LOL Border Fence LOL

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
You put the military down there and you will see a huge decrease. Illegal aliens and cartels are much more concerned with soldiers than border patrol. Then, along with what UL mentioned, you have serious internal enforcement. E-Verify, no housing, no schooling, no jobs, no citizenship (which they are now trying to change), you give them literally no reason to come here. That is how you do it. [/quote]

lol, I wish this was 50-60 years ago and we could have the immigrants come over and harvest our crops, we could give them a bundle of money, and they would go back to Mexico.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
You need to put the Berlin fucking Wall down there, that’s why people hated it, because it worked. [/quote]

All we need to do is start shooting at these people who try to cross[/quote]

Some Border Patrol agent shot and killed a 17 yr old kid who was throwing rocks at the Border Patrol who were arresting drug smugglers at that moment. The FBI is investigating but looks like it will rule that the Border Agent was defending himself. Love it. [/quote]

and theres another epic douche on the other side lovin it when border patrol agents get shot.

the idea that fence could solve this issue even remotely, shows how short sided and stupid one is.

not even the might of the soviet military and secret police could stop poor germans from crossing.

border defense is the most expensive entitlement program of all. does nothing, bunch of people make a lot of money doing little. do you think they really thought parallel bars and think sheet metal would be effective fences? of course not, they were simply ensuring a new contract when the next republican admin comes in. or congress.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

The best way is to end the welfare state. Then anyone that wants to come across and work is welcome but no freebies.[/quote]

This is the answer, right here.

[/quote]

That is what they have in Mexico , why not just go home ? [/quote]

You mean they have a welfare state in Mexico.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
You put the military down there and you will see a huge decrease. Illegal aliens and cartels are much more concerned with soldiers than border patrol. Then, along with what UL mentioned, you have serious internal enforcement. E-Verify, no housing, no schooling, no jobs, no citizenship (which they are now trying to change), you give them literally no reason to come here. That is how you do it. [/quote]

lol, I wish this was 50-60 years ago and we could have the immigrants come over and harvest our crops, we could give them a bundle of money, and they would go back to Mexico.[/quote]

Bracero Program.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

The best way is to end the welfare state. Then anyone that wants to come across and work is welcome but no freebies.[/quote]

This is the answer, right here.

[/quote]

That is what they have in Mexico , why not just go home ? [/quote]

You mean they have a welfare state in Mexico.[/quote]

No

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

The best way is to end the welfare state. Then anyone that wants to come across and work is welcome but no freebies.[/quote]

This is the answer, right here.

[/quote]

That is what they have in Mexico , why not just go home ? [/quote]

You mean they have a welfare state in Mexico.[/quote]

No[/quote]

Oh…because I swore stuff like National Healthcare was the signs of a welfare state.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

The best way is to end the welfare state. Then anyone that wants to come across and work is welcome but no freebies.[/quote]

This is the answer, right here.

[/quote]

That is what they have in Mexico , why not just go home ? [/quote]

You mean they have a welfare state in Mexico.[/quote]

No[/quote]

Oh…because I swore stuff like National Healthcare was the signs of a welfare state.[/quote]

It’s done wonders for Europe.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

The best way is to end the welfare state. Then anyone that wants to come across and work is welcome but no freebies.[/quote]

This is the answer, right here.

[/quote]

That is what they have in Mexico , why not just go home ? [/quote]

You mean they have a welfare state in Mexico.[/quote]

No[/quote]

Oh…because I swore stuff like National Healthcare was the signs of a welfare state.[/quote]

I am sorry I and wikipedia disagree with you

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:
Or…

We could just open the damn border and let an army of the hardest-working, most thrifty, best money saving, family oriented motherfuckers I’ve ever had the privilege of knowing come over and help us resurrect this shit economy. [/quote]

The same way these mighty wisemen did with their own country? You really expect illegal aliens to be the answer to this shit economy? People who make less than minimum wage, drown our schools, prisons, and emergency rooms, and send money back to their respective countries, are the answer?

Fucking Christ man. [/quote]

They wouldn’t be illegal, genius.

They wouldn’t make less than minimum wage. They wouldn’t drown our schools - they would pay taxes to support them like everyone else. They wouldn’t have the same motivation to send money back to Mexico, because they wouldn’t have the same degree of separation from their families… they would have a motivation to set roots.

I’ve worked with and for a number of Mexicans (somewhere in the hundreds), and I can say from that experience and the experience of every person I have ever met who has worked with Mexicans, that their culture is steeped in the very values that our economy needs right now - Stoicism, hard work, persistence, thriftiness, saving…

Also, the history of Mexico and the economic disparity therein is far more complicated than to be chalked up to a collective inadequacy, as your first sentence implied.

Of course… we could just go back to the retarded-ass dialogue that we’ve all heard a million times:
Republicans are xenophobic and Democrats want to pay illegal aliens to do nothing.

Think shit through a little bit…

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

The best way is to end the welfare state. Then anyone that wants to come across and work is welcome but no freebies.[/quote]

This is the answer, right here.

[/quote]

That is what they have in Mexico , why not just go home ? [/quote]

You mean they have a welfare state in Mexico.[/quote]

No[/quote]

Oh…because I swore stuff like National Healthcare was the signs of a welfare state.[/quote]

It’s done wonders for Europe.
[/quote]

Cereal?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

The best way is to end the welfare state. Then anyone that wants to come across and work is welcome but no freebies.[/quote]

This is the answer, right here.

[/quote]

That is what they have in Mexico , why not just go home ? [/quote]

You mean they have a welfare state in Mexico.[/quote]

No[/quote]

Oh…because I swore stuff like National Healthcare was the signs of a welfare state.[/quote]

I am sorry I and wikipedia disagree with you

[/quote]

Public health care delivery, on the other hand, is accomplished via an elaborate provisioning and delivery system put in place by the Mexican Federal Government.

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:
Or…

We could just open the damn border and let an army of the hardest-working, most thrifty, best money saving, family oriented motherfuckers I’ve ever had the privilege of knowing come over and help us resurrect this shit economy. [/quote]

The same way these mighty wisemen did with their own country? You really expect illegal aliens to be the answer to this shit economy? People who make less than minimum wage, drown our schools, prisons, and emergency rooms, and send money back to their respective countries, are the answer?

Fucking Christ man. [/quote]

They wouldn’t be illegal, genius.

They wouldn’t make less than minimum wage. They wouldn’t drown our schools - they would pay taxes to support them like everyone else. They wouldn’t have the same motivation to send money back to Mexico, because they wouldn’t have the same degree of separation from their families… they would have a motivation to set roots.

I’ve worked with and for a number of Mexicans (somewhere in the hundreds), and I can say from that experience and the experience of every person I have ever met who has worked with Mexicans, that their culture is steeped in the very values that our economy needs right now - Stoicism, hard work, persistence, thriftiness, saving…

Also, the history of Mexico and the economic disparity therein is far more complicated than to be chalked up to a collective inadequacy, as your first sentence implied.

Of course… we could just go back to the retarded-ass dialogue that we’ve all heard a million times:
Republicans are xenophobic and Democrats want to pay illegal aliens to do nothing.

Think shit through a little bit…[/quote]

I do not believe they would make more money if you took away minimum wage . IMO they would come until they diluted our wage to match theirs, Over all they would have LITTLE incentive to come to America because America would be Just like Mexico.

If you disagree , please state why America would be different than Mexico if we adopted their lack of social programs and their lack of working standards or their lack of required compensation ?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

If you disagree , please state why America would be different than Mexico if we adopted their lack of social programs and their lack of working standards or their lack of required compensation ?

[/quote]

Once upon a time, people used to BUST THEIR ASS and work 2 jobs in order to live, rather than looking to tax dollars and the easy way out. For Pete’s sake dude, where has our grit gone?

[quote]Rockscar wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

If you disagree , please state why America would be different than Mexico if we adopted their lack of social programs and their lack of working standards or their lack of required compensation ?

[/quote]

Once upon a time, people used to BUST THEIR ASS and work 2 jobs in order to live, rather than looking to tax dollars and the easy way out. For Pete’s sake dude, where has our grit gone?[/quote]

You did not answer the question , at least I did not understand How America would be different from Mexico if we mimicked their country ?

I personally know several people working 2 jobs , I do’nt get your point

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:
Or…

We could just open the damn border and let an army of the hardest-working, most thrifty, best money saving, family oriented motherfuckers I’ve ever had the privilege of knowing come over and help us resurrect this shit economy. [/quote]

The same way these mighty wisemen did with their own country? You really expect illegal aliens to be the answer to this shit economy? People who make less than minimum wage, drown our schools, prisons, and emergency rooms, and send money back to their respective countries, are the answer?

Fucking Christ man. [/quote]

They wouldn’t be illegal, genius.

They wouldn’t make less than minimum wage. They wouldn’t drown our schools - they would pay taxes to support them like everyone else. They wouldn’t have the same motivation to send money back to Mexico, because they wouldn’t have the same degree of separation from their families… they would have a motivation to set roots.

I’ve worked with and for a number of Mexicans (somewhere in the hundreds), and I can say from that experience and the experience of every person I have ever met who has worked with Mexicans, that their culture is steeped in the very values that our economy needs right now - Stoicism, hard work, persistence, thriftiness, saving…

Also, the history of Mexico and the economic disparity therein is far more complicated than to be chalked up to a collective inadequacy, as your first sentence implied.

Of course… we could just go back to the retarded-ass dialogue that we’ve all heard a million times:
Republicans are xenophobic and Democrats want to pay illegal aliens to do nothing.

Think shit through a little bit…[/quote]

Come to California, you will see why every single aspect you mention is pure FAIL.

You have MANY people here of Latino descent that are loyal to their native country, not the US. Many of these people do not assimilate for shit, almost half of the kids in schools do not even speak English. People say they come here to work, but they don’t. They breed, get sick, and get arrested. You are also adding to an already huge unemployment pool we have in the country. Think about it, the whole point they get low-balled is because they are illegal. Otherwise, labor laws would not allow such low wages. Do you know how many people in agriculture and construction I know that are suffering because of illegal aliens? And if you legalize them, you low ball THEM, the newly legalized aliens.

I don’t just think shit through, I live it brah…

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:
Or…

We could just open the damn border and let an army of the hardest-working, most thrifty, best money saving, family oriented motherfuckers I’ve ever had the privilege of knowing come over and help us resurrect this shit economy. [/quote]

The same way these mighty wisemen did with their own country? You really expect illegal aliens to be the answer to this shit economy? People who make less than minimum wage, drown our schools, prisons, and emergency rooms, and send money back to their respective countries, are the answer?

Fucking Christ man. [/quote]

They wouldn’t be illegal, genius.

They wouldn’t make less than minimum wage. They wouldn’t drown our schools - they would pay taxes to support them like everyone else. They wouldn’t have the same motivation to send money back to Mexico, because they wouldn’t have the same degree of separation from their families… they would have a motivation to set roots.

I’ve worked with and for a number of Mexicans (somewhere in the hundreds), and I can say from that experience and the experience of every person I have ever met who has worked with Mexicans, that their culture is steeped in the very values that our economy needs right now - Stoicism, hard work, persistence, thriftiness, saving…

Also, the history of Mexico and the economic disparity therein is far more complicated than to be chalked up to a collective inadequacy, as your first sentence implied.

Of course… we could just go back to the retarded-ass dialogue that we’ve all heard a million times:
Republicans are xenophobic and Democrats want to pay illegal aliens to do nothing.

Think shit through a little bit…[/quote]

Come to California, you will see why every single aspect you mention is pure FAIL.

You have MANY people here of Latino descent that are loyal to their native country, not the US. Many of these people do not assimilate for shit, almost half of the kids in schools do not even speak English. People say they come here to work, but they don’t. They breed, get sick, and get arrested. You are also adding to an already huge unemployment pool we have in the country. Think about it, the whole point they get low-balled is because they are illegal. Otherwise, labor laws would not allow such low wages. Do you know how many people in agriculture and construction I know that are suffering because of illegal aliens? And if you legalize them, you low ball THEM, the newly legalized aliens.

I don’t just think shit through, I live it brah…[/quote]

Arizona is the same

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:
Or…

We could just open the damn border and let an army of the hardest-working, most thrifty, best money saving, family oriented motherfuckers I’ve ever had the privilege of knowing come over and help us resurrect this shit economy. [/quote]

The same way these mighty wisemen did with their own country? You really expect illegal aliens to be the answer to this shit economy? People who make less than minimum wage, drown our schools, prisons, and emergency rooms, and send money back to their respective countries, are the answer?

Fucking Christ man. [/quote]

They wouldn’t be illegal, genius.

They wouldn’t make less than minimum wage. They wouldn’t drown our schools - they would pay taxes to support them like everyone else. They wouldn’t have the same motivation to send money back to Mexico, because they wouldn’t have the same degree of separation from their families… they would have a motivation to set roots.

I’ve worked with and for a number of Mexicans (somewhere in the hundreds), and I can say from that experience and the experience of every person I have ever met who has worked with Mexicans, that their culture is steeped in the very values that our economy needs right now - Stoicism, hard work, persistence, thriftiness, saving…

Also, the history of Mexico and the economic disparity therein is far more complicated than to be chalked up to a collective inadequacy, as your first sentence implied.

Of course… we could just go back to the retarded-ass dialogue that we’ve all heard a million times:
Republicans are xenophobic and Democrats want to pay illegal aliens to do nothing.

Think shit through a little bit…[/quote]

Come to California, you will see why every single aspect you mention is pure FAIL.

You have MANY people here of Latino descent that are loyal to their native country, not the US. Many of these people do not assimilate for shit, almost half of the kids in schools do not even speak English. People say they come here to work, but they don’t. They breed, get sick, and get arrested. You are also adding to an already huge unemployment pool we have in the country. Think about it, the whole point they get low-balled is because they are illegal. Otherwise, labor laws would not allow such low wages. Do you know how many people in agriculture and construction I know that are suffering because of illegal aliens? And if you legalize them, you low ball THEM, the newly legalized aliens.

I don’t just think shit through, I live it brah…[/quote]

Arizona is the same [/quote]

And people think we’re crazy.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Dustin wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

The best way is to end the welfare state. Then anyone that wants to come across and work is welcome but no freebies.[/quote]

This is the answer, right here.

[/quote]

That is what they have in Mexico , why not just go home ? [/quote]

You mean they have a welfare state in Mexico.[/quote]

No[/quote]

Oh…because I swore stuff like National Healthcare was the signs of a welfare state.[/quote]

I am sorry I and wikipedia disagree with you

[/quote]

Public health care delivery, on the other hand, is accomplished via an elaborate provisioning and delivery system put in place by the Mexican Federal Government.[/quote]

Health care in Mexico is provided via public institutions, private entities, or private physicians. Health care delivered through private health care organizations operates entirely on the free-market system, i.e., it is available to those who can afford it. This is also the case of health care obtained from private physicians at their private office or clinic. Public health care delivery,

So I guess border patrol is supposed to ID them then shoot them to ensure they are not under 18.

the fact this is an issue is a joke. There is a big giant fence, no trespassing: violates will be shot on sight.

Maybe this should be written in Spanish…