[quote]Edevus wrote:
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Right. So you’re just a very powerful man and the rest of us, just mere mortals.
It’s very nice that you bring fighting into the comparison, since it just brings us closer. By any chance, isn’t the objective of fighting competitions to beat up the other guy?
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Missing the point. If you play sports where physical injury is either the goal or very common, you’ll learn that the pain the players in soccer portray is fake or exaggerated.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
He was trying to adress that the sport has alot of injury and pain. I’m stating that it does not, trying to provide examples showing that it is not, compared to other sports.
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Mate the injury rate for football is incredibly high. Particularly on a recreational level.
The constant turning and change of direction is a recipe for disaster with regards to knees and ankles.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
Missing the point. If you play sports where physical injury is either the goal or very common, you’ll learn that the pain the players in soccer portray is fake or exaggerated.[/quote]
It’s neither fake or exaggerated, it’s at the level it should be.
The target of fighting is to KO the opponent, so a much higher amount of pain tolerance is required. You’re as well always aware of the opponent and you’re trained to suffer pain and damage.
In rugby, you’re trained to clash, hold, push, grab, etc. It’s part of the game.
In soccer there’s nothing like this. It’s better to avoid contact.
[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
He was trying to adress that the sport has alot of injury and pain. I’m stating that it does not, trying to provide examples showing that it is not, compared to other sports.
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Mate the injury rate for football is incredibly high. Particularly on a recreational level.
The constant turning and change of direction is a recipe for disaster with regards to knees and ankles.
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I agreed to this in the post I edited (after you quoted it). As I said I played the sport and the insane amount of fast paced running and turning involved does tax the joints heavily, which I experienced firsthand.
But that wasn’t the point of the post.
I laugh at the expense of you uneducated americans.
You share the same psych as the average bogan(redneck) australian. Brain washed by your media.
Pity the fool.
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[quote]Edevus wrote:
You’re as well always aware of the opponent and you’re trained to suffer pain and damage.
In rugby, you’re trained to clash, hold, push, grab, etc. It’s part of the game.
In soccer there’s nothing like this. It’s better to avoid contact.
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Nothing like this? Tackles happen all the time. It’s very much part of the game. You know that the risk of being tackled is there (at least 1 guy chasing after the ball willing to take your ankle with it), this means you can anticipate and act on this risk.
I like watching high school guys play soccer. They still tackle and fall hard. And they get up and don’t bitch about it.
But the pro players are freaking wimps on the field. Everything to get a penalty shot or to get the other guy a red card. This is why everyone hates soccer. That and 90 minutes of running without much goals.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
This is why everyone hates soccer.
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Yeah that’s right
Everyone hates the worlds most POPULAR sport.
Christ on a bike!
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Funny pictures aside, we all know soccer is not the phsyical, full contact, “manly” sport it’s being made out to be in light of others.
Soccer is above golf, ties basketball and that is truth. Though golf is more fun.[/quote]
You said it yourself. Soccer is not a full contact sport, the only thing that I’m trying to prove is that it is NOT a girly/bitchy sport at all. Also, comparing it to golf is going full retarded.
I really don’t understand how people talk all this shit when they have never played the sport at a mid to high level in their life.
The OP was asking a question that had to do with Soccer and then you and few others came in with the misinformation that Soccer is soft. Yes, there are other sports that are full contact and obviously much rougher, other than that you’re wrong.
Nope, soccer is soft.
I’ve played football and rugby before and both are brutal. There are some divers in the UK but in the lower leagues football is brutal stuff. Not as intense as rugby, but rugby is built around contact. I don’t really know what some of you are moaning about. Just because Christiano Ronaldo cheats to get his way. Are you saying cheating occurs in no other sport and you wouldn’t consider it when literally millions is won or lost on the result. I’m not condoning it, but diving is a result of the insane monetary rewards football can bring.
But I prefer rugby more. Nothing like mashing the cocky scrum half that’s been pissing me off all afternoon.
[quote]Edevus wrote:
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[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
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It’s not real football though. Semantics.[/quote]
True but it’s still the feminisation and more embarrassingly, the dumbing down of a sport.
Wouldn’t get that with football. It’s taken far too seriously for that to happen.
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Soccer is inheritantly dumb and feminine though.[/quote]
You’re past the “funny” and you’re going into retarded mode now.
AC said this :
There’s one thing that people who have never played soccer don’t understand. AC, this is partially for you. The thing is, when you get kicked in the foot, it hurts a lot. That pain may last just few seconds or a minute, but I can tell you, because I’ve suffered it many times, that you really feel something’s broken if a guy has tackled your support leg (left for me) when you were shooting or something like that.
[/quote]Dude, I played rugby for ten years. You act like no one ever gave me a cheap shot before! LOL The difference is that I didn’t fall down crying like a little bitch. Instead I yelled, “99 number 4!” which let all of my team mates know that number 4 (or whoever the offending player’s number was) needed to be taught a lesson in sportsmanship.
It’s not the ACTUAL cheap shots I am mocking. I fully agree that you can get legitimately hurt playing soccer. I also would prefer, if I had a choice, not ever to be slide-tackled - call me a pussy, but that doesn’t seem like fun. That’s just me. BUUUUTTT, what I AM making fun of is the OBVIOUS faking and crying over slight brushes. THAT’S what we are talking about. I certainly would not call someone a pussy if he went down cuz someone LEGITIMATELY cleated him in the leg or Achilles tendon - I’ve had it done to me and it FUCKING HURTS! But I’ll call someone a pussy every time when they fall down frantically writhing and grabbing themselves because someone’s hand incidentally passed within six inches of their face. When I was an electrician, I saw a guy cut hid thumb off with a band saw, and HE didn’t fall down crying like a soccer player who got nudged. THAT’S what I’m talking about.
I’ll preface this by saying I’ve played rugby, football, and soccer. All three are great in my eyes. For all the shit that soccer is getting and calling “American” sports tough, how the hell is basketball getting a free pass in all of this. If there is one sport where players dive more than in soccer, it is the fairies in the NBA.
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I’ll preface this by saying I’ve played rugby, football, and soccer. All three are great in my eyes. For all the shit that soccer is getting and calling “American” sports tough, how the hell is basketball getting a free pass in all of this. If there is one sport where players dive more than in soccer, it is the fairies in the NBA.[/quote]
This. I have played all 3 myself(rugby on a rec level, football in college, and soccer in high school and just rec in college). Soccer is extremely draining conditionally and I will never be able to take that amount of running around. No other sport even comes close to that type of abuse(not counting marathons). Rugby was fun as shit to play. Seems to be more of a dirty game than football(punching, kick in the balls when noones looking, etc). I think this sport probably causes the most head injuries. I doubt 60% or more of those in the NFL could endure rugby too long.
Soccer doesnt come close to the gayness of the NBA. Nuff said.
[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
I’ve played soccer. I’ve had the shinguards broken. I’ve been tackled and kicked and cheap shot many times. It didn’t hurt.
I’ve done kickboxing and muay thai and I’ve trained with prize fighter coaches. Go have a floating rib broken and catch body shots aimed at that specific rib for another minute. That’s fucking pain. Get kicked and punched 'till one eye is shut from the swelling, nose clogged with blood and a “support leg” that’s entirely blue from the hip to the knee, that’s fucking pain.
A few tackles? You can’t play the “true pain” card in soccer. If you play that card then you’ve simply never experienced true pain.
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God almighty.
Now we’re bringing thai boxing into it.
What’s next?
Wheelchair rugby?
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Wheelchair rugby is fucking intense.
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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
It’s not the ACTUAL cheap shots I am mocking. I fully agree that you can get legitimately hurt playing soccer. I also would prefer, if I had a choice, not ever to be slide-tackled - call me a pussy, but that doesn’t seem like fun. That’s just me. BUUUUTTT, what I AM making fun of is the OBVIOUS faking and crying over slight brushes. THAT’S what we are talking about. I certainly would not call someone a pussy if he went down cuz someone LEGITIMATELY cleated him in the leg or Achilles tendon - I’ve had it done to me and it FUCKING HURTS! But I’ll call someone a pussy every time when they fall down frantically writhing and grabbing themselves because someone’s hand incidentally passed within six inches of their face. When I was an electrician, I saw a guy cut hid thumb off with a band saw, and HE didn’t fall down crying like a soccer player who got nudged. THAT’S what I’m talking about.
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Yeah, but there’s three things to keep in mind :
It doesn’t happen that often. You can watch a full game and never see it happen.
When sprinting, especially when controlling the ball, any little contact will kill your balance and bring you to the floor. I’ve seen people accusing a guy for diving because a little pull from his shirt brought him to the floor, but it does happen.
There’s something that I don’t really like, but it works like this : If you get hit hard, but you fight to stay on your feet and don’t fall, the other guy would never get a card…but if you roll on the floor, scream a bit, etc. then the other guy will get a card.
Why is this? Well, Laws of Association Soccer talk about the severity of the foul and the booking. The referee can have an idea of how severe it was, but if you don’t fall or anything, the referee will think that nothing happened.
I really don’t like cheating or diving, but it’s not as often as one may think. That’s just propaganda from people who dislike the sport. Watch few full Premier League games and judge by yourself.
I get very annoyed when people say “Look, he’s rolling all over the floor in pain. Such a diver” because I remember having this happening to me many times.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
[quote]Edevus wrote:
You’re as well always aware of the opponent and you’re trained to suffer pain and damage.
In rugby, you’re trained to clash, hold, push, grab, etc. It’s part of the game.
In soccer there’s nothing like this. It’s better to avoid contact.
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Nothing like this? Tackles happen all the time. It’s very much part of the game. You know that the risk of being tackled is there (at least 1 guy chasing after the ball willing to take your ankle with it), this means you can anticipate and act on this risk.
I like watching high school guys play soccer. They still tackle and fall hard. And they get up and don’t bitch about it.
But the pro players are freaking wimps on the field. Everything to get a penalty shot or to get the other guy a red card. This is why everyone hates soccer. That and 90 minutes of running without much goals.
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You still don’t train for pain tolerance. Your last paragraph is idiotic to no end. Watch a Stoke City-Newcastle and tell me again.
You know, running without goals is one of the things that makes this game the best…and it’s that ANYTHING can change the course of the game. In how many sports the team that is playing much better may lose?
Also yeah, everybody hates the sport, that’s why the World Cup is more popular than the Olympic Games.
I think at the professional level of almost all sport you see a bit of pussification. Look at the way quarterbacks are treated in the NFL. Also guys like Harrison get fined for looking at a guy wrong almost.
Now I will say I dont like soccer, and Ill even throw in a disdain for foppish euros ;
however soccer games I’ve seen between teams of rec level latin american guys are often like highly mobile streetfights with plenty of injuries and blood with the added nonus of a lot of those guys going to a hard physical job within a few hours.
The money and relative importance of a win instead of competition bring out the acting in every sport. Selling taking a charge youd never do outside of an organized game, in fact pickup games of basketball can be very violent something youd never see in the nba without constant crying to the refs.
Hell look at all the talk about tsu trash talking and how terrible some think it is. Maybe every sport is becoming more wimpy.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
BUUUUTTT, what I AM making fun of is the OBVIOUS faking and crying over slight brushes. THAT’S what we are talking about. I certainly would not call someone a pussy if he went down cuz someone LEGITIMATELY cleated him in the leg or Achilles tendon - I’ve had it done to me and it FUCKING HURTS! But I’ll call someone a pussy every time when they fall down frantically writhing and grabbing themselves because someone’s hand incidentally passed within six inches of their face. When I was an electrician, I saw a guy cut hid thumb off with a band saw, and HE didn’t fall down crying like a soccer player who got nudged. THAT’S what I’m talking about.
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I’m sure there are many soccer players out there, such as myself, who fully agree with you on this. That is exactly why I can’t stand to watch professional soccer. Also, anyone who tried faking some shit against me would before long really find themselves with something to cry about!
That aside, I don’t know why some of you guys are criticizing what is essentially a non-contact sport for being non-contact.