[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
sure women… the man brutally raped her (including anally), and then beat the shit out of her (no bruises or markings tho…weird), and she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL
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Could be a form of Stockholm syndrome.
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you should only talk about things of which you have some sort of understanding. [/quote]
Lol…
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
sure women… the man brutally raped her (including anally), and then beat the shit out of her (no bruises or markings tho…weird), and she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL
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Could be a form of Stockholm syndrome.
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Maybe, although Stockholm sydrome generally requires a longish period of captivity and a dependence on the attacker for the Syndrome to set it, so it’s highly doubtful
Given the complete lack of evidence of an attack, lack of any near-term corroboration of her tale (actually, any corroboration), her post “attack” friendliness fits more with his story that she is a jilted lover.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
oh look… mattress girl’s false rape story is falling apart.
why do women falsely accuse men of rape?[/quote]
Nothing in that story implies that it is “falling apart.” For the other two charges, it isn’t unheard of for people to become so fed up with the whole ordeal that they just drop the charges. [/quote]
it’s coming to light that she wrote him cutesy facebook messages like ‘I misssssss you’ etc and bullshit like that, trying to hang out with him AFTER the alleged ‘rape’. you can’t delete facebook chat messages
look at the feminists with their bullshit pseudo science trying to navigate this new information LOL ‘well umm, it’s not uncommon for women to behave irrationally after being raped… her behavior falls was completely normal for someone who had just been raped’
sure women… the man brutally raped her (including anally), and then beat the shit out of her (no bruises or markings tho…weird), and she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL
her story is not ‘falling apart’… it’s absolutely disintegrating[/quote]
Except it is fairly common for people in general to either block out, or to act “normal” in an effort to cope with trauma. Why don’t you accept the existence of a phenomenon which is supported with academic literature?
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
sure women… the man brutally raped her (including anally), and then beat the shit out of her (no bruises or markings tho…weird), and she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL
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Could be a form of Stockholm syndrome.
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Maybe, although Stockholm sydrome generally requires a longish period of captivity and a dependence on the attacker for the Syndrome to set it, so it’s highly doubtful
Given the complete lack of evidence of an attack, lack of any near-term corroboration of her tale (actually, any corroboration), her post “attack” friendliness fits more with his story that she is a jilted lover.[/quote]
While I don’t disagree with this, the assumption that nothing happened simply because the chat messages seem to indicate otherwise is the same mindset that allow many rapists to get away without consequence.
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
Except it is fairly common for people in general to either block out, or to act “normal” in an effort to cope with trauma. Why don’t you accept the existence of a phenomenon which is supported with academic literature?
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Act normal, as in “go about their day”.
Reaching out to their alleged attacker and suggesting they hang out is far beyond that.
edited for spelling
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
sure women… the man brutally raped her (including anally), and then beat the shit out of her (no bruises or markings tho…weird), and she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL
[/quote]
Could be a form of Stockholm syndrome.
[/quote]
Maybe, although Stockholm sydrome generally requires a longish period of captivity and a dependence on the attacker for the Syndrome to set it, so it’s highly doubtful
Given the complete lack of evidence of an attack, lack of any near-term corroboration of her tale (actually, any corroboration), her post “attack” friendliness fits more with his story that she is a jilted lover.[/quote]
While I don’t disagree with this, the assumption that nothing happened simply because the chat messages seem to indicate otherwise is the same mindset that allow many rapists to get away without consequence.[/quote]
“Same mindset that allow rapists to get away without consequence”
What mindset? The “innocent until proven guilty” mindset?
I guess we need to bring back stoning and maybe torture him to see if he will confess. Perhaps we could weight him down and throw him in water and see if he drowns. If he dies; he’s innocent.
Seriously, stop the babbling they teach you in Tolerance Camp.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
sure women… the man brutally raped her (including anally), and then beat the shit out of her (no bruises or markings tho…weird), and she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL
[/quote]
Could be a form of Stockholm syndrome.
[/quote]
Maybe, although Stockholm sydrome generally requires a longish period of captivity and a dependence on the attacker for the Syndrome to set it, so it’s highly doubtful
Given the complete lack of evidence of an attack, lack of any near-term corroboration of her tale (actually, any corroboration), her post “attack” friendliness fits more with his story that she is a jilted lover.[/quote]
I’m not necessarily saying it’s Stockholm syndrome per se, but I couldn’t find and am unaware of any other term that fit what I was trying to express. The point I was trying to make, in general, is that there is a psychological element to rape that we barely understand and it’s entirely possible for a victim to act compassionate towards their attacker in a seemingly insane way. For Walkaway to just dismiss her claim (which may or may not be true) because, “she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL,” is a bit premature, at best, in my opinion.
As far as this particular case goes, it’s entirely possible she’s making it up. I was certainly not there and I haven’t seen the evidence.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
sure women… the man brutally raped her (including anally), and then beat the shit out of her (no bruises or markings tho…weird), and she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL
[/quote]
Could be a form of Stockholm syndrome.
[/quote]
Maybe, although Stockholm sydrome generally requires a longish period of captivity and a dependence on the attacker for the Syndrome to set it, so it’s highly doubtful
Given the complete lack of evidence of an attack, lack of any near-term corroboration of her tale (actually, any corroboration), her post “attack” friendliness fits more with his story that she is a jilted lover.[/quote]
While I don’t disagree with this, the assumption that nothing happened simply because the chat messages seem to indicate otherwise is the same mindset that allow many rapists to get away without consequence.[/quote]
“Same mindset that allow rapists to get away without consequence”
What mindset? The “innocent until proven guilty” mindset?
I guess we need to bring back stoning and maybe torture him to see if he will confess. Perhaps we could weight him down and throw him in water and see if he drowns. If he dies; he’s innocent.
Seriously, stop the babbling they teach you in Tolerance Camp.[/quote]
No, the mindset that a person must act a certain way to be truly traumatized. Just as people deal with grief in many ways, people deal with trauma in many ways as well. One of those ways is trying to pretend like nothing happened.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
Except it is fairly common for people in general to either block out, or to act “normal” in an effort to cope with trauma. Why don’t you accept the existence of a phenomenon which is supported with academic literature?
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Act normal, as in “go about their day”.
Reaching out to their alleged attacker and suggesting they hang out is far beyond that.
edited for spelling
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Maybe. Then you also get stories about women who feel that they are the ones to blame so they don’t blame the guy, and treat him normally. This could also explain why she didn’t come forward to begin with.
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
oh look… mattress girl’s false rape story is falling apart.
why do women falsely accuse men of rape?[/quote]
Nothing in that story implies that it is “falling apart.” For the other two charges, it isn’t unheard of for people to become so fed up with the whole ordeal that they just drop the charges. [/quote]
it’s coming to light that she wrote him cutesy facebook messages like ‘I misssssss you’ etc and bullshit like that, trying to hang out with him AFTER the alleged ‘rape’. you can’t delete facebook chat messages
look at the feminists with their bullshit pseudo science trying to navigate this new information LOL ‘well umm, it’s not uncommon for women to behave irrationally after being raped… her behavior falls was completely normal for someone who had just been raped’
sure women… the man brutally raped her (including anally), and then beat the shit out of her (no bruises or markings tho…weird), and she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL
her story is not ‘falling apart’… it’s absolutely disintegrating[/quote]
Except it is fairly common for people in general to either block out, or to act “normal” in an effort to cope with trauma. Why don’t you accept the existence of a phenomenon which is supported with academic literature?
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please take your bullshit elsewhere…
I can understand suppressing the memories and going to class, going grocery shopping, etc… doing normal shit like that. behavior like this is what the academic studies support.
but trying to hang out with the guy who literally just raped you in the ass? that’s complete bullshit lol
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
sure women… the man brutally raped her (including anally), and then beat the shit out of her (no bruises or markings tho…weird), and she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL
[/quote]
Could be a form of Stockholm syndrome.
[/quote]
Maybe, although Stockholm sydrome generally requires a longish period of captivity and a dependence on the attacker for the Syndrome to set it, so it’s highly doubtful
Given the complete lack of evidence of an attack, lack of any near-term corroboration of her tale (actually, any corroboration), her post “attack” friendliness fits more with his story that she is a jilted lover.[/quote]
I’m not necessarily saying it’s Stockholm syndrome per se, but I couldn’t find and am unaware of any other term that fit what I was trying to express. The point I was trying to make, in general, is that there is a psychological element to rape that we barely understand and it’s entirely possible for a victim to act compassionate towards their attacker in a seemingly insane way. For Walkaway to just dismiss her claim (which may or may not be true) because, “she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL,” is a bit premature, at best, in my opinion.
As far as this particular case goes, it’s entirely possible she’s making it up. I was certainly not there and I haven’t seen the evidence. [/quote]
This is the exact point I’m trying to get across. The immediate dismissal of the purported victim’s story because her behavior doesn’t fit the perceived (but not actual) norm.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
As far as this particular case goes, it’s entirely possible she’s making it up. I was certainly not there and I haven’t seen the evidence. [/quote]
that’s exactly the point… there is NO evidence so support her accusation… she was ‘beaten’, but had no bruises, she was ‘forcefully anally raped’, but had no trauma to that particular area. then she writes him shortly after to tell him that she misses him?
now, it could have been the most gentle and well-lubed rape in recorded history… or she could be completely making the whole thing up, which, in the false rape accusation pandemic which now characterizes western societies, wouldn’t be too hard to believe.
it comes as no surprise that the feminists are screeching like banshees now that her accusation has proven to be false like they did with the University of Virginia false rape accusation, but I would expect men to be a bit more sensible…a bit more reasonable.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m not necessarily saying it’s Stockholm syndrome per se, but I couldn’t find and am unaware of any other term that fit what I was trying to express. The point I was trying to make, in general, is that there is a psychological element to rape that we barely understand and it’s entirely possible for a victim to act compassionate towards their attacker in a seemingly insane way. For Walkaway to just dismiss her claim (which may or may not be true) because, “she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL,” is a bit premature, at best, in my opinion.
As far as this particular case goes, it’s entirely possible she’s making it up. I was certainly not there and I haven’t seen the evidence. [/quote]
I’m not sure of the term, and I’m not sure it applies in the case of rape, or “rape”, based on how the term is defined, but are you basically referring to the same phenomena as that of domestic violence victims, where they keep coming back to their abuser (and not out of fear)?
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
please take your bullshit elsewhere…
I can understand suppressing the memories and going to class, going grocery shopping, etc… doing normal shit like that. behavior like this is what the academic studies support.
but trying to hang out with the guy who literally just raped you in the ass? that’s complete bullshit lol[/quote]
How many times have you been raped Walkway?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
please take your bullshit elsewhere…
I can understand suppressing the memories and going to class, going grocery shopping, etc… doing normal shit like that. behavior like this is what the academic studies support.
but trying to hang out with the guy who literally just raped you in the ass? that’s complete bullshit lol[/quote]
How many times have you been raped Walkway? [/quote]
not enough times apparently.
I know for a fact that I wouldn’t be hitting a friend up who just raped me in the ass tho.
[quote]nkklllll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
sure women… the man brutally raped her (including anally), and then beat the shit out of her (no bruises or markings tho…weird), and she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL
[/quote]
Could be a form of Stockholm syndrome.
[/quote]
Maybe, although Stockholm sydrome generally requires a longish period of captivity and a dependence on the attacker for the Syndrome to set it, so it’s highly doubtful
Given the complete lack of evidence of an attack, lack of any near-term corroboration of her tale (actually, any corroboration), her post “attack” friendliness fits more with his story that she is a jilted lover.[/quote]
I’m not necessarily saying it’s Stockholm syndrome per se, but I couldn’t find and am unaware of any other term that fit what I was trying to express. The point I was trying to make, in general, is that there is a psychological element to rape that we barely understand and it’s entirely possible for a victim to act compassionate towards their attacker in a seemingly insane way. For Walkaway to just dismiss her claim (which may or may not be true) because, “she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL,” is a bit premature, at best, in my opinion.
As far as this particular case goes, it’s entirely possible she’s making it up. I was certainly not there and I haven’t seen the evidence. [/quote]
This is the exact point I’m trying to get across. The immediate dismissal of the purported victim’s story because her behavior doesn’t fit the perceived (but not actual) norm.[/quote]
What “immediate dismissal.”? People took her story at face value, an investigation done, and there is nothing to support her story except her rather shaky word.
In contrast, the evidence supports the lack of a forced physical encounter, her story had multiple contradictions in it, and (to top it off), she was seeking further romantic or friendly interaction with the accused.
The fact that a fake like this is held up as a feminist icon, instead of for ridicule, is absurd.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
As far as this particular case goes, it’s entirely possible she’s making it up. I was certainly not there and I haven’t seen the evidence. [/quote]
that’s exactly the point… there is NO evidence so support her accusation… she was ‘beaten’, but had no bruises, she was ‘forcefully anally raped’, but had no trauma to that particular area. then she writes him shortly after to tell him that she misses him? [/quote]
There’s no evidence that you’ve seen. Life isn’t a CSI episode.
Pandemic… your tin foil bill must be through the roof.
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it comes as no surprise that the feminists are screeching like banshees now that her accusation has proven to be false like they did with the University of Virginia false rape accusation, but I would expect men to be a bit more sensible…a bit more reasonable. [/quote]
That’s fine and dandy. I couldn’t careless what some loud mouth harpies have to say.
I don’t believe it’s sensible to dismiss a serious claim just because the person making the claim acts in a way that seems strange to me especially when I’ve not experience an event even remotely as traumatic as she supposedly did.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
please take your bullshit elsewhere…
I can understand suppressing the memories and going to class, going grocery shopping, etc… doing normal shit like that. behavior like this is what the academic studies support.
but trying to hang out with the guy who literally just raped you in the ass? that’s complete bullshit lol[/quote]
How many times have you been raped Walkway? [/quote]
not enough times apparently.
I know for a fact that I wouldn’t be hitting a friend up who just raped me in the ass tho.[/quote]
As is never I’m assuming.
You actually don’t know this “for a fact” and even if it were true how you react has no bearing on how anyone else would react.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m not necessarily saying it’s Stockholm syndrome per se, but I couldn’t find and am unaware of any other term that fit what I was trying to express. The point I was trying to make, in general, is that there is a psychological element to rape that we barely understand and it’s entirely possible for a victim to act compassionate towards their attacker in a seemingly insane way. For Walkaway to just dismiss her claim (which may or may not be true) because, “she’s trying to hang out with him shortly afterward LOL,” is a bit premature, at best, in my opinion.
As far as this particular case goes, it’s entirely possible she’s making it up. I was certainly not there and I haven’t seen the evidence. [/quote]
I’m not sure of the term, and I’m not sure it applies in the case of rape, or “rape”, based on how the term is defined, but are you basically referring to the same phenomena as that of domestic violence victims, where they keep coming back to their abuser (and not out of fear)?[/quote]
Basically.
Instinctively I believe most people think something variation of, “If someone abused me I’d fuck them up, destroy their life, hate them forever, etc…” The reality of course is that people don’t always react this way and it’s almost impossible to know how you’d react in a similar situation.
The difference between a person like Walkway and a person like myself is that I understand everyone reacts to trauma in their own way and I’m not so closed minded as to assume they’re lying or guilty just because how they react isn’t in line with my preconceived bias.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
The difference between a person like Walkway and a person like myself is that I understand everyone reacts to trauma in their own way and I’m not so closed minded as to assume they’re lying or guilty just because how they react isn’t in line with my preconceived bias.
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you have to admit… talking all cutesy to a guy who allegedly anally raped you and then beat the shit out of you falls SO far outside of the range of normal (even abnormal) behavior… that it’s cause for some (very) serious skepticism. Why get vindictive so long after the fact when nothing can be proven? did the trauma (or, according to you, “Stockholm syndrome”) suddenly wear off, and she wanted revenge?
then, you have the complete lack of evidence… the contradictions… and her decision to wait until any and all ‘evidence’ of said ‘rape’ was gone before reporting it (which seems to be a rather common thing these days I.E. Bill Cosby).
idk… if I got anally raped (sorry to keep bringing it up, but its a critical detail), id at least go to the hospital… because like…it can cause very serious problems… which she didn’t have.
so weird.
but what it all boils down to, is (if im not mistaken), she is a gender studies major, and he should have known better.
I really can’t wrap my head around how women could be so venomous and toxic that they could be fine with having a man thrown in prison for 10+ years for a crime he didn’t commit (where he’d likely be raped…for real, and possibly be murdered). 20 years for William Mcaffery…and the bitch only got like 2 after she admitted to perjury LOL.
I guess they say ‘hell hath no fury’
