Living In the Southern U.S.

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Racism in the south is definitely blown out of proportion compared to the north, as Joe Good said. Of course there are racists through out the south but I agree, I’ve heard some pretty nasty stuff up north.

We get a bad rap for slavery even though it ended hundreds of years before anyone today was born. [/quote]

Oh what a bunch of horseshit. Southern racism is a stereo type, nothing could be further from truth.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Racism in the south is definitely blown out of proportion compared to the north, as Joe Good said. Of course there are racists through out the south but I agree, I’ve heard some pretty nasty stuff up north.

We get a bad rap for slavery even though it ended hundreds of years before anyone today was born. [/quote]

Oh what a bunch of horseshit. Southern racism is a stereo type, nothing could be further from truth. [/quote]
It’s absolutely blown out of proportion, especially compared to other regions in the US. Never said it didn’t exist.

People are probably nicer down there, I can agree to that.

If you walked down the street in NJ talking to everyone you meet like people do down South, you’d have the cops after you pretty quickly because someone would think you were a lunatic.

Keep in mind that people are much more guarded and much harder in general here because you have to be - there’s many more people and it’s a far faster, much more cutthroat world.

The South moves too slow for me generally, and I tend to feel like I"m going to have a stroke when I’m putting in an order at a food place or whatever.

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]twinexperience wrote:

[quote]666Rich wrote:
I live in Pgh. I think people here are generally a pretty dour bunch, perhaps because of our weather. I find the Northeast fairly pretentious and reserved.

Charleston South Carolina has had the nicest people I have encountered throughout the US.

Plus, yall know how to eat.Biscuits and Gravy, real bbq, grits, fried green tomatoes, okra… i will gain 20+lbs when i move south. And correct me if I am wrong, but the attitude is not as hostile towards tobacco down there (for obvious reasons).[/quote]

My favorite parts of living in the Land of Cotton:

  1. Biscuits (the crap that you make with Biscuit is barely edible after you’ve lived in the carolinas)
  2. The most obvious - the winters are non-existent
  3. Vitually no taxes ( thank God I have don’t have kids in school)
  4. Little or no requirement to recycle ( srsly I cud show up with a dead body at the dump and they wouldn’t even blink)

My most hated parts:

  1. Forget about ethnicity. Say bye-bye to Little Italy and Chinatown. You are white, black or a landscaper.
  2. If you are Catholic, you might as well be from Mars
  3. Pizza? Ha! Get used to Papa Johns
  4. Nobody - and I mean nobody - looks good in searsucker.
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I am a Roman Catholic in Mississippi and doing just fine, actually a pretty large community of Catholics here.

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Same here Roman Catholic in GA and no problems. Actually we are the fastest growing religion in the south right now. I am pleased to see more and more black people becoming and attending the Catholic Church.

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Racism in the south is definitely blown out of proportion compared to the north, as Joe Good said. Of course there are racists through out the south but I agree, I’ve heard some pretty nasty stuff up north.

We get a bad rap for slavery even though it ended hundreds of years before anyone today was born. [/quote]

Oh what a bunch of horseshit. Southern racism is a stereo type, nothing could be further from truth. [/quote]
It’s absolutely blown out of proportion, especially compared to other regions in the US. Never said it didn’t exist. [/quote]

I think you miss understood or I typed it wrong, or I miss understoor your answer. I meant that ‘Southern Racism’ is a bunch of horse shit and nothing further from the truth.

[quote]Catnip wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]twinexperience wrote:

[quote]666Rich wrote:
I live in Pgh. I think people here are generally a pretty dour bunch, perhaps because of our weather. I find the Northeast fairly pretentious and reserved.

Charleston South Carolina has had the nicest people I have encountered throughout the US.

Plus, yall know how to eat.Biscuits and Gravy, real bbq, grits, fried green tomatoes, okra… i will gain 20+lbs when i move south. And correct me if I am wrong, but the attitude is not as hostile towards tobacco down there (for obvious reasons).[/quote]

My favorite parts of living in the Land of Cotton:

  1. Biscuits (the crap that you make with Biscuit is barely edible after you’ve lived in the carolinas)
  2. The most obvious - the winters are non-existent
  3. Vitually no taxes ( thank God I have don’t have kids in school)
  4. Little or no requirement to recycle ( srsly I cud show up with a dead body at the dump and they wouldn’t even blink)

My most hated parts:

  1. Forget about ethnicity. Say bye-bye to Little Italy and Chinatown. You are white, black or a landscaper.
  2. If you are Catholic, you might as well be from Mars
  3. Pizza? Ha! Get used to Papa Johns
  4. Nobody - and I mean nobody - looks good in searsucker.
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    searsucker suits are ridiculous for sure. Even the south has it’s own sub-cultures. This is a silly one.

For the grit fans, next time you eat them, mix in butter, shredded chedder cheese and hot sauce, specifically Tobasco or my fav, Sriracha (asian, but consists of chili’s, garlic and salt).

Best served with grilled or pan fried, bone in pork chops. Dice the meat when cooked and mix it in for best results.[/quote]

I love garlic cheese grits I make them in a saucepan rather than baking them so they’re a little soupy. So good.

HG - That grit combo sounds good too! [/quote]

I like my grits plain, maybe with a dash of pepper, but putting shit on them ruins it for me. I could eat grits by 5 gallon buckets. I fucking love grits.
And yeah, proper biscuits with gravy is stupid good. I could eat that shit til I pop. Not exactly bodybuilding cuisine, but damn it’s good.

[quote]Samir wrote:
Here are my impressions. I’ve seen a lot of the US. No real correlation, I found.

New York: Curt, rude, Type A, impersonal. Assholes abound.
Boston: Cooler then New York, but still a little cold. “Massholes” abound.
Chicago: Amazing
Salt Lake City: You’re not part of the club, we’re not talking to you.
Dallas/Houston: Exactly like Dynasty. Just kidding. Normal towns, I would say middle of the road between nice/rude.
Austin: Great town, amazing hospitable people. My 2nd favorite town in all America.
Vegas: No one in Vegas is from Vegas.
San Diego: Extremely chill. No rush. Good folks, girls are still calificial (superficial and from california). Probably my favorite town in USA.
LA: Traffic, rude, superficial, phony. Gross.
San Francisco: Pretentious f–ks. Good yuppy crowd though. People around CAL/Stanford seem much cooler.
Pittsburgh: No particular impression one way or another
Buffalo: Everyone asks themselves why they live in Buffalo
Providence: Ultimate snob town. How is Pauly D from here?
Miami: Let’s tan and party.
Orlando: This town has no particular flavor.
Cleveland: Been here six times. It could use a lucky break. Everyone looks sad.
Detroit: Fallen on HARD times, but people seem optimistic about the future.
Iowa in general: Amazing hospitable people.

Going to Baltimore in November to see my favorite team play my best bud’s favorite team on Thxgiving (I’m a 49ers fan, he’s a Ravens fan…). Will report back.
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Well, if your impression is anything like the ones for all the other major cities, it’ll be pretty miserable.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
People are probably nicer down there, I can agree to that.

If you walked down the street in NJ talking to everyone you meet like people do down South, you’d have the cops after you pretty quickly because someone would think you were a lunatic.

Keep in mind that people are much more guarded and much harder in general here because you have to be - there’s many more people and it’s a far faster, much more cutthroat world.

The South moves too slow for me generally, and I tend to feel like I"m going to have a stroke when I’m putting in an order at a food place or whatever.[/quote]

Atlanta doesn’t. Atlanta is ridiculously fast paced… You haven’t been in a traffic jam until you’ve been in an Atlanta traffic jam…People from LA feel sorry for us.
I live 25 miles from work, it takes me an hour and that is considered good. I think it sucks balls. That’s why have a 1350 watt stereo in the car, to take the edge off the drive…

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
People are probably nicer down there, I can agree to that.

If you walked down the street in NJ talking to everyone you meet like people do down South, you’d have the cops after you pretty quickly because someone would think you were a lunatic.

Keep in mind that people are much more guarded and much harder in general here because you have to be - there’s many more people and it’s a far faster, much more cutthroat world.

The South moves too slow for me generally, and I tend to feel like I"m going to have a stroke when I’m putting in an order at a food place or whatever.[/quote]

Atlanta doesn’t. Atlanta is ridiculously fast paced… You haven’t been in a traffic jam until you’ve been in an Atlanta traffic jam…People from LA feel sorry for us.
I live 25 miles from work, it takes me an hour and that is considered good. I think it sucks balls. That’s why have a 1350 watt stereo in the car, to take the edge off the drive…[/quote]

Oh I have no doubt the cities are like that. Cities are cities wherever they are.

I was just saying in general.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
People are probably nicer down there, I can agree to that.

If you walked down the street in NJ talking to everyone you meet like people do down South, you’d have the cops after you pretty quickly because someone would think you were a lunatic.

Keep in mind that people are much more guarded and much harder in general here because you have to be - there’s many more people and it’s a far faster, much more cutthroat world.

The South moves too slow for me generally, and I tend to feel like I"m going to have a stroke when I’m putting in an order at a food place or whatever.[/quote]

Atlanta doesn’t. Atlanta is ridiculously fast paced… You haven’t been in a traffic jam until you’ve been in an Atlanta traffic jam…People from LA feel sorry for us.
I live 25 miles from work, it takes me an hour and that is considered good. I think it sucks balls. That’s why have a 1350 watt stereo in the car, to take the edge off the drive…[/quote]
Cities are fast paced in general. Southern cities tend to be more polite than northern cities in my experience, the country in general is more polite than cities.

And yes, slower in many ways, north or south.

We’ve already had regional “hard” conversations but the “dirty south” is definitely not soft. Impolite and tough/street smart are not two peas from the same pod.

[quote]twinexperience wrote:

[quote]666Rich wrote:
I live in Pgh. I think people here are generally a pretty dour bunch, perhaps because of our weather. I find the Northeast fairly pretentious and reserved.

Charleston South Carolina has had the nicest people I have encountered throughout the US.

Plus, yall know how to eat.Biscuits and Gravy, real bbq, grits, fried green tomatoes, okra… i will gain 20+lbs when i move south. And correct me if I am wrong, but the attitude is not as hostile towards tobacco down there (for obvious reasons).[/quote]

My favorite parts of living in the Land of Cotton:

  1. Biscuits (the crap that you make with Biscuit is barely edible after you’ve lived in the carolinas)
  2. The most obvious - the winters are non-existent
  3. Vitually no taxes ( thank God I have don’t have kids in school)
  4. Little or no requirement to recycle ( srsly I cud show up with a dead body at the dump and they wouldn’t even blink)

My most hated parts:

  1. Forget about ethnicity. Say bye-bye to Little Italy and Chinatown. You are white, black or a landscaper.
  2. If you are Catholic, you might as well be from Mars
  3. Pizza? Ha! Get used to Papa Johns
  4. Nobody - and I mean nobody - looks good in searsucker.
    [/quote]

South Carolina is like little jewel in the south. It’s unique in it’s slow pace and all around good nature. I really like it. I have a friend who lives in Colombia, he ain’t moving. He loves it.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
People are probably nicer down there, I can agree to that.

If you walked down the street in NJ talking to everyone you meet like people do down South, you’d have the cops after you pretty quickly because someone would think you were a lunatic.

Keep in mind that people are much more guarded and much harder in general here because you have to be - there’s many more people and it’s a far faster, much more cutthroat world.

The South moves too slow for me generally, and I tend to feel like I"m going to have a stroke when I’m putting in an order at a food place or whatever.[/quote]

Atlanta doesn’t. Atlanta is ridiculously fast paced… You haven’t been in a traffic jam until you’ve been in an Atlanta traffic jam…People from LA feel sorry for us.
I live 25 miles from work, it takes me an hour and that is considered good. I think it sucks balls. That’s why have a 1350 watt stereo in the car, to take the edge off the drive…[/quote]

Oh I have no doubt the cities are like that. Cities are cities wherever they are.

I was just saying in general.
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Atlanta is a weird city. I mean the city itself. I have never seen a city so devoid of an identity or personality as Atlanta. If there isn’t an event, there is nothing to do, period. Well, unless you need crack or want to get robbed. Otherwise it’s a business city.
They keep trying to ‘liven’ it up. But everything they tryed get’s over ridden with crime and pretty much ends up dead in the water.
They’ve tried several times to resurrect Underground Atlanta, but the gangs take it over…
So then all we got is the Aquarium which is eh, I personally like the Chattanooga Aquarium better. The World of Coca-Cola which is uber gay, not to mention they fucking lie. There is no where in there that tells you that Coca-Cola used to contain cocaine nor do they tell you that’s where the name came from. Idiots. So if there’s not a concert, football, baseball, or basketball game and you don’t work or go to school down there, there is nothing to do.

Metro Atlanta is where everybody lives, but there’s nothing distinctive about it. I do like very much my little neck of the woods though. Good schools, nice area, everything is pretty close…

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]Samir wrote:
Here are my impressions. I’ve seen a lot of the US. No real correlation, I found.

New York: Curt, rude, Type A, impersonal. Assholes abound.
Boston: Cooler then New York, but still a little cold. “Massholes” abound.
Chicago: Amazing
Salt Lake City: You’re not part of the club, we’re not talking to you.
Dallas/Houston: Exactly like Dynasty. Just kidding. Normal towns, I would say middle of the road between nice/rude.
Austin: Great town, amazing hospitable people. My 2nd favorite town in all America.
Vegas: No one in Vegas is from Vegas.
San Diego: Extremely chill. No rush. Good folks, girls are still calificial (superficial and from california). Probably my favorite town in USA.
LA: Traffic, rude, superficial, phony. Gross.
San Francisco: Pretentious f–ks. Good yuppy crowd though. People around CAL/Stanford seem much cooler.
Pittsburgh: No particular impression one way or another
Buffalo: Everyone asks themselves why they live in Buffalo
Providence: Ultimate snob town. How is Pauly D from here?
Miami: Let’s tan and party.
Orlando: This town has no particular flavor.
Cleveland: Been here six times. It could use a lucky break. Everyone looks sad.
Detroit: Fallen on HARD times, but people seem optimistic about the future.
Iowa in general: Amazing hospitable people.

Going to Baltimore in November to see my favorite team play my best bud’s favorite team on Thxgiving (I’m a 49ers fan, he’s a Ravens fan…). Will report back.
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Well, if your impression is anything like the ones for all the other major cities, it’ll be pretty miserable.
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Good analysis. Of the cities on your list I have been to, you hit the nail on the head…I still love Las Vegas…That’s definitely one of my favorite cities in America.

[quote]twinexperience wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]twinexperience wrote:

[quote]666Rich wrote:
I live in Pgh. I think people here are generally a pretty dour bunch, perhaps because of our weather. I find the Northeast fairly pretentious and reserved.

Charleston South Carolina has had the nicest people I have encountered throughout the US.

Plus, yall know how to eat.Biscuits and Gravy, real bbq, grits, fried green tomatoes, okra… i will gain 20+lbs when i move south. And correct me if I am wrong, but the attitude is not as hostile towards tobacco down there (for obvious reasons).[/quote]

My favorite parts of living in the Land of Cotton:

  1. Biscuits (the crap that you make with Biscuit is barely edible after you’ve lived in the carolinas)
  2. The most obvious - the winters are non-existent
  3. Vitually no taxes ( thank God I have don’t have kids in school)
  4. Little or no requirement to recycle ( srsly I cud show up with a dead body at the dump and they wouldn’t even blink)

My most hated parts:

  1. Forget about ethnicity. Say bye-bye to Little Italy and Chinatown. You are white, black or a landscaper.
  2. If you are Catholic, you might as well be from Mars
  3. Pizza? Ha! Get used to Papa Johns
  4. Nobody - and I mean nobody - looks good in searsucker.
    [/quote]

I am a Roman Catholic in Mississippi and doing just fine, actually a pretty large community of Catholics here.

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Obviously we all stand corrected. Thank you.[/quote]

haha didnt mean that to try to contradict you, just offering that while yes, Catholics in the South used to be a minority, the Faith is growing.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]twinexperience wrote:

[quote]666Rich wrote:
I live in Pgh. I think people here are generally a pretty dour bunch, perhaps because of our weather. I find the Northeast fairly pretentious and reserved.

Charleston South Carolina has had the nicest people I have encountered throughout the US.

Plus, yall know how to eat.Biscuits and Gravy, real bbq, grits, fried green tomatoes, okra… i will gain 20+lbs when i move south. And correct me if I am wrong, but the attitude is not as hostile towards tobacco down there (for obvious reasons).[/quote]

My favorite parts of living in the Land of Cotton:

  1. Biscuits (the crap that you make with Biscuit is barely edible after you’ve lived in the carolinas)
  2. The most obvious - the winters are non-existent
  3. Vitually no taxes ( thank God I have don’t have kids in school)
  4. Little or no requirement to recycle ( srsly I cud show up with a dead body at the dump and they wouldn’t even blink)

My most hated parts:

  1. Forget about ethnicity. Say bye-bye to Little Italy and Chinatown. You are white, black or a landscaper.
  2. If you are Catholic, you might as well be from Mars
  3. Pizza? Ha! Get used to Papa Johns
  4. Nobody - and I mean nobody - looks good in searsucker.
    [/quote]

I am a Roman Catholic in Mississippi and doing just fine, actually a pretty large community of Catholics here.

[/quote]

Same here Roman Catholic in GA and no problems. Actually we are the fastest growing religion in the south right now. I am pleased to see more and more black people becoming and attending the Catholic Church.

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Oh damn…are we in agreement on something?

[quote]twinexperience wrote:

  1. Forget about ethnicity. Say bye-bye to Little Italy and Chinatown. You are white, black or a landscaper.
  2. If you are Catholic, you might as well be from Mars
    [/quote]

I guess. I am 1/2 Scott-Irish and 1/2 Mescalero Apache and grew up on the reservation because my white father was oilfield trash and disappeared.

Everyone is/was Roman Catholic (not to be confused with Anglican Catholic, Orthodox, and a couple other “catholics” down here).

[quote]pat wrote:
You haven’t been in a traffic jam until you’ve been in an Atlanta traffic jam…People from LA feel sorry for us. [/quote]

That, and the zombies everyone.

[quote]Samir wrote:

Chicago: Amazing

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I would agree with you. :stuck_out_tongue:

Honest though, on the spectrum of East-to-South of hospitality/politeness/etc, I find that Chicago-ans are basically in the middle. I like to see it as the ‘best of both worlds’. I’ve been all over the NE as well as the South (Florida, Carolina’s, Georgia, TX), and I really do find Chicago to be somewhere right in the middle.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
You haven’t been in a traffic jam until you’ve been in an Atlanta traffic jam…People from LA feel sorry for us. [/quote]

That, and the zombies everywhere.
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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

We’ve already had regional “hard” conversations but the “dirty south” is definitely not soft. Impolite and tough/street smart are not two peas from the same pod.[/quote]

Eh. I live about 15 minutes from NY. Everyone is soft compared to the people who live here in my eyes, but I don’t mean “not tough,” I mean more like “not cutthroat.”

People here do not fucking care about you if they don’t know you. Not at all.

Individual toughness is not based on the region one comes from.