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He ended the remain in Mexico policy. That was pure politics.

Ins seems to understand this immigration thing more fully than you yankees defending Biden.

Biden’s messaging since that debate question from the Spanish channel moderator concerning Obama era deportation, have been come up to the US.

This is a hell of lot more than seasonal increase. It is unaccompanied minor madness, catch and release with zero paperwork, being called out by Mexico (even) over the influx, flying migrants to other parts of the US because Texas is busting at the seams.

Well, his name is ins.

I don’t think it’s a case of Biden saying come to America as much as it’s a belief that the US will be less hostile, more humane, with regard to immigrants because Biden’s rhetoric is not Trumpian.

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Of course it is. Forums are a form of social media always have been. This is a place where people share ideas and have conversations online. The exact same thing as you can do on Twitter. Why should T-Nation (or Twitter) not have any control over the content that is posted?

If you want to control them buy them out and do what you want.

I am from Europe and I know a thing or two about imigration. Bidens messaging has been equaly powerful as Germans protesting with big signs saying “refugees welcome”.

I have also stayed illegally in Turkey for an year. And ligelly for several years. My parents immigrated ligely to Spain. While I have lots of family all over Europe.

So you’ve been an illegal immigrant…this is like when raj was an Indian white supremacist stuff.


Thats my passport. I hope you know what the black stamp means.

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You should probably not post stuff online like that. I’m not about to prove I’m from Kansas by giving you my drivers license picture.

But you said you stayed illegally in Turkey for a year.

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I’m not defending Biden really - ins made a series of absolute declarations about how Biden created these crises or amplified them with policy and it’s not accurate.

Personally I think that the situation is what Z just pointed out - potential immigrants think the US will be less hostile because the rhetoric isn’t Trump’s words, and Biden is of the blue party. I don’t think it’s very much that Biden invited them.

I do think that we will know the tale of the tape by his 3rd year. 2019 stoppages were almost double of 2018 and 2020 numbers, and you can see similar spikes going back through the years. That’s not politically correct but it is pretty much the only way to see whether this year’s numbers are an outlier or the start of a trend. We will need at least this year’s plus next year’s numbers.

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HeeEeEeeEyyYyyyyy!!! I take personal offence to this comment.

I’m not short, everyone else is tall.

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The black stamp is for when you cross out of a country where you have stayed illegally. It is a 5 year penalty, where you are not allowed to get back legally, unless you pay a fine.

Fact checked?

The same day, Biden called Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador to speak about immigration, where Biden spoke of reducing immigration from Mexico to the United States by targeting the root causes

Yes, you can barelly order anything by phone, but Biden is going to change immigration troubles by calling the Mexican president with his speaking abilities. I have a comedy script in my head about the talk with epic Biden phrases suck as “the thing”, “whatever” and “come on, man” oh and “why dont you just shut up”.

Just like Trump was going to get Mexico to pay for the Wall, only he didn’t bother to call Mexico beforehand.

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Mexico will pay for the wall. The military is going to stage a coup to put Trump back into power since the election was stolen. And that’s when he will solve health care and the national debt as well. He was just getting ready to knock all that out he just wanted to finish watching Hannitty and retweeting someone praising him.

I mean, they should…

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That’s the current state of the Republican party. If Trump can’t win we’ll cry fraud. If that doesn’t work we’ll invade the capital. If that doesn’t work the military should put him in power.

It’s not ideas or appealing to voters. It’s we get what we want or kill the opposition to get the king his crown back. It’s a shame we don’t need Dems only check to be Q anon crazy party.

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Political discourse within both parties is a bit of a clusterfuck at the moment.

On the right there seems to be this quasi rise in authoritarianism, anti intellectualism (as a vested agenda to promote misinformation and promote dubious/fraudulent policy) and decimation of constitutional values/free speech within the ranks of the party (speak out against Trump and you’re kicked to the curb, scorned and threatened).

Within the left you’ve got a lot of virtue signalling, pandering to race in effort to push through policies of which may have nothing to do with race and irritating appeals to purported “moral superiority”.

Both parties consist of corperate shills, rather how they go about pushing a given narrative steeped in self interest differs. The Republicans appear to push their bullshit in a more open/blatant way because… They can, they don’t need to be politically correct. It appears Trump could shit on a plate and (some) of his supporters would eat it up like it’s the most prestigious of caviar.

The wall was build with words only. Then Biden destroyed it saying illegal immigrants are welcome and removing policy Trump put.

Wanna talk about party separation. Lets talk about socialists been shown the middle finger in the current democratic party lol