You could draw up two ccs of tren and push it in your thigh as fast as possible if you can’t catch your breath for 5 minutes are so you stuff is legit lol. Don’t do that but it would tell the tale.
I’m starting to notice insomnia… but would that happen on high doses of test too? Because if this stuff is really just just I’d be on nearly 900mg a week according to my calculations.
For those interested in my experience I did end up getting real tren. Ended up going with ace. I know it’s real cuz tren cough is a bitch lol. So as far as my experience goes I’ve been on 280 mg a week for nearly 2 months running with 40 mg a day off Anavar and 500 mg test a week. Pinning the ace everyday.
Truthfully the strength gains are not what I expected. I expected more out of tren I actually think I got more strength gains when I ran 350 deca with the Anavar and test. Sides aren’t as bad as I’ve heard from others either though so I guess that’s good. I have no trouble sleeping whatsoever and don’t have night sweats in fact I seem to Dream more vividly though I do wake up tired even sheet sleeping for about 8 hours which is not normal for me.
I also noticed I am extremely irritable like even everyday tasks get me pissed off. Sex drive is through the roof like others have mentioned like almost to the point where it’s hard to focus on anything else.
Overall though I just feel lethargic and heavy on this stuff with very low motivation. I was going to run it for 3 months but actually considering cutting it short which is something I’ve never had the urge to do before. Some days I don’t even Wanna go to the gym which is very very rare for me.
I’ve heard the lethargic feeling and no motivation is actually very common on tren. Can anyone attest to that?
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I didn’t have the lethargy at all and motivation was good. Only sides I felt was some night sweating and cardio. Had the cough one time and it sucked. BP was a bit higher than i’d like toward the end. Not sure if this was the tren or the stress of a family member passing away. I felt the same way regarding cycle length. Was planning for 12 weeks but by 10 I was ready for it to end. Not sure if it was the frequent pinning (oed) or the hit to the cardio but just felt done. Pushed on two 12 weeks though. I actually prefer deca as well I think. Just started a test/deca/primo cycle yesterday.
Thanks for the update. I’ll have to keep this in mind the next few months as I begin to ponder my first tren cycle
How is the eye coming?
I am thinking my next will be Test / DHB or Test / EQ. I really like the idea of the former, but I hear PIP is just brutal. Probably throw in Tbol at the end of either.
Lol I have always known I was going to run tren (it was a matter of when, not if), I’ll definitely start small, like 150ish mg/wk. The eye is actually fully healed. I was cleared to lift 100% with no restrictions almost 2 weeks ago. For now I am running only my TRT (and I started that the day I got cleared) but I have another appointment in about 6 weeks with the eye doctor to make sure no damage has occurred since going 100% and with my TRT. I still haven’t 100% decided on tren for my next cycle though, it may be test/deca or test/deca/anadrol, but I’ll run the deca lower than I ran the NPP.
and based on the 2 comments previous to mine, I may not mess with tren any time soon since I loved nandrolone so much (minus the eye shit)
This should be awesome for strength and size. Perhaps better than just test / tren. The Anadrol will do a lot for strength.
The most impressive lifter I know is big on Anadrol. He likes the test, deca, drol stack. He has run tren too, but he is naturally lean, and I think he had a hard time keeping his weight on Tren (he was losing weight while already almost to lean for strength sports). It seems like this guy takes Drol for 2 weeks, and is DLing in the 800s at 6’ tall and 205 lbs.
The problem is I don’t need more size (or weight really, we can always use more lean mass and less fat though), I have no problem filling out the 231 class. I am definitely on the big side for the 231 guys. I’m 6’1" with a big frame and average lean mass (for a strength athlete) and have zero problems maintaining 245-250, and I feel like I am often hungry just to maintain this weight. I definitely need a recomp and NPP did that for me very well. for now I am just on TRT and I’m going to try to drop 5-6 lbs of fat over the next 2-3 months which is very doable
What happened To your eye? Deca caused an eye issue?
It’s all outlined in my “test C, NPP, and anavar” thread, but essentially I had a partial retina separation from pushing fluid between my eye and my retina (google “central serous retinopathy”). It was caused by a heavy valsalva maneuver, but exogenous testosterone changes the eye in such a way that it made it more likely to happen. Was it the test? the anavar? the NPP? all three? too much salt/water retention? too much fatigue? My guess is it was all of it combined to be the “perfect storm”, but I couldn’t get it to even start healing without coming off of everything that I was on. Even had to come off of my TRT.