[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Al, I have easily and concisely refuted a few of your arguments.[/quote]
Right. Only, you haven’t. Because if you had, indeed, tried to do such a thing, we would be arguing about it right now. I’m pretty sure I tied up all the loose ends on this thread. But if you still hold the belief that any of my arguments were refuted, link me to said refutations and I’ll take a look at them.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I have chosen not to shred your belief system for three main reasons.
Too many people here on the forum are already trashing you.[/quote]
In other words, you are only capable of producing trash. There’s a great disparity between refuting someone and trashing them, but obviously you are incapable of the former. Thanks for making that crystal clear.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
3. I actually feel sorry for you. You are a terribly confused kid. You are perceptive enough to recognize the bullshit you see in life, but you are not mature enough to handle it, so you get angry. You appear to be rejecting society, family and everything else.[/quote]
Please illustrate, using specifics, exactly what I am “confused” about. One example will suffice.
Please do the same for my supposed “anger”. It appears that you moronically link my rejection of society, family, and other institutions of ignorance to anger. Guess what, honey: that link isn’t carved in stone - you have to prove or it simply doesn’t exist.
The fact that I have to hold your hand and lead you through elementary principles of debate says a lot about the rationality of your arguments. I really, really doubt that you have refuted any argument of mine. In your head, perhaps.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Al, as I said you have my sympathy.
Best of luck with your problems, whatever they may be.[/quote]
I’ve witnessed a lot of mind boggling ignorance in my time, but I can’t fathom the thought of anyone writing something like that in earnest. My guess is that you’re playing the “I think I can get him angry by acting like a retard” game. I’ve seen it many times before. The players never seem to realize that their opponents’ “anger” is only a figment of their imagination [you can’t really guess another persons emotions over the net], and they also fail to grasp that acting retarded does not a winner make. The best you can hope for is a stalemate, if you happen to be retarded already. Are you playing for a stalemate, Zap Branigan?
Let’s try this again:
You made several assertions about me with less-than-stellar evidence to back them up (read: none). Can you back them up, or are you so full of hot air that you should be floating somewhere over Kansas?
[quote]Al Shades wrote:
Please illustrate, using specifics, exactly what I am “confused” about. One example will suffice.
Please do the same for my supposed “anger”. It appears that you moronically link my rejection of society, family, and other institutions of ignorance to anger. Guess what, honey: that link isn’t carved in stone - you have to prove or it simply doesn’t exist.[/quote]
[quote]Al Shades wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Al, as I said you have my sympathy.
Best of luck with your problems, whatever they may be.
I’ve witnessed a lot of mind boggling ignorance in my time, but I can’t fathom the thought of anyone writing something like that in earnest. My guess is that you’re playing the “I think I can get him angry by acting like a retard” game.[/quote]
Sorry princess, but the fact that Zap has compassion for you doesn’t make him a retard. The fact that you draw a line connecting the two just proves your anger issues really are there. You are like a lost and confused mongrel who snaps at someone offering him food. THAT is why Zap feels sorry for you. So do I. The encouraging thing in all of this is the fact that you are young, and there is plenty of time (hopefully) for you to do some soul-searching.
Too many people here on the forum are already trashing you.
In other words, you are only capable of producing trash. There’s a great disparity between refuting someone and trashing them, but obviously you are incapable of the former. Thanks for making that crystal clear.
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no further evaluation of the word “trashing” was needed.
trashing = domintated by many (in this instance)
this is elementary slang.
frequently i see you take a meaning and put it in a context that was not the desired message so that you may refute, discount, or answer it. see example above.
[quote]Al Shades wrote:
Joe Weider wrote:
what’s the definition of “substantial argument”?
Maybe you can help me define it. Please link me to the first substantial argument you see presented on this thread.
[/quote]
no, I was serious, don’t cop out.
I was hoping you would deign to provide a list of sorts of what constituted a substantial arguement. Because it seem to me like–to you–it’s a moving target. If you don’t like what someone says you accuse them of making a stupid arguement. I want you to provide some ground rules of techniques and tactics you’ll recognize–sort of leveling the playing field.
Does that make sense?
[quote]Joe Weider wrote:
no, I was serious, don’t cop out.
I was hoping you would deign to provide a list of sorts of what constituted a substantial arguement. Because it seem to me like–to you–it’s a moving target. If you don’t like what someone says you accuse them of making a stupid arguement. I want you to provide some ground rules of techniques and tactics you’ll recognize–sort of leveling the playing field.
Does that make sense?[/quote]
You think that I wasn’t being serious as well? It’s much easier to describe something using specific examples. For an example of a substantial argument, you can look at any one of my replies. Is it so hard for you to come up with an example of your own culled from this thread?
[quote]Al Shades wrote:
Joe Weider wrote:
no, I was serious, don’t cop out.
I was hoping you would deign to provide a list of sorts of what constituted a substantial arguement. Because it seem to me like–to you–it’s a moving target. If you don’t like what someone says you accuse them of making a stupid arguement. I want you to provide some ground rules of techniques and tactics you’ll recognize–sort of leveling the playing field.
Does that make sense?
You think that I wasn’t being serious as well? It’s much easier to describe something using specific examples. For an example of a substantial argument, you can look at any one of my replies. Is it so hard for you to come up with an example of your own culled from this thread?[/quote]
But Al…first, I haven’t made any arguments on the thread. I’ve made pithy and insightful comments but no arguments.
And I don’t think I said you weren’t serious, however, I want to know what you think is a good argument.
I’m not going to waste my time arguing with you only to have you say–as you have to others–“well, that’s not a proper argument, you’re a retard”.
Okay?
I’m not going to bother explaining the merits of a “good argument” because that criteria falls way beyond the framework of anything that has ever been or ever will be produced by this board (with the exception of my own writings). I’ll tell you what an argument is, in itself, however:
A series of claims made to advance a certain notion.
In the context of a reply, or counter-argument, it is such a response which addresses the salient assertions of its target and, in so doing, arrives at a conclusion which differs from that of said target.
Most of the responses to my posts on this thread don’t even qualify as counter-arguments - nevermind substantial ones - because they do absolutely nothing to address the salient points of their targets.
Tossing one liners about pots and kettles, raising the topics of age and experience level, and facetiously claiming “pity” in order to avoid the subject of debate are all perfect examples of this type of ignorance.
Your failure to see any of this - the patently obvious - is pathetic beyond the extent of words. I can only imagine what sort of twisted mental asylum some of - no, all of - you creatures live in. Writing the above made me feel like a 1st grade teacher in a school for the mentally retarded. Only, I don’t get paid for this shit - I do it for entertainment.
At a school for the mentally retarded, you would be beaten until you shut up. That is, to death.
But I digress. I can’t speak for those who jumped straight to insulting you out of incredulity at your false statements, but plenty of people here have advanced SUCCESSFUL counter-arguments to what you’ve said. So they’re doing fine and are living in the mental asylum of real life. In fact so are the “early insulters” because they read and understood those people’s arguements. Faced with them, on the other hand, you proceeded to become guilty of everything in your last post. And then you posted pictures of your less-than-stellar physique.
Wait, I don’t know why I am using this much courtesy. Let me refer to my last post here.
YOU ARE TRASH! TRASH!!!
Life will discard the carrion of your mind, body, and soul into history, an incinerator comprised of and concerned only with men who at least funcitonally understand and operate on reality.
Put another way, my girlfriend asked me why I spend so much time on the forums torching you. The words I didn’t come up with at the time are that your presence here is like a dead rat superglued to the carpet of my room–of course I’m going to damn near compulsively try to remove it from my sight. Eventually, she and I will both benefit.
So yeah. Your last post show just how big of a gilded baboon turd you are. Puh-LEEZE consider your fragile ego immolated and go home. I’ll sacrifice a ram the minute it happens.
Little Allerious “I think I’m a bodybuilder because I have a gym membership” Shades:
You need to be removed.
From this site, from society, and from the overall breeding population.
Not that there’s any real chance we’ll have to worry about that.
As some other people with more clinical backgrounds than I have observed–and for some reason been censored for, although I cannot understand why, since your own bullshit seems to flow with no bounds–you seem to be a young man with deep seated problems. Probably a real confusion about sexual identity chief among them.
Go way and try to grow up. In another time you’d have been removed already.
but no arguments.