of those 400 pounders take all that abuse when they’ve been sedentary for so long?

Anyway you cut it, 41 pounds is amazing. If he lost 20 pounds of water, ten pounds of transitional food (imagine the abuse that guys toilet takes, no low flow potty is up to that job) and 5 pounds of muscle, that’s still six pounds of fat in one week. You would have to burn over 3000 excess calories a day just for the fat. That’s more than most people consume in a day.[/quote]

Losing weight when that heavy isn’t that “linear” and it doesn’t mean they literally worked off several thousand calories. They can drop huge amounts of weight very quickly just from water weight fluctuations and the shock of suddenly being active. Hell, the average 300lbs lineman can drop 15lbs in one game.[/quote]

Are you responding to someone else’s post? I didn’t say anything about it being linear, I threw out a hypothetical guess, qualified with “anyway you cut it”, of 20 lbs of water and ten pounds of crap. Yeah, I’m pretty sure he’s not going to repeat that.

Btw, I counseled weight loss for a couple of years. I know a typical weekly progression looks like 4, 2, 0, 2, +1, 2, 0, 3 etc. A person who consistently looses 1-2 pounds a week after the first 3 weeks is rare. I’m pretty sure In that controlled environment and with bigger people the losses will be bigger and more consistent but still non linear.

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[quote]gregron wrote:
I dont know if it has already been stated but the guy in question didnt lose 41 pounds in one week. (I just watched the show on DVR)

The original weight was from the first show when they had to compete to get into the house. The two people from each city moved into the Biggest Loser house two weeks later. They never said how long then they were in the house for before the first house weigh in where he was down 41lbs.

So it was at least 2 and a half weeks from the original weigh in to the show re weigh in… But yeah 41lbs in 2-3 weeks is a lot.
[/quote]

Ohhhh it’s suddenly a lot less amazing.

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
I dont know if it has already been stated but the guy in question didnt lose 41 pounds in one week. (I just watched the show on DVR)

The original weight was from the first show when they had to compete to get into the house. The two people from each city moved into the Biggest Loser house two weeks later. They never said how long then they were in the house for before the first house weigh in where he was down 41lbs.

So it was at least 2 and a half weeks from the original weigh in to the show re weigh in… But yeah 41lbs in 2-3 weeks is a lot.
[/quote]

Ohhhh it’s suddenly a lot less amazing.[/quote]

Its still pretty impressive. His percentage of weight loss was 10.25 or something… he lost 10% of his total body weight… that is amazing.

admittedly Im a big fan of the show. I DVR it (that way I can fast forward through alot of the crap) I think its pretty fascinating and they really do teach some good fundamentals. Yeah the plug Jenny-O turkey like a mofo and some other products but its basically about getting people to stop eating processed crap food and eat wholesome natural meals while exercising. Its pretty basic and trivial stuff for people like us who are healthy and active but its good info for the uneducated fat people out there.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
I dont know if it has already been stated but the guy in question didnt lose 41 pounds in one week. (I just watched the show on DVR)

The original weight was from the first show when they had to compete to get into the house. The two people from each city moved into the Biggest Loser house two weeks later. They never said how long then they were in the house for before the first house weigh in where he was down 41lbs.

So it was at least 2 and a half weeks from the original weigh in to the show re weigh in… But yeah 41lbs in 2-3 weeks is a lot.
[/quote]

Ohhhh it’s suddenly a lot less amazing.[/quote]

Its still pretty impressive. His percentage of weight loss was 10.25 or something… he lost 10% of his total body weight… that is amazing.

admittedly Im a big fan of the show. I DVR it (that way I can fast forward through alot of the crap) I think its pretty fascinating and they really do teach some good fundamentals. Yeah the plug Jenny-O turkey like a mofo and some other products but its basically about getting people to stop eating processed crap food and eat wholesome natural meals while exercising. Its pretty basic and trivial stuff for people like us who are healthy and active but its good info for the uneducated fat people out there.

[/quote]

Ahh young optimist. I bet you think you can win in fantasy football also. :slight_smile: