Yes. I’ve heard ace is more harsh. I’ve read that “Tren cough” is something that happens after pinning, but my buddy had it non stop. The entire time he was on it he was hacking up his lungs. Would def be odd this day and age to be coughing non stop. Would bring attention.
It’s one fucker of a drug. He loved the results (which eventually went away since he didn’t maintain diet). But you have to ask yourself. Is this amazing drug worth it’s counterpart in god awful sides. Not to mention I’ve read it could POSSIBLY have long term side effects on your libido and ability to get an erection.
So my personal mind set is this. A little more muscle and less fat? Hmmm. Not if I’ll be coughing my ass off. Sweating holy hell. Have breathing and sexual issues etc etc. I’ll pass.
My experience has been crazy night sweats and even excessive sweating during the day.
Massive increase in libido, mood (patience/tolerance), strength and appetite.
First tren cycle was 400mg a week enanthate
Second cycle a year later was 200mg a week.
Sides weren’t as severe but definitely still there.
If your not already an asshole, you’ll be okay
Also, have a proper cycle support and pct in place and be patient with the pct. Use herbs and adaptogens like ashwghanda and theanine to help with your mood on cycle and some others with your pct.
Theanine and tyrosine are awesome.
As stated above. I’ve run simalar test/deca/anavar cycles to yours and had no issues. This is my first go with tren and running 100mg ace eod so around 350/week. Running mast P the same dossage/frquency. I’m a couple weeks in with no side effects accept a tiny bit of night sweating. Why would you want to run E and pin it every day? I belive alot of the side effects of tren are from the hormonal ups and downs. If your pinning that much why not run ace so you can adjust quickly if something isn’t right? From my experience so far I would have no problem recommending 300mg or a little more per week although I am no expert. Not sure 150-200 would give you what your looking for.
The reason I pin everyday is because it’s what I do with my test anyway. I found anything over like 150 a week with test split into 2 injections causes me ED for some reason. When I micro dose and pin everyday it completely eliminates that issue. I figure if I am pinning everyday already why not just pin the tren everyday as well.
To be honest pinning test everyday as opposed to 2x a week ive noticed seems to make me feel stronger too. I just find micro dosing seems to minimize side effects.
Hows your strength and everything feeling so far on the 350 a week? Notice anything yet?
Strength is starting to pick up. Feeling great overall. Looking forward to the coming weeks. My point about the tren is if you are pinning every day anyway go with a shorter ester in case it doesn’t Agee with you. That way it will clear faster if you feel like shit.
Well the enathate is all ive got at the moment. Idk through my research I have heard you tend to get less sides with the enanthate for whatever reason. I decided to up my dose though. I know from past experience I am someone that it actually seems to take more to get out of steroids.
For instance on 150mg of test a week my levels were only 419. I needed to boost it to 500 to even break 1k. Like someone else said if im gonna do this I might as well do it right.
You do get less sides from e then ace but there the same sides ace seems to be more severe. There both tren of course just different esters. Man I highly suggest ace around 300 a week to test the waters I’ve ran tren for the past ten years prob been on it a solid 4 of the past ten if not more. I know a lot about it and how to take it everybody is different but it can make you fucking crazy. You might laugh but it can break you down in tears and shake from anxiety wtf would you want to deal with that for two weeks ?
My suggestion would be 100 mg of test 250
to 300 mg of ace pin the ace everyday if you get along good for 4 weeks want to take more bump up 50mgs at the most. It’s nothing to fuck with I’ve had to drop a bunch of cycle cause it put me in a very bad place.
So I know some of you guys wanted a little log of my experience so about a week in… I decided to do 250mg a week. So far I feel an extremely strong sense of well being like how you feel when you start test but more intense and i do feel my temp slightly higher and maybe sweating a little more in the gym but nothing crazy yet. NO change in blood pressure or heart rate yet. I monitor both daily.
I know it’s probably too soon to feel any strength gains so what I think I feel is probably placebo because it’s very early. Nothing major in that department yet though anyway.
For those that have done tren before is this on par with what I should be feeling?
I’m a week or so ahead of you and strength and gym aggresion are def up. Hunger is through the roof. Had night sweats from a few days in to about 2 weeks then that subsided. What ester did tyou go with? Are you using any other compounds with it? I’ at 350/wk trenA and 350/wk mastP both pinned together eod. Also staying at TRT test dose of 180mg/wk pinned every 3d.
So I’ve been on for 25 days now. As I stated I decided to go with 250 mg a week. I haven’t noticed any sides yet. I’ve had some aggression here and there. Strength has seemed to go up a bit but not really what I expected. Being Enanthate though I guess it’s still early. My question is should I be feeling more? I will say I was expecting to feel more. For anyone that’s done E what do you think? I’m starting to wonder if the stuff is fake honestly. Kinda feels like when I up my test.
I would think you would see an increase in libido and erection quality/frequency unless you are young and already had high levels of test in your system. Also increases in acne and oily skin.
I get itchy nipples when blasting and I have had lumps form but nothing that I would classify as gyno.
Without telling us your source, can you say whether or not you bought this from a known source or did you order it online?
I do see the increase in libido but I also get that from upping my test. I don’t have any gyno symptoms or anything but I’m usually good about that. I’ve never gotten Gyno or acne on any of my cycles.
The person I got it from is known to have a good reputation. Everything I’ve gotten from them in the past has been good.