We always hear about guys who do baby cycles and call them cruises or trt
Maybe they cruise at 250-300 or even 500 test
Maybe they use trt test, but like to add deca or EQ for additional benefits and a little more anabolism or they add primo / mast to avoid needing an ai on their cruise
Has anyone ACTUALLY done that sort of prolonged cycle and, if so, what were your doses, compounds, length, benefits, sides, etc?
Raises handā¦
I run 200 test and 100 mast year round. I also run 2 iu/day of HGH. Blasts are 25 days of Tbol every 2 or 3 months. I used to blast with Anavar but it gave me really bad muscle aches.
Benefits are that I feel great (at 56 years old), running about 14% bodyfat. Sides are higher cholesterol and RBC counts but they are manageable with blood donations and red rice yeast.
Interesting, thank you.
Can I ask what dose you use for the tbol blasts?
Do you feel like itās a blast after being on 300 mgs long term or is it just a little added boost?
Also, what is the dosing protocol you use fir the red yeast rice?
50 mg/day
Its where I feel best at. I used to pin twice weekly but now Iām pinning once a week. More convenience, same results
I take 1200 mg daily
Thanks, Hammer, that was very useful and appreciated!
I ran 300-400 test a week for over a year. Occasionally, I would blast by either increasing T to 500/wk or adding in NPP, trying it at all different doses from 100wk-400wk. I even ran a 300/300 test/NPP cycle for like 16 weeks or so and logged it on here.
Positives: insane libido, very high confidence, feeling of invincibility, constant, steady strength gains. Not much size because I donāt train for hypertrophy, but steady strength increases that were impossible natural. Any time I want to get stronger, itās as simple as just eating a little bit more.
Negatives:
NPP blasts caused headaches, moodiness, edema, and blood pressure crept into dangerous territory a couple times. Iāve found daily baby aspirin and 2-300mg P5P help tremendously with those.
High dose Test blasts (500+) just always make me feel like shit. I have not been able to figure out a way to make it work for me.
None of the above has had any huge impact on my labs. HDL dropped a few points, hematocrit crept up occasionally and I just donated some blood. But zero major issues.
Thanks Hulk, I appreciate the honesty and the time you took to give a detailed answer
Can I ask if the blasts were as extreme as when cruising on lower dosed test? Iām just asking because 500mg blasts arenāt much more than 300mg cruises so I wonder if itās the same as going from a 150-200mg cruise to a 500mg blast
Not even close to the same. Hereās how each dose Iāve tried makes me, personally, feel. Hopefully others will chime in to give you more data points.
100wk - I feel nothing, almost like before TRT, when I was hypogonad.
150wk - I feel good. Mood, energy, libido are all like a 6-7 on a scale of 10. Gym performance is unremarkable. No gains, no losses, just meh.
200wk - mood and libido are good, energy takes a small hit. Workouts are better. More pump, small gains if Iām eating enough.
300wk- mood, energy, libido, and gym performance are all like an 8/10. This is my favorite dose.
350-385wk - mood, energy, and libido suffer. Gym performance is awesome if Iām eating enough. This is my favorite range for āādem gainz broā 
but I donāt feel all that great the other 22 hours a day.
500+ wk - Iām tired all the time no matter how much I sleep. I get blurry vision, chest pain, BPH, and weak erections. Adding in an AI only makes things worse.
So the point is, if youāre going to perma-blast low, youāll have to find the Test dose that is optimal for you, the āpoint of diminishing returns.ā Then, over time, you can run different short trials of sprinkling in maybe a little Mast, a little NPP, a little Tren, a little Primo, what have you.
Hope this helps
Helps a lot, Hulk, thanks!
And I would just add to all the aboveā¦
If you are going to permablast and you care about your health, make sure you are getting labs done regularly. Gotta make sure you arenāt doing any serious harm.